zekken smokes is kind of wasted??
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I said they should switch Mazino to smokes and Zekken to Flash/Duelist and I got called a terrorist
shrike- [#4]well with yoru gone that's what he's gonna have to play
tbh they could try neon skye waylay but not sure frod wants that
catNmouse [#5]tbh they could try neon skye waylay but not sure frod wants that
frod going to be and stay a fraud keeping tex.
z0kk0n cant play smokes at a high level is what im hearing here. So much for the potential world class flex player
KGad03 [#2]I said they should switch Mazino to smokes and Zekken to Flash/Duelist and I got called a terrorist
Mazino is great on smokes, idk why people think that’s a crazy statement
Sign Tenz and have him play smokes. Mazino viper. Zekken flex/duelist. Verno scan. ASPAS duelist
Solved. BOOM sex, B2B masters/champs
sw4gman [#7]z0kk0n cant play smokes at a high level is what im hearing here. So much for the potential world class flex player
ay 🤷♂️
KGad03 [#2]I said they should switch Mazino to smokes and Zekken to Flash/Duelist and I got called a terrorist
mazino is a terrorist on smokes. have u seen him play on lev
Shadow_Monarch [#6]frod going to be and stay a fraud keeping tex.
tex is not the problem lol
Bro they can easily just do this:
Aspas (Waylay)
Zekken (Neon)
Verno (recon/skye)
Tex (viper)
Mazino (smokes)
sw4gman [#7]z0kk0n cant play smokes at a high level is what im hearing here. So much for the potential world class flex player
He’s a world class flex because he can play anything that ISNT smokes lmao. There isn’t a player in this world that can play every role at an elite level (that includes forsaken btw)
JonahPork [#13]Bro they can easily just do this:
Aspas (Waylay)
Zekken (Neon)
Verno (recon/skye)
Tex (viper)
Mazino (smokes)
hate to break it to you but like i always said. double initator is now the meta(assuming waylay nerf is coming)
estonianhagi [#15]hate to break it to you but like i always said. double initator is now the meta(assuming waylay nerf is coming)
Why are you just assuming that the Waylay nerf is coming? They’ve done nothing to indicate that it is. Even if it is, they can use those same roles except zekken on recon/flash depending on what they want to put him on
estonianhagi [#15]hate to break it to you but like i always said. double initator is now the meta(assuming waylay nerf is coming)
waylay nerf is likely gonna come after london
JonahPork [#16]Why are you just assuming that the Waylay nerf is coming? They’ve done nothing to indicate that it is. Even if it is, they can use those same roles except zekken on recon/flash depending on what they want to put him on
zekken initator? is the world ending
catNmouse [#17]waylay nerf is likely gonna come after london
hm wow really? theyre not gonna nerf it before stage 1??? or atleast end of stage 1? riot is actually dumb dumb no wonder the game dying
estonianhagi [#19]hm wow really? theyre not gonna nerf it before stage 1??? or atleast end of stage 1? riot is actually dumb dumb no wonder the game dying
knowing riot they will do it right after stage 1 and before london just like the tejo nerfs
Zekken has been playing a lot of Neon in ranked
Aspas was playing a lot of Yoru, but with the nerfs hes probably going to play Waylay/Jett/Raze
estonianhagi [#18]zekken initator? is the world ending
Seems like you’re pretty unfamiliar with zekken so I’ll just tell you, he literally built his career off his initiator play, not duelist. Obviously in 2024 he transitioned and he’s always played a bit of raze/neon/jett but he was mostly a Skye/Sova back on XSET
catNmouse [#20]knowing riot they will do it right after stage 1 and before london just like the tejo nerfs
atleast it will be in effect for masters london. lol i remember all the teams panicking trying to implement tejo into their strats with 2 week prep for masters
glittering_yard [#21]Zekken has been playing a lot of Neon in ranked
Aspas was playing a lot of Yoru, but with the nerfs hes probably going to play Waylay/Jett/Raze
Neon waylay skye just run it
KGad03 [#2]I said they should switch Mazino to smokes and Zekken to Flash/Duelist and I got called a terrorist
they need to kick tex and get Less and put zekken on duelist/init and let Less play senti and smokes
estonianhagi [#23]atleast it will be in effect for masters london. lol i remember all the teams panicking trying to implement tejo into their strats with 2 week prep for masters
not only that they also took out fracture for sunset so you literally had to adapt to the tejo nerfs AND map pool changes
glittering_yard [#21]Zekken has been playing a lot of Neon in ranked
Aspas was playing a lot of Yoru, but with the nerfs hes probably going to play Waylay/Jett/Raze
riot stretched aspas like di maria did puyol
catNmouse [#26]not only that they also took out fracture for sunset so you literally had to adapt to the tejo nerfs AND map pool changes
was that before or after they removed pings and the A bombsite spam main. oh my god i almost split my face in half playing that
estonianhagi [#27]riot stretched aspas like di maria did puyol
Well, at least he has more practice on Yoru for his duelist agent pool
Now its just back to comfort if Yoru is dead
glittering_yard [#29]Well, at least he has more practice on Yoru for his duelist agent pool
Now its just back to comfort if Yoru is dead
Aspas should just lock waylay every map
catNmouse [#24]Neon waylay skye just run it
I guess Verno would have to be the Skye? Or Mazino?
Im a big fan of Verno’s Sova and Fade
glittering_yard [#31]I guess Verno would have to be the Skye? Or Mazino?
Im a big fan of Verno’s Sova and Fade
Verno is more of a Skye than a fade player, he can definitely play Skye
catNmouse [#30]Aspas should just lock waylay every map
Jett+Skye used to be strong back then too
JonahPork [#32]Verno is more of a Skye than a fade player, he can definitely play Skye
I can only remember 1 Skye game from him on MIBR, hes been perma SovaFade for a very long time (And Tejo in Stage 1 2025)
Verno on buffed Skye might give him more opportunities to create plays with the flashes
glittering_yard [#34]I can only remember 1 Skye game from him on MIBR, hes been perma SovaFade for a very long time (And Tejo in Stage 1 2025)
Verno on buffed Skye might give him more opportunities to create plays with the flashes
It’s been an incredibly long time since Verno played Skye tbf, no idea if he even ever played it in VCL so he’s probably a bit rusty on her but when Verno was first being scouted as a talent, that was his bread and butter. He will be good on it
KGad03 [#2]I said they should switch Mazino to smokes and Zekken to Flash/Duelist and I got called a terrorist
realistically if you need a smokes player you just drop zekken before switching mazino off of flashes
AhhhYuhhh [#36]realistically if you need a smokes player you just drop zekken before switching mazino off of flashes
what i was thinking. mazinos best role is that flex initator flash role. its what made him crazy on his MVP for lev in stage 2. on smokes hes a absolute terrorist
estonianhagi [#11]mazino is a terrorist on smokes. have u seen him play on lev
hes only good on brim like on bind he used to play brim for lev 24
estonianhagi [#37]what i was thinking. mazinos best role is that flex initator flash role. its what made him crazy on his MVP for lev in stage 2. on smokes hes a absolute terrorist
I don't even think Mazino has looked bad on smokes this year, a lot better then he did when he was on it permanently in 2023. The problem is that it's just a huge waste to keep him off flashes. I've been saying this since this MIBR roster first came together, zekken has no role when all of his best agents are covered by Aspas, Verno and Mazino, who each do them better then he does. \
According to zekken every team he was in talks with during the offseason wanted him on smokes/2nd duelist, I genuinely want to know what every coach collectively smoked to think this was a good idea.
AhhhYuhhh [#39]I don't even think Mazino has looked bad on smokes this year, a lot better then he did when he was on it permanently in 2023. The problem is that it's just a huge waste to keep him off flashes. I've been saying this since this MIBR roster first came together, zekken has no role when all of his best agents are covered by Aspas, Verno and Mazino, who each do them better then he does. \
According to zekken every team he was in talks with during the offseason wanted him on smokes/2nd duelist, I genuinely want to know what every coach collectively smoked to think this was a good idea.
my guess is teams were too scared to give up their main duelist, even though zekken is an upgrade for every team except for mibr at that role
maybe zekken wanted to also just play another role. not sure. but picking up a star duelist just for him to play a new role that doesn't fit his identity is a terrible idea
glittering_yard [#33]Jett+Skye used to be strong back then too
Waylay + skye is the real deal now
I can see aspas do really well on waylay idk why he doesn’t like her
I_LOVE_LESS [#25]they need to kick tex and get Less and put zekken on duelist/init and let Less play senti and smokes
and while ur at it replace mazino too
AhhhYuhhh [#39]I don't even think Mazino has looked bad on smokes this year, a lot better then he did when he was on it permanently in 2023. The problem is that it's just a huge waste to keep him off flashes. I've been saying this since this MIBR roster first came together, zekken has no role when all of his best agents are covered by Aspas, Verno and Mazino, who each do them better then he does. \
According to zekken every team he was in talks with during the offseason wanted him on smokes/2nd duelist, I genuinely want to know what every coach collectively smoked to think this was a good idea.
probably thinking about turning him into the second tenz as he cant really play jett or any role with an operator.
Wumkers [#38]hes only good on brim like on bind he used to play brim for lev 24
his brim was terror. we had to tell c0m to play viper just so bro wasnt on brim 😭
catNmouse [#41]Waylay + skye is the real deal now
I can see aspas do really well on waylay idk why he doesn’t like her
As far as i know, he likes Waylay, hes also playing Waylay in ranked
JonahPork [#14]He’s a world class flex because he can play anything that ISNT smokes lmao. There isn’t a player in this world that can play every role at an elite level (that includes forsaken btw)
f0rsaken's omen needs to be studied and carved in cave paintings for civilizations to come 10000 years from now
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