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seven_glazer [#4]I expected el diablo
I actually wonder how the public would react but I want my boy as far away from SEN as possible them fans are volatile as fuck.
Prob the same amount of hate tbh
Banr [#6]I actually wonder how the public would react but I want my boy as far away from SEN as possible them fans are volatile as fuck.
Prob the same amount of hate tbh
Reduxx chamber diffs him nowdays ngl
Goodluck to him he has an insane amount of pressure but atleast he has some insane teammates around him to make it work.
Not many T2 players get to enter a pretty good team first appearance some of them are in the slums of EG.
MrBlooBloom [#7]Reduxx chamber diffs him nowdays ngl
And then we wake up yay still clears anyone in NA with chamber and he did on it EG not like babybay on G2 a insane team or Cryo on a good team like 100T.
Banr [#8]Goodluck to him he has an insane amount of pressure but atleast he has some insane teammates around him to make it work.
Not many T2 players get to enter a pretty good team first appearance some of them are in the slums of EG.
son eg is looking more promising then ever rn
if dgzin is there i have hope
Banr [#10]And then we wake up yay still clears anyone in NA with chamber and he did on it EG not like babybay on G2 a insane team or Cryo on a good team like 100T.
Nah cryo is better
NoobGamer12354 [#12]son eg is looking more promising then ever rn
if dgzin is there i have hope
Brother I use to support EG and they have never looked promising even the 2023 roster didn't look promising EG got mega hate for dropping Bcj for Demon1 until they went on the run.
I will admit they usually do better than expected like the 2025 roster being 2 rounds off going to an international until they threw but point is if anyone in T2 had a choice your picking SEN over EG in every universe.
Dgzin is one of their best hopes that is true
Banr [#10]And then we wake up yay still clears anyone in NA with chamber and he did on it EG not like babybay on G2 a insane team or Cryo on a good team like 100T.
we must not have watched the same games last year
The guy has PTSDs of chamber anyway, he literally doesn't wanna play it
catNmouse [#13]Nah cryo is better
Maybe your lost so ill help we're talking about chamber.
That series you posted yay was on KJ one of the worst fragging agents while Cryo is on Chamber and then the other map yay top frags as cypher while Cryo played iso and yay beat him 5-3.
I get your point but stats won't prove shit if we wanna use stats babybay diffed Cryo on chamber and then yay diffed Babybay so we're going in a circle.
Banr [#20]Maybe your lost so ill help we're talking about chamber.
That series you posted yay was on KJ one of the worst fragging agents while Cryo is on Chamber and then the other map yay top frags as cypher while Cryo played iso and yay beat him 5-3.
I get your point but stats won't prove shit if we wanna use stats babybay diffed Cryo on chamber and then yay diffed Babybay so we're going in a circle.
chamber v chamber, massive first kill differential. there is no circle. yay was THE best chamber in NA in 2022 but he’s been overtaken in the franchising era unfortunately
MrBlooBloom [#16]we must not have watched the same games last year
The guy has PTSDs of chamber anyway, he literally doesn't wanna play it
I mean depends on your point of view he gave every player of 2022 PTSD for the entire year and then proceeded to come back and still shit on top players with it.
I agree he doesn't wanna play it but that's because of VLR kids crying when he tries to learn new agents and doesn't carry and then gets a "WHY ISN'T YAY ON CHAMBER" and then teams crumble and force him back on chamber just for more VLR kids to cry he's a one trick lmao some players can't win
Banr [#8]Goodluck to him he has an insane amount of pressure but atleast he has some insane teammates around him to make it work.
Not many T2 players get to enter a pretty good team first appearance some of them are in the slums of EG.
I was rating eg top 5 before kickoff but after their performance i lost hope. All of their players are very good, yet they still manage to lose somehow
catNmouse [#21]chamber v chamber, massive first kill differential. there is no circle. yay was THE best chamber in NA in 2022 but he’s been overtaken in the franchising era unfortunately
Fantastic you found a map where cryo did good against yay so your point must be valid.
Let's agree to disagree before you hit your 30k post milestone discussing how you think cryo is better than yay.
While we do that we can agree babybay clears cryo because Babybay killed him more.
And based on the same logic Yay is better than babybay because yay killed him more.
Banr [#24]Fantastic you found a map where cryo did good against yay so your point must be valid.
Let's agree to disagree before you hit your 30k post milestone discussing how you think cryo is better than yay.
While we do that we can agree babybay clears cryo because Babybay killed him more.
And based on the same logic Yay is better than babybay because yay killed him more.
Cryo has been the best chamber (post-nerf) in NA since franchising, not even leaf who’s had some great performances is better than him. Yay has been above average at best with the agent and was not able to output the same impact on a consistent basis unlike Cryo.
Also where does Babybay fall into this? He’s a good player that performs at his best on Chamber, there’s nothing wrong with considering him as one of the best chambers if that’s the agent he literally excels on. I don’t really get why you have to use teammates as an resson to bring down Cryo or Babybay when they’re just naturally impactful on the agent
catNmouse [#26]Cryo has been the best chamber (post-nerf) in NA since franchising, not even leaf who’s had some great performances is better than him. Yay has been above average at best with the agent and was not able to output the same impact on a consistent basis unlike Cryo.
Also where does Babybay fall into this? He’s a good player that performs at his best on Chamber, there’s nothing wrong with considering him as one of the best chambers if that’s the agent he literally excels on. I don’t really get why you have to use teammates as an resson to bring down Cryo or Babybay when they’re just naturally impactful on the agent
For the first paragraph I understand your point if you wanna base it off the since franchising SURE your correct but that's because cryo has been on a good and stable team since franchising he has had 0 issues no roster fucks ups and has had a decent team the entire time which by default makes you perform better.
My point added to that is yay is the greatest chamber of all time and the only reason he couldn't carry it on was because of Optic missing franchising and then C9 Dropping him because they're broke making yay go play for fun in a fucked up DSG and then trying BLEED because of a big paycheck which then had financial issues and background issues because crazyguy had issues this has all been confirmed. My point is yay is mechanically still the best chamber because of the level he showed against Cryo and Babybay while being on a MUCH worse team than both of them.
As for babybay I like him he is a good player but the level difference got shown when they play against each other even tho the team difference is massive.
There is no black and white answer you think cryo is better because he has shown a decent level since franchising and my Point is if yay had the same opportunities as babybay and cryo he would've shown that same level atleast if not higher All 3 players are great but I personally think yay>cryo>babybay and the team around you matters so much when it comes to how chamber plays and works so when shown stats it means nothing to me.
If you put cryo on G2 he would go nuclear because of the support and insane level around him.
If you put him on EG or past furia or past MIBR he would not play anywhere near the same level.
At the end of the day it's opinions and what ifs but I dislike when people can't understand how you perform differently depending of the quality of players around you matters.
Banr [#14]Brother I use to support EG and they have never looked promising even the 2023 roster didn't look promising EG got mega hate for dropping Bcj for Demon1 until they went on the run.
I will admit they usually do better than expected like the 2025 roster being 2 rounds off going to an international until they threw but point is if anyone in T2 had a choice your picking SEN over EG in every universe.
Dgzin is one of their best hopes that is true
i agree with tbh they always have glimpses of potential but fall short
its just that dgzin in this team opens them up so much, like in the last 2 seasons eg had like never had a consistent duelist and now they have one
like when i was watching the games dgzin gave me hope
its all about them peaking at the right time tbh hopefully it goes well
NoobGamer12354 [#29]i agree with tbh they always have glimpses of potential but fall short
its just that dgzin in this team opens them up so much, like in the last 2 seasons eg had like never had a consistent duelist and now they have one
like when i was watching the games dgzin gave me hope
its all about them peaking at the right time tbh hopefully it goes well
Im gonna be honest and I will get attacked by icy fans for this but if EG had him last year we would finally see EG at another international.
Dgzin has never really gotten a good chance for a while and he deserves it and I think he clears alot of the duelists in NA
Banr [#30]Im gonna be honest and I will get attacked by icy fans for this but if EG had him last year we would finally see EG at another international.
Dgzin has never really gotten a good chance for a while and he deserves it and I think he clears alot of the duelists in NA
dgzin easily top 5 duelist rn in my opinion insane riflier and opper which we dont see alot tbh
Banr [#30]Im gonna be honest and I will get attacked by icy fans for this but if EG had him last year we would finally see EG at another international.
Dgzin has never really gotten a good chance for a while and he deserves it and I think he clears alot of the duelists in NA
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