Honestly looking the strongest out of all regions this year.
Americas looks cluttered with dogshit teams
Pacific only has T1 and RRQ (gets grouped in International)
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I think you lost it by forgetting nongshim, furia and mibr exist
BBL looks like the best team itw rn
Fnc is getting back to form even without Chronicle
Mates/Vitality qualify for santiago then the trophy is going Emea for sure
BBL and M8 look good but heavily momentum based (and inexperience + anti-strat would weaken them internationally). FNC is still not even close to being in form, and Vitality is probably not even going to win against GX today.
BBL isn't momentum based, this team is well coordinated and they control the pace of the game.
I agree with your analogy about M8.
Fnatic is close to being in form because we can see that they're still winning impossible rounds, closing out close games and not giving up when put against pressure even with a player as bad veqaj.
as an overall emea is prob best but the creme de la creme of americas might be above still. we can overreact as much as we want atleast one of MIBR or NRG will deff be in most finals
Honestly no,
Nongshim doesn't have a track record which can justify whether they're consistent or not, everyone said the same thing about Boom esports back when they were shooting.
Every year in pacific a team goes on a run which no one expects but that team doesn't perform later due to lack of consistency.
Example : BOOM, DRX (post kickoff), Talon (champs qualification)
Wasn’t DRX’s fault Flashback left halfway through stage 1 group stage. They looked like the best Pacific team before he left. Don’t ignore context just to push your agenda
NS made top 6 in kickoff, top 8 in stage 1 and top 6 in stage 2 which is more than what boom could accomplish
They have an established core of dambi, francis and ivy and are finally breaking the barrier
i don’t think a region that depends solely on M8 and BBL to be competitive is a top region
One way to tell me you didn't watch america's top games without telling me
if u guys are that good than why u guys cant win trophy? answer this please
"if u guys are that good than why u guys cant win trophy? answer this please"
this could be a ragebait, but ill respond anyways. Being the best region does not mean you have the best team (FNC 2023 being the best team of 2023 is an easy example for you).
also:
region appearances in the last 7 international finals (2024-2025):
- EMEA: 6/14
- PAC: 4/14
- AMER: 3/14
- CN: 1/14
the highest placement any non-fnatic team placed at an international is 4th in 2023
excluding lock-in is 6th
I mean the argument why 'emea is shit' has been 'they havent won since 2023', now u saying they still shit even if they did win a trophy
EMEA hasn’t won since 2023, and even then they needed the avengers to make it happen
Still the longest drought of all four regions
So yes, emea is shit
By how people act, apparently all you need to be the best region is a trophy. People acting like America hasn't been all G2 till champs for 1.5 years
So TH doesnt exist? Which other team than G2 actually made gf appearances for pretty much 2 years besides NRG champs now
in the past 2 years, two EMEA teams and two AMER teams have made a grand final
in that same time frame, 3 emea teams had a top 4 finish (FNC TH VIT) compared to AMER’s 6 (100T LOUD G2 SEN LEV NRG)
Which is why I said 1.5 years in the first place.
Shanghai: TH 2nd, G2 third
Champs 24: TH 2nd, LEV third
Bangkok: VIT 4th, G2 2nd
Toronto: FNC 2nd, G2 4th
Champs 25: FNC 2nd, NRG 1st
America has only made 2 GF appearances in 1.5 years (was 1 before champs 25). Meanwhile EMEA has had 4 + a higher average placement than America, and like I said it was pretty much only G2 before champs. Pretty sure America has been losing head-to-head against EMEA for basically forever, though I’m not 100% sure.
Funny how you have to specifically make it into half intervals in order to make your case as if AMER didn’t win the tourney that came directly before shanghai
just goes to show how bad EMEA is that you need to delve deep into specifics in order to make the region seem more competitive (which they barely do)
funny enough, AMER did in fact win BOTH matchups against EMEA ( SEN > TH, SEN > KC )
by the way, in 2023, AMER was present for every single grand final, EMEA was not
This is bait right? anyone who watches more than one league would know that emea is and has always been one of the worst leagues. just be thankful china started later than everyone otherwise they would surpass emea too and they probably by next year
LMAOO how can you even come up with this conclusion
Americas is BY far the best region
Two post-franchising champs and as much masters as EMEA (most of them by 1 team region LULW) MEMEA always likes to brag about the fossil era. Like holy moly that's actually sad.
NA > APAC > EMEA
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