Since we now have the confirmation that Breach composition is worse than 3 duelist composition, can we stop playing this bad agent in the T1 ? :X
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Breach was never good but i guess he's just easy to fit in a comp where you want full support to your entry. But nonetheless breach is still bad
9wntr [#3]only exception is sunset
Honestly even on sunset i dont think breach is as good as people call him... Mostly because of 1 thing... Stuns... Like ill be honest 9 times out of 10 when im stunned im doing just fine, and this was back when i was iron. Stuns really feel cosmetic these days.and compared to the sage chamber comps he just does less...
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#4]Honestly even on sunset i dont think breach is as good as people call him... Mostly because of 1 thing... Stuns... Like ill be honest 9 times out of 10 when im stunned im doing just fine, and this was back when i was iron. Stuns really feel cosmetic these days.and compared to the sage chamber comps he just does less...
yeah i agree he isnt like must pick meta
but u can make him work on sunset
u cant rlly do that on other maps
bottom 1 logic of all time
not saying breach is good hes shit but wow this logic is buns
9wntr [#3]only exception is sunset
Even not Sunset, double condtroller clear
Firebug [#6]bottom 1 logic of all time
not saying breach is good hes shit but wow this logic is buns
When I make 10min long video using every data of T1+T2 nobody listen (Same for 2min short), so I decide to go the short way.
Anguibok [#8]When I make 10min long video using every data of T1+T2 nobody listen (Same for 2min short), so I decide to go the short way.
Well im interested in 10 min vid
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#9]Well im interested in 10 min vid
I stopped 10min for 2025 meta, but I still have for 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g49i_cMDXL8
I also have another script on Sunset that I never release about Sage and Cyph
Since when was breach good on abyss though at least pick a good breach map to say this
Anguibok [#10]I stopped 10min for 2025 meta, but I still have for 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g49i_cMDXL8I also have another script on Sunset that I never release about Sage and Cyph
Sage and Cypher? How would it do on attack? Defense i can see but attack?
Galactc [#11]Since when was breach good on abyss though at least pick a good breach map to say this
Since fnatic won an 11-1 comeback on abyss with solo breach ig. But honestly i feel like thats just fnatic energy and nrg being bad somehow after side swap
Galactc [#11]Since when was breach good on abyss though at least pick a good breach map to say this
Since fnatic won an 11-1 comeback on abyss with solo breach ig. But honestly i feel like thats just fnatic energy and nrg being bad somehow after side swap
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#12]Sage and Cypher? How would it do on attack? Defense i can see but attack?
The video is about Sage and Cypher, but not about composition with both, The title of the video is "Who killed Cypher Winrate on Sunset"
Anguibok [#15]The video is about Sage and Cypher, but not about composition with both, The title of the video is "Who killed Cypher Winrate on Sunset"
Ah, im curious... Its probably cypher because of more games in general
oh boy you wouldve HATED watching TU play
mfs used to play breach on every map
Galactc [#11]Since when was breach good on abyss though at least pick a good breach map to say this
Breach was good only during Tejo meta because of the synergy offering a good postplant for the Tejo
9wntr [#17]oh boy you wouldve HATED watching TU play
mfs used to play breach on every map
Wait they do? Is that why they havent ascended yet?
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#19]Wait they do? Is that why they havent ascended yet?
they disbanded
and yeah
breach was an issue
dav1 (the hc) was such a breach believer he had them playing breach lotus, corrode, and in the past even ascent and icebox
9wntr [#17]oh boy you wouldve HATED watching TU play
mfs used to play breach on every map
Low ELO have a pass, since lower you go lower you the lower player have issue dodging flash, and doesn't have the level to play double controller. But TU isnt that low... (And now even in GC-FR scene people dodge more so...)
Anguibok [#21]Low ELO have a pass, since lower you go lower you the lower player have issue dodging flash, and doesn't have the level to play double controller. But TU isnt that low... (And now even in GC-FR scene people dodge more so...)
thing is
TU were a top 4 team at ascension 2024
the br00ch cost them serval maps
9wntr [#22]thing is
TU were a top 4 team at ascension 2024
the br00ch cost them serval maps
I'm still trauma of the JL game and drama :X
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#16]Ah, im curious... Its probably cypher because of more games in general
Not really, and not that in proportion, (Winrate going down when play a lot, is something we can see only on sentinel since it's eavyly counterstratable)
script :
Hi vlr, this week I wanted to make a full analysis of Sunset, and I start to analysis the data
Since it’s one of the most recent map, but the meta kinda tend to freeze on the double initiator and a Sentinel archetype so I was wondering if I would find something intresting to say.
And guys, I fell into a rabbit hole mixed with a detective story, so today, I won’t make a full video about Sunset meta, I will postpone it to later. Today, I want to resolve a Crime.
Scene of the crime 1am, Sunset B site, I just arrive and saw the dead body of Cypher, and the critical state of Raze and Sova. The lab already told me we saw a low rate of 39 % NMWR on Cypher blood wish is a deadly level with 95 % of certainty, and 45 % and 48 % for Raze and Sova wish is only 78 % and 46 % percent of certanty deadly.
So first question. Who killed Cypher, he got 39 % NMWR in his blood, wish mean some people got 61 % and stole this 11 %, since it’s hard to calculate NMWR when we searsh a suspect we will only use que WR, wish is 41 % so we are looking with someone that was here when Cypher was dead and that have far more than 59 % WR in their blood.
Let’s start to see who got a mobile to kill him. The biggfest one is Killjoy wish is his favorite concurrent insite the guild of the Sentinels, she would have all the interest of the world to kill him, but after more investigation, it seems she is not active in the Sunset, only 2 % even if in the rare case she was here she had a good result that have slowly impacted Cypher, it seems Killjoy and Cypher agreed it was Cypher territory. So it seems she is innocent. But if it’s not an ennemy inside of the guild, maybe it’s a rival guild. We all know that the guild of the controller has lost some, influence on Sunset territory, maybe they want to take back the control on it as they did on Bind. Collectively, they look innocent, since their NMWR is almost equal to the NMWR, and if we look individually, Viper is lower than the 59 %, and Astra and Clove have mush more than 59 % but like Killjoy, didn’t show enough presence to be a good suspect.
The investigation is slipping, let’s see who was present when he diesd, Omen, Raze, Gekko, but they have no mobile to kill Cypher, because they are not in concurrence with him, Raze had no interest in Sentinel market, Geko sayz he almost have to fight Sova and Fade, and Omen is just the owner of Sunset, and is just here whenever Cypher is here or not. Anyway their WR is too low to be suspicious. But all of them has say they saw a strange figure was present, more than half of the time when Cypher was missing she was here, and with amazing result, a woman that nobody would suspect she could do anything wrong. This woman was controlled with 65 % WR when Cypher was not in her team : Sage.
Ok this is weird, but that doesnt explain why Sova and especially Raze are between life and dead, this 2 agent are really good against Cypher so it wouold have been logical if they have steal some of his NMWR, and still, they are both in negative and seems to have lost some of it. So I went a little bit more in deph,
I calculate the WR when we have a Sova and no Raze, 51 % thats good, with a Raze and no Sova, we hit 50 % thats also ok, but when we have and a Raze and Sova we just arrive at 46 % percent. Does that mean they killed each other ? They where just so bad when they where in the same team that their Non Mirror Winrate dropped hard because of the composition they where in the same team ? Thats an hypothesis, but just in case I’ve checked the composition without a Raze and without a Sova, it should be really low, because when you have none, it’s hard to break Cypher trip and he become a predator, 57 % WinRate. Ok, this started to be weird, but maybe other agent can do something against Cypher trips. Breach, he can do something against the trips, and he was present in half of the composition withtout a Raze and a Sov, so lets see composition with No Raze, No Sova and Breach… Only 52 % so mush lower than the 57 %. Ok so let’s see who was present when we have No Raze, No Sova and No Breach… Kayo and… Sage ? Again ? Let’s just focus on composition with no Raze, no Sova, No Breach, but a Sage in the composition… 75 % Winrate… Usually she is paired with Kayo, but without her, he did really poorly, only 50 % NMWR in his blood… I mean cable.
Now Sage starting to be really suspect, did she killed Cypher, and almost killed Sova and Raze ? But how ? Maybe we will know more in my investigation on Sunset map, where I’ll make an overall analysis with Archetype, NonMirror Winrate of every agent, and mush more.
Withtout any 2nd thougt I have no doubt. Why Sage performed really good on Valorant despide being considered as a bad agent is the biggest mystery in Valorant, and with the up in this patch, maybe the mystery will be even more weird vlr… Bye.
Anguibok [#25]Not really, and not that in proportion, (Winrate going down when play a lot, is something we can see only on sentinel since it's eavyly counterstratable)
script :
Hi vlr, this week I wanted to make a full analysis of Sunset, and I start to analysis the data
Since it’s one of the most recent map, but the meta kinda tend to freeze on the double initiator and a Sentinel archetype so I was wondering if I would find something intresting to say.
And guys, I fell into a rabbit hole mixed with a detective story, so today, I won’t make a full video about Sunset meta, I will postpone it to later. Today, I want to resolve a Crime.
Scene of the crime 1am, Sunset B site, I just arrive and saw the dead body of Cypher, and the critical state of Raze and Sova. The lab already told me we saw a low rate of 39 % NMWR on Cypher blood wish is a deadly level with 95 % of certainty, and 45 % and 48 % for Raze and Sova wish is only 78 % and 46 % percent of certanty deadly.
So first question. Who killed Cypher, he got 39 % NMWR in his blood, wish mean some people got 61 % and stole this 11 %, since it’s hard to calculate NMWR when we searsh a suspect we will only use que WR, wish is 41 % so we are looking with someone that was here when Cypher was dead and that have far more than 59 % WR in their blood.
Let’s start to see who got a mobile to kill him. The biggfest one is Killjoy wish is his favorite concurrent insite the guild of the Sentinels, she would have all the interest of the world to kill him, but after more investigation, it seems she is not active in the Sunset, only 2 % even if in the rare case she was here she had a good result that have slowly impacted Cypher, it seems Killjoy and Cypher agreed it was Cypher territory. So it seems she is innocent. But if it’s not an ennemy inside of the guild, maybe it’s a rival guild. We all know that the guild of the controller has lost some, influence on Sunset territory, maybe they want to take back the control on it as they did on Bind. Collectively, they look innocent, since their NMWR is almost equal to the NMWR, and if we look individually, Viper is lower than the 59 %, and Astra and Clove have mush more than 59 % but like Killjoy, didn’t show enough presence to be a good suspect.
The investigation is slipping, let’s see who was present when he diesd, Omen, Raze, Gekko, but they have no mobile to kill Cypher, because they are not in concurrence with him, Raze had no interest in Sentinel market, Geko sayz he almost have to fight Sova and Fade, and Omen is just the owner of Sunset, and is just here whenever Cypher is here or not. Anyway their WR is too low to be suspicious. But all of them has say they saw a strange figure was present, more than half of the time when Cypher was missing she was here, and with amazing result, a woman that nobody would suspect she could do anything wrong. This woman was controlled with 65 % WR when Cypher was not in her team : Sage.
Ok this is weird, but that doesnt explain why Sova and especially Raze are between life and dead, this 2 agent are really good against Cypher so it wouold have been logical if they have steal some of his NMWR, and still, they are both in negative and seems to have lost some of it. So I went a little bit more in deph,
I calculate the WR when we have a Sova and no Raze, 51 % thats good, with a Raze and no Sova, we hit 50 % thats also ok, but when we have and a Raze and Sova we just arrive at 46 % percent. Does that mean they killed each other ? They where just so bad when they where in the same team that their Non Mirror Winrate dropped hard because of the composition they where in the same team ? Thats an hypothesis, but just in case I’ve checked the composition without a Raze and without a Sova, it should be really low, because when you have none, it’s hard to break Cypher trip and he become a predator, 57 % WinRate. Ok, this started to be weird, but maybe other agent can do something against Cypher trips. Breach, he can do something against the trips, and he was present in half of the composition withtout a Raze and a Sov, so lets see composition with No Raze, No Sova and Breach… Only 52 % so mush lower than the 57 %. Ok so let’s see who was present when we have No Raze, No Sova and No Breach… Kayo and… Sage ? Again ? Let’s just focus on composition with no Raze, no Sova, No Breach, but a Sage in the composition… 75 % Winrate… Usually she is paired with Kayo, but without her, he did really poorly, only 50 % NMWR in his blood… I mean cable.Now Sage starting to be really suspect, did she killed Cypher, and almost killed Sova and Raze ? But how ? Maybe we will know more in my investigation on Sunset map, where I’ll make an overall analysis with Archetype, NonMirror Winrate of every agent, and mush more.
Withtout any 2nd thougt I have no doubt. Why Sage performed really good on Valorant despide being considered as a bad agent is the biggest mystery in Valorant, and with the up in this patch, maybe the mystery will be even more weird vlr… Bye.
Honestly... Very nice script
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#27]Honestly... Very nice script
I'm sad i've never release it, it was probably my funniest script so far
foythvlr [#26]brasil: instructions unclear we're running breach every map
"We cant have a low winrate on Breach if he is present on every map"
TO be fair most of T2 team are like that x)
Anguibok [#28]I'm sad i've never release it, it was probably my funniest script so far
Please do more, ill watch and support if that matters
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#30]Please do more, ill watch and support if that matters
I should shout the Corrode video today but i'm sick lol
Anguibok [#31]I should shout the Corrode video today but i'm sick lol
All good, ill wait, sincere fan right here
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