OKAY gentle m0tes

bipo and glyph are super admirable but being realistic we won't win a trophy with them, and the rest of EMEA will improve so its best they are moved on from

but only on the condition the replacement isn't just on paper but meshes with the team

Starxo actually had a great tournament imo

I think Minny was mediocre but it's his first international, but we should have beat AG and NS if he was online. Just realistic, he's not that far behind Marteen usually.

only comment about the coaching staff was the nongshim game, was really winnable. minny kayo is troll, shouldve stuck to marteen yoru and maybe minny flex some other sentinel or controller, not kay/o.

also, if KC can keep Marteen for 2 years, we got atleast a season so please stop tryna pick our carcass.

+Proxh
+GlobeX/Boni

Nah minus glyph is the only move. They aren't qualifying to london anyway

Krayon9239 [#2]

Nah minus glyph is the only move. They aren't qualifying to london anyway

glyph actually is an elite astra, bipo is not an elite neon.

gamergirl [#3]

glyph actually is an elite astra, bipo is not an elite neon.

glyph aim is worst than starxo. Sign kamyk proxh or kada

They are a disgrace to the EMEA regime, and will no longer hold top 3 spot from here on out. Vitality, fnatic and bbl are the true strength of our dominant region.

OkOkay [#5]

They are a disgrace to the EMEA regime, and will no longer hold top 3 spot from here on out. Vitality, fnatic and bbl are the true strength of our dominant region.

Liquid gonna qualify for sure.

Why would you change a newly formed team with 3 rookies? It was their first international event and stage pressure got to them. When are people going to understand that you can't just buy good aimers and win titles. Vitality is the prime example for that

the problem with glyph and starxo is that they are good support players but bad fraggers. nowadays you can really just have one of these and its already too much. like FNC with boaster. marteen wont always go beast mode and minny and bipo are too inconsistent to cover it. but this team really does have potential

foythvlr [#8]

the problem with glyph and starxo is that they are good support players but bad fraggers. nowadays you can really just have one of these and its already too much. like FNC with boaster. marteen wont always go beast mode and minny and bipo are too inconsistent to cover it. but this team really does have potential

starxo bad fragger is just pure cope

minny is insanely consistent

glyph and bipo do suck fragging

Krayon9239 [#6]

Liquid gonna qualify for sure.

We will sneak the last spot every int just to spite haters

HarryMaguire [#7]

Why would you change a newly formed team with 3 rookies? It was their first international event and stage pressure got to them. When are people going to understand that you can't just buy good aimers and win titles. Vitality is the prime example for that

because the goal is to win masters?

don't even compare what I suggested to Vitality, and like I said you should only be making roster changes if there's a fit

Boni and Proxh are not just MUCH better fraggers but are also elite in their role, and T2 players typically come into T1 with something to prove

gamergirl [#9]

starxo bad fragger is just pure cope

minny is insanely consistent

glyph and bipo do suck fragging

How does bipo suck at fragging? Did you not watch vct emea games? He literally broke the previous keiko bo5 kill record in back to back bo5 games while on the hard entry role. Of course he did not get his flowers because marteen decided to go god mode.

gamergirl [#9]

starxo bad fragger is just pure cope

minny is insanely consistent

glyph and bipo do suck fragging

starxo is at the very least very inconsistent regarding his fragging

minny peak is insane but this tournament he had a really bad floor

its fine for a first international but it becomes a problem if it gets repeated. same goes for bipo but he had even worse showings

what a downgrade

Krayon9239 [#4]

glyph aim is worst than starxo. Sign kamyk proxh or kada

Kamyk 😭😭😭😭

i dont understand some of you fans. are you not happy with your team going from 2nd to last in stage 2 last year, to winning games at internationals? teams like LOUD, TS, KC, etc would swap places with yall in a heartbeat. I get your expectations are high, but they're also very unrealistic. If they bomb out next tourney tho, let it rip. Rn it's just too early to point fingers

themaniel [#15]

Kamyk 😭😭😭😭

Nah i believe in kamyk. His aim is insane.

HarryMaguire [#12]

How does bipo suck at fragging? Did you not watch vct emea games? He literally broke the previous keiko bo5 kill record in back to back bo5 games while on the hard entry role. Of course he did not get his flowers because marteen decided to go god mode.

we played an insane amount of rounds both those BO5s. it's not as impressive as you think. also you're italian so i'll stop arguing with you since this is obviously a personal matter.

lalapalooza [#16]

i dont understand some of you fans. are you not happy with your team going from 2nd to last in stage 2 last year, to winning games at internationals? teams like LOUD, TS, KC, etc would swap places with yall in a heartbeat. I get your expectations are high, but they're also very unrealistic. If they bomb out next tourney tho, let it rip. Rn it's just too early to point fingers

I am extremely happy, but I would rather gentle mates win a major than finish 12th, there is a large difference between the caliber of AG and NRG.

gamergirl [#11]

because the goal is to win masters?

don't even compare what I suggested to Vitality, and like I said you should only be making roster changes if there's a fit

Boni and Proxh are not just MUCH better fraggers but are also elite in their role, and T2 players typically come into T1 with something to prove

Well we did sign proxh last year and then decided not to continue with him. Im not going to assume anything but there must be a reason they did not continue with him.
I understand that fragging wise glyph and bipo were poor this event but this was their first international event and even master winners teams can crumble under pressure and these guys are only rookies.
The synergy is there so It doesn't make any sense to make any changes before stage 1. If we don't perform to the level in stage 1 then this could be a topic of conversation

gamergirl [#18]

we played an insane amount of rounds both those BO5s. it's not as impressive as you think. also you're italian so i'll stop arguing with you since this is obviously a personal matter.

Yes, I do have my personal bias but considering where we were last year and at the start of the season, no one considered us to qualify for santiago and even after qualifying for santiago many doubted us to get out of playoffs but looking at your comments, even if we had finished higher you wouldn't have been satisfied. Be a little optimistic and stop criticizing everything. Things do not change overnight

gamergirl [#19]

I am extremely happy, but I would rather gentle mates win a major than finish 12th, there is a large difference between the caliber of AG and NRG.

They finished top8 in the first international of the year after kickoff which was the roster's Debut. wait at LEAST until stage two to think about changes.

foythvlr [#8]

the problem with glyph and starxo is that they are good support players but bad fraggers. nowadays you can really just have one of these and its already too much. like FNC with boaster. marteen wont always go beast mode and minny and bipo are too inconsistent to cover it. but this team really does have potential

Do you think TL has potential 😔

gamergirl [#19]

I am extremely happy, but I would rather gentle mates win a major than finish 12th, there is a large difference between the caliber of AG and NRG.

i feel u bro ur a fan and the loss hurts, but AG is the top team in China for a reason. instead of being upset abt the placement just look at it as a massive learning experience thats only gonna push them to get a better seed for next time. Its better to go thru these learning pains now rather than later when its time for champs.

Madouza [#22]

They finished top8 in the first international of the year after kickoff which was the roster's Debut. wait at LEAST until stage two to think about changes.

they beat edg and liquid, idk if its allat

Langacune [#25]

they beat edg and liquid, idk if its allat

Yes
+regional matchup ain't that hard to do

Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#23]

Do you think TL has potential 😔

Unironically yeah i think this is s better roster than last year

Krayon9239 [#17]

Nah i believe in kamyk. His aim is insane.

kamyk is an awful baiter and his util is mid + he's dumb. He has good mechanics but he would fuck up m8s so bad. ProxH is by far better than him