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What makes a good team?

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#1
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one

What makes a good team?
Is it a bunch of rookie aim demons under a seasoned pair of vets (nrg champs 25)
Is it a bunch of vets under a master igl? (Fnatic 23)
Is it just a team who can repeat so many strats perfectly(eg 23)?

I need answers

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a team that strives in the meta under good leadership usually

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SENfns [#2]

a team that strives in the meta under good leadership usually

I mean... G2 is a good consideration for it but they never won a trophy the entire year

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#3]

I mean... G2 is a good consideration for it but they never won a trophy the entire year

yeah but they fumbled the only tejo meta (their best meta) tournament

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yeah but they fumbled the only tejo meta (their best meta) tournament

True... But honestly more than tejo it was a yoru meta, and jaw was a decently good yoru

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a team of veteran aim demons with a good coach

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a team of veteran aim demons with a good coach

So basically MIBR except replace verno and mazino and tex?

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#5]

True... But honestly more than tejo it was a yoru meta, and jaw was a decently good yoru

there were better yorus so they didnt win in the yoru meta

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#7]

So basically MIBR except replace verno and mazino and tex?

i mean maizno has good aim no?

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SENfns [#2]

a team that strives in the meta under good leadership usually

So like optic 22 under the chamber meta?

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ILikeEsports [#9]

i mean maizno has good aim no?

Idk i dont rate him highly but tbh i cant judge

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#10]

So like optic 22 under the chamber meta?

yes

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I’d say the first option
Rookie aim demons with veteran leaders

Though EG 23 is still imo the best team ever seen

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SENfns [#2]

a team that strives in the meta under good leadership usually

What about like edg 24 champs? It wasnt like the others were bad at the meta, what made them different?

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#14]

What about like edg 24 champs? It wasnt like the others were bad at the meta, what made them different?

kangkang was a good neon, aspas didn't play neon unfortunately against edg, zekken was the best neon but he had 1 teammate
and chichoo carried EDG all the way up to the grandfinals
and kangkang had a monster performance abusing the neon meta
Smoggy was also very clutch
and the goat s1mon's util was absurdly good

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Acethyr [#13]

I’d say the first option
Rookie aim demons with veteran leaders

Though EG 23 is still imo the best team ever seen

Not sure about "best team ever seen" but best Trio for sure Demon1 Jawgemo Ethan. (Derke Leo Chronicle Alfajer best Quad of all time.)

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Shadow_Monarch [#16]

Not sure about "best team ever seen" but best Trio for sure Demon1 Jawgemo Ethan. (Derke Leo Chronicle Alfajer best Quad of all time.)

You didnt put boaster?

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Shadow_Monarch [#16]

Not sure about "best team ever seen" but best Trio for sure Demon1 Jawgemo Ethan. (Derke Leo Chronicle Alfajer best Quad of all time.)

under a different igl the fnatic core would not have had the same success they did

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under a different igl the fnatic core would not have had the same success they did

Yes. Its literally 4 vets and boaster is the camera. Saying "do this do that"

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under a different igl the fnatic core would not have had the same success they did

True but Botster will always be Botster. Wouldn't had lost 3/3 Grand Finals this year if he can shoot a bit better.

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Shadow_Monarch [#20]

True but Botster will always be Botster. Wouldn't had lost 3/3 Grand Finals this year if he can shoot a bit better.

but they also wouldn't have made 3 grandfinals without him so you can't exactly get rid of him

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but they also wouldn't have made 3 grandfinals without him so you can't exactly get rid of him

True. Botfragster needs to step it up if he wants to actually win something again.

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Shadow_Monarch [#16]

Not sure about "best team ever seen" but best Trio for sure Demon1 Jawgemo Ethan. (Derke Leo Chronicle Alfajer best Quad of all time.)

I mean that’s just what I think
I think every single player on that team (at the time) was absolutely fucking incredible
And no one will beat that peak

Everyone is welcome to have their own opinions though

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