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if china z0r0 win again

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#1
itoktobenotok

In upcoming hours we will see if china are truly irreparable or not
EDG needs to step up because XLG is 100% bomb out

If not Riot seriously needs to reconsider the slots distribution
My suggestion is a new format which STEALS a slot of the worst region and GIVES to the best region evaluating based on points in masters:
Timeline:

  1. Kickoff: no change

  2. #1 Masters:
    masters' pts now not only being used for seed 3, 4 but for region ranking also.
    Points of a region == all points of that region's teams collect after the tournament
    Ex: 1st place PRX take 6 pts and 4th NS take 2 pts, T1 bomb out in swiss stage 0 pts. Totally APAC get 8 pts
    4 regions are ranked from top to bottom based on pts. the bottom region have to GIVE one of their NEXT MASTERS SLOT to the top region
    if EMEA is top and CN is bottom then in next masters EMEA has 4 slots while CN only has 2

  3. Stage 1: a region's format has to change if they get a new slot or lose a slot

  4. #2 Masters:
    Same as masters 1 but with a catch:
    because now the worst region only has 2 contenders which lower the pts they can possibly collect
    so we now rank regions based on the average of total pts each region collects
    Ex: CN has total 5 pts this time from 2 teams so CN average pts is 2.5 while AMER has total 12 pts from 3 teams then the average is 4
    The worst give a slot to the best in the next Champs same as Masters 1

  5. Stage 2: a region's format has to change if they get a new slot or lose a slot

  6. Champs result will not affect the slot distribution of the next year vct

NOTE: If 4th region's pts == 3rd region's pts, considering some sub-criteria like the recent results of direct face-off between the teams of 2 regions or smth we will figure that out.

CONCLUSION: This will provides much more high quality matches and hype to international tournaments. Saving viewers' time from watching disasterclass of "we're here to learning and growing" ahh region. This format is also better than LCQ option because players don't have to travel to play more matches, saving riot money.

THIS IS MY OPINION SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?

#2
Kaust
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It's important to have teams that are learning and growing though. Otherwise, how will they ever catch up?

#4
itoktobenotok
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They will still have chance to grow with 2 SLOTS gusy and first Master are always 3 SLOTS. IF CHINA NEED CHANCES TO GROW SO DO EMEA, APAC, AMER bro there are many good teams are rising in those region and and I feel frustrated when they never get one chance to play international like 100T for example while China is going down hard if they are thriving they would remain full 3 slots and even get a fourth.

#6
catNmouse
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should we take away a slot from EMEA then? always one team making deep runs while the others either only get top 6 or occasionally shit the bed like in toronto

#10
itoktobenotok
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EMEA still in the safezone because CN teams cannot stop bombing out faster than light with only 1 or 2 wins in the whole tournament

#3
cloudberry
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How are CN meant to grow as a region if they don't get a chance at the international level?

This is like saying Asia should get less slots at the World Cup because they're not as good as European or South American or African teams... how are they meant to develop as footballing nations without World Cup experience and international exposure?

Directly rewarding/punishing entire regions for individual performances is the easiest way to create an insurmountable divide between the best and the worst

#16
itoktobenotok
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Bro UEFA has 16 WC slots while AFC only has 8 slots
The views of both region are relatively equal so FIFA favors UEFA must because of this region is more developed than Asian.
Another example is in league of legends, Korea - country-sized region has 3 slots equals to PAC, EMEA, Americas - continent-sized region because Korea is much better than other regions so they basically get more slots than other countries.

I understand that rewarding/punishing entire regions is quite harsh but in other sports they have already punished bad region with lesser slots all the time, not like if Japan win the 2026 world cup then AFC slots will increase bro.

Valorant format compared to other e-sports are very very kind to weak region i gotta say and it is understandable because they need CN money but to my liking i prefer more teams from strong region so I could enjoy more peak valorant games. I watched BLG vs EDG match and it was so ass felt like immortal 2 peak battle with no clear strats, coordination and people just tried to outaim their ops

#5
tygers99
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I like this idea becuase it would make games have even higher stakes but really it would just be a China punishment meter

#9
itoktobenotok
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Not to mention that 2 slots actually more easy to comeback than normal 3 slots. if for example 2 china teams get 5th-6th while amer teams get 3rd-4th but the third teams like SEN choke in 10th-12th that pull everyone down. As a result CN > AMER.

#7
waseetali9
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nah this will make cn worse and worse
so no

#8
ccccc_
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Riot wont give a fuck about what you said

#11
Vgb
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I like it but this shit won't happen.

#12
Ikhsa_delano
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the 4th seeds for pac, amer, and emea will clear china. they dont deserve the spot tbh. should just be a play-in tournament between the 4th seeds of the big 3 region and china’s 2nd or 3rd seeds, grand finals go to masters

#13
itoktobenotok
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I once made a thread about that format in Paris Champs after witnessing china disappointment but someone pointed out that new play-in tournament would cost more money and time because players had to travel to play. Playing online is absolutely not because it unprofessional and ping problem

#14
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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XLG are just the regional farmers. Every region has one. And we know EDG is one coaching change away from another trophy run

If AG disappoints, then it'd be time to consider why the region is so bad

#15
Ukienddo
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Riot only cares for money

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