I really like keiko and mada and it would be cool for them to win trophies
but if they win more people will genuinely start believing that Ethan is the goat
I don't think I can handle that
I really like keiko and mada and it would be cool for them to win trophies
but if they win more people will genuinely start believing that Ethan is the goat
I don't think I can handle that
catNmouse [#2]Agreed
I thought it was bad enough when forkbacon started getting snuck into the goat conversation
never been the best player (or even close to) on his team so dw he wont ever be the goat.
will eventually dethrone boaster for best IGL tho
I root against them simply because their pearl comp boils my blood.
Listen to this:
All of this for their post plant.
themaniel [#4]I thought it was bad enough when forkbacon started getting snuck into the goat conversation
i mean i think its aspas currently but if you go by throphies ethan has to be up there especially with aspas current decline in form
mondely [#8]I root against them simply because their pearl comp boils my blood.
Listen to this:
- killjoy mollies
- sova shockdarts
- astra suck
- tejo missiles
- brawk odin spam
All of this for their post plant.
If you think that’s bad then imagine what it was like in the prime tejo meta
playing only 5 internationals in 16 events is crazy ... while chronicle has made 6 finals
people just be hating ethan bro
like you don’t gotta think he’s a mechanical god but you can’t deny he plays good valorant
s0pp_fanboy1 [#14]I honestly don't understand the Ethan hate, explain further.
hes individually not even remotely close to being the goat, but nrg fans keep pushing this false narrative for no reason just because he got carried 2 times, being the worst on his team by far both times
catNmouse [#13]If you think that’s bad then imagine what it was like in the prime tejo meta
There was no odin spam in prime tejo meta
s0pp_fanboy1 [#14]I honestly don't understand the Ethan hate, explain further.
It's not hate
I just can't watch him play and think "that's the greatest player to ever touch this game"
He deserves to be top 10 minimum for his achievements but no where near goat
see thats the problem when people say goats should me measured by achievements. yay and demon1 have each one title forever ago and both have more cultural impact than both ethan and chronicle
themaniel [#20]It's not hate
I just can't watch him play and think "that's the greatest player to ever touch this game"
He deserves to be top 10 minimum for his achievements but no where near goat
As much as I love NRG, and Ethan is the ONLY 2x Champs Winner. I think his name breaks the top 10 OAT
However, I think he is Top 3 best Initiators OAT
shrike- [#16]people just be hating ethan bro
like you don’t gotta think he’s a mechanical god but you can’t deny he plays good valorant
He is good
In the same way that forkbacon is good
Just not goat
lyssss [#17]hes individually not even remotely close to being the goat, but nrg fans keep pushing this false narrative for no reason just because he got carried 2 times, being the worst on his team by far both times
you can NEVER get carried into winning a champion trophy, but i'll fall for your bait and level with you
to do it twice with 4 different players is lowkey insane, i'll somewhat understand if he got carried twice by the same roaster
foythvlr [#21]see thats the problem when people say goats should me measured by achievements. yay and demon1 have each one title forever ago and both have more cultural impact than both ethan and chronicle
Yeah like s1mple was the goat of CS for a while and didn't he only win 1 major?
Unless I have my CS history wrong
s0pp_fanboy1 [#24]you can NEVER get carried into winning a champion trophy, but i'll fall for your bait and level with you
to do it twice with 4 different players is lowkey insane, i'll somewhat understand if he got carried twice by the same roaster
Kiles
mondely [#8]I root against them simply because their pearl comp boils my blood.
Listen to this:
- killjoy mollies
- sova shockdarts
- astra suck
- tejo missiles
- brawk odin spam
All of this for their post plant.
guess what you're about to watch
s0pp_fanboy1 [#24]you can NEVER get carried into winning a champion trophy, but i'll fall for your bait and level with you
to do it twice with 4 different players is lowkey insane, i'll somewhat understand if he got carried twice by the same roaster
ethan is the ultimate proof that u can get carried, even more than once
jawn [#27]guess what you're about to watch
Now u people will understand my hate
x_knowitall39_x [#6]never been the best player (or even close to) on his team so dw he wont ever be the goat.
will eventually dethrone boaster for best IGL tho
I think he has a long way to go when it comes to becoming greatest IGL oat
shrike- [#16]people just be hating ethan bro
like you don’t gotta think he’s a mechanical god but you can’t deny he plays good valorant
ong my goat, they don't know Ethan's greatness
s0pp_fanboy1 [#24]you can NEVER get carried into winning a champion trophy, but i'll fall for your bait and level with you
to do it twice with 4 different players is lowkey insane, i'll somewhat understand if he got carried twice by the same roaster
to find a way to be the worst player in 2 different rosters is truly impressive icl
shrike- [#26]Kiles
just want to say that it's hard to compare 2021 champs with 2025 champs, but being carried to a champs trophy is almost impossible
espeon [#33]just want to say that it's hard to compare 2021 champs with 2025 champs, but being carried to a champs trophy is almost impossible
True but kiles nearly did lose them a trophy
not even comparable to ethan who pretty much singlehandedly won it for NRG
themaniel [#25]Yeah like s1mple was the goat of CS for a while and didn't he only win 1 major?
Unless I have my CS history wrong
I dont know about the achivements but i do know a lot of people called him GOAT for a while lol
lyssss [#28]ethan is the ultimate proof that u can get carried, even more than once
Nah he owned Fnatic on Sunset
shrike- [#34]True but kiles nearly did lose them a trophy
not even comparable to ethan who pretty much singlehandedly won it for NRG
yes i agree, kiles was awful L0L
ethan is genuinely an amazing support player and has become a top igl, what everyone says is all bait
Araise [#11]i mean i think its aspas currently but if you go by throphies ethan has to be up there especially with aspas current decline in form
aspas has a singular trophy and it was from pre-franchising with a pancada carry... hes never been the goat
Germy [#38]aspas has a singular trophy and it was from pre-franchising with a pancada carry... hes never been the goat
hes put up the best stats every season either you rank players by trophy count or by their performance statistically
Araise [#39]hes put up the best stats every season either you rank players by trophy count or by their performance statistically
Or Both, Like Derke, Chron and Alfa :P
mondely [#8]I root against them simply because their pearl comp boils my blood.
Listen to this:
- killjoy mollies
- sova shockdarts
- astra suck
- tejo missiles
- brawk odin spam
All of this for their post plant.
NRG love playing post plant and I hate it so much. I always hated watching their pearl and abyss because of that
dimmed [#42]NRG love playing post plant and I hate it so much. I always hated watching their pearl and abyss because of that
Yeh thank god they lost. Would hate to watch cancer post plant win them the game
P100P [#40]Or Both, Like Derke, Chron and Alfa :P
none of them have shown consistency like aspas and lock in is like ewc tbf
Araise [#44]none of them have shown consistency like aspas and lock in is like ewc tbf
When was Derke not consistent? He was always good most of the year, Also one of the best player at Internationals. Derke >> Aspas at Internationals, Aspas >> Derke at regionals. Chron is good with multiple roles and teams, Alfa too.