guys there has to be a solution that fixes this team. i personally dont think that champs 2025 was their strongest showcase of their potential. obviously chichoo and smoggy are gross and went ballistic, but we didn't see much of the kk show
we had finally found the solution with s1mon, but then he exploded.
i personally think that all this team needs is a new coaching staff and maybe drop cb
im just hesitant in believing in autumn bc of how much shit he's gotten in the past
Drop cb??? He was best player against M8.
His agent pool is massive.. They need to drop smoggy or nobody
Good int debut imo. He was taking aggro space for the team. kk & cb wasn't playing bad.
yeah fair cb isn't that bad at this intl
i can maybe hear nobody even tho he's the igl, but dropping smoggy is just braindead bro that guy has done everything for edg
Yup its just sad. But They need to sacrifice atleast one core player no matter what.
Chichoo igl is another solution. His numbers aren't great anymore. Find a shooter to replace nobody..
bro why are my two goats being disrespected wtf. why is everyone acting like they haven't been the hidden goats of this team for so long
the thing is you need to move forward, it feels weird when cores like these have been together for so long but teams are here to win
prx dropped mindfreak who was there from the start for a rookie initiator, and went on to win
yeah but mindfreak wasn't one of their BEST players. for me, the true core is chichoo, smoggy, kangkang. also im p sure chichoo and kk are a package deal
or it's kk and smoggy, i can't remember
oh yeah, i think its kk and smoggy; also edg is just like prx you can't say that they have one best player except for the face of the team; the amount of impact smoggy has was the same mf had on prx
ehhhh smoggy was putting up big numbers when they were looking like shit in 2024 and 25
i love the OG EDG team but bro smoggy needs to go ... he has made a lot of sacrifices for the team ever since 2022 but its just not happening anymore ... chichoo should be back ... i dont think cb will stay after yoru nerf anyways so whatever ... keep nobody, kk and chichoo and start building from there ... also CN nees to stop poaching coaches from pacific but again they cant necessarily import western coaches bcoz that just straight up contradicts the type of valorant they have learnt from scrimming with pacific teams from time immemorial ... in my opinion, you get After back and let a foreign coach join as an assistant coach
bro what why are we dropping smoggy?? that guy singlehandedly carries them some games.
Is After a good coach?
the real issue is the core edg is very inconsistent, except for kk who always steps up at internationals
i don't think talent is that big of an issue, yeah chichoo and smoggy have fallen off; but even then they were quite competitive against m8
they need to go down the prx route, hire some na/emea coach to improve their basic fundamentals and game knowledge like mini was to prx, prx haven't lost their iconic chaotic style but they have good understanding of games, edg threw so many 5v3s going for solo hero plays like prx used to do in late 2024 - early 2025
bro i have genuinely been saying ts since 2024. we need someone like fns or someone to come in as an AC to help with strats
-cb +slowly
-Autumn +literally any other coach from outside of China
There is a fix, its called TIME. Why? cause there's no magic instant quick solution. This isn't as bad as Madrid/Shanghai of coach aft3r trying to play EMEA style with Haodong no longer able to aim at high level.
They just need to win china again. 1st seed is massive for masters.
Xlg is finished. Only real challenge is tyloo
Smoggy needs to revive in order for EDG to become strong again, but his shots are so inconsistent... sometimes he looks like the best shooter in the world then most of the times he just sleeps during matches
Their struggles are more a symptom of the bigger disease plaguing Chinese valorant, which is the lack of young and innovative coaches. It’s a lot of just recycling coaching talent and not pushing any boundaries
I mean all cb does is overpeek when they have earned the man adv, I think he should be dropped or atleast coached to not make such plays
Peak edg was overpeeking everything. Smoggy & chichoo are way to passive now
That one fluke run really had them thinking they’re a dynasty now.
EDG fans used to throw a parade just for winning a single map at internationals, even if the flight home was booked the next day.
what even was the logic behind autumn, are there just no good chinese coaches that we result to importing terrorists?
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