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Most overrated player in GOAT debates

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b3rzera1

For me 100% its nAts dont get me wrong he is phenomenal as a player but in the goat deabte ur individual gameplay isnt the only thing which matters ur trophies also play a huge role in it as well + his win was in 2021 which makes his case weaker to be even top 10 in the GOAT debate .

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mulyondoindon
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waylay

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b3rzera1
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????????

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mulyondoindon
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we already saw the glimpse of greatness when he use that agent

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b3rzera1
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I said player

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g2gcHATER
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tenz

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sw4gman
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go outside of vlr and there's a crazy number of people who still think he's the goat cause of "vibes" (personality of a cardboard box btw)

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g2gcHATER
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yeah, fr he is one the biggest personality of the game, but he's not on the goat debate.

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overrated
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botnicle

underrated
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edit
leo is overrated too
qraxs is underrated tho

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BerLINglazer
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why is this downvoted

#12
SkyXD
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1 minute 6 downvotes is crazy rates bro

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BerLINglazer
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too many delulus

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serot
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everyone knows its bait but nobody bothers engaging with it because it is so low tier

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CringeMeister
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Ill pick all fnatic players

#11
b3rzera1
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bro ig ur dumb

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CringeMeister
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except of chr0n0cle btw

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b3rzera1
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chronicle is perfectly rated everyteam where he made deep runs , he was one of the most important pieces of the puzzle like last year he pretty much played perma senti which is not his roles and was doing better than most other top senti players

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CringeMeister
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Thats what im saying bro
botspas glazers disparaging him too much

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b3rzera1
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ahhh ok I thought u meant ok except for chronicle others are perfectly or fairly rated

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g2gcHATER
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he is the most overrated

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SENfns
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nats and leo

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b3rzera1
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yes leo is a lil overrated in goat debates but not as overrated as nats

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they're both top 10 players in their role
but there's better

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b3rzera1
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ik but like in the goat debate u can still justify leo to be top 10 but not nats imo

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botnicle

He was carried by Alfajer, Leo, Derke, Boaster and Nats for all of his career and gets the most flowers for it

Superteam merchant that was never even the best player of his own team

He is not the goat flex: f0rsaken is
He is not the most victorious player: Ethan and Sacy are more victorious

He never won the Champions trophy (lost to -31 Kiles while getting carried by +31 nAts).

In Fnatic’s best year 2023, Chronicle was the main reason they lost the World Championship, going -15 and -22 against LOUD

But they want to snuck this fraud that was fighting with Boaster for 4th best player on the team for years in Top3 all time rankings. Insane forced agenda to hype up mid

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b3rzera1
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He was rated 1.10 in lock in over alfa btw and had better stats than alfa while playing raze , breach , kayo , sage and viper all agents having drastically different approaches

He had a 1.19 rating in tokyo and was better and in a lot of different stats was better than Leo and Alfa who had their prime tourneys btw he had a higher ACS and kpr than both of them which means he wasnt the type to not take fights

Becuz he played the hardcore flex roles and almost never had truely shit games

F0rsaken being the flex goat is a good opinion but Forsaken played aggro flex roles where he was set up to succeed + he never dropped 1.10 + rating playing fucking Breach, Brim or sage
No of internationals where chron has dropped a 1.10+ rating all except champs '23(0.94) ,champs '25(1.07) and shanghai cuz nobody had rating for shanghai 💀💀💀💀💀
No of internationals where F0rsaken has dropped 1.10+ rating only 2 infact in all other internationals he is either barely above 1.0 or under 1.0

He went +14 in the final and was the best player at champs'21

Agree he should have played better btw this is his ony tournament where he had a rating of less than 1.0

Fighting with Boaster for 4th best 💀💀💀💀 more likely all the other 4 guys are fighting to be the best in the team and one somedays one is way better than the other
Forced agenda is by the BR fans who just are insecure that their region sucks and besides Aspas , Less and Cortezia they dont have any good players rn

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g2gcHATER
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botnicle!

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pztzy
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son 😭😭😭

#32
b3rzera1
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bro i just dunked on ppl who called him overrated

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pztzy
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😭😭😭😭😭😭son😭😭😭😭😭 you don't know chron like that 😭😭😭😭

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He only has boosted stats from playing in superteams, thats not impressive. He is not the x-factor, he is not the hard carry, he is just a shadow farming stats and wins because of his super teammates. Thats not GOAT behaviour, he is just the Carvajal of Valorant. Everyone knows it was Alfajer, Derke and Leo with the impactful kills.

In an FPS game you need to be the best player on your team for at least most of your career to even be considered in GOAT debates. Chronicle was not even close to being the best on his team for at least 90% of his career, how is this guy Top 3?

Alfajer was better than Chronicle in 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025. Thats almost all of VCT, why people put Alfajer below Chronicle? Same goes for Leo, the best player on Fnatic 2023, the superstar of Lockin with Derke AND Tokyo alongside Alfa.

Chronicle is a player that has 3 teammates of his ABOVE him in individual stats all time. He also played with the greatest IGL of all time calling for him. Why is he above his teammates? He is the most overrated player for sure

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XAXAX
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I think so, he is top player though, but don't be over on something..

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sw4gman
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its crynicle

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b3rzera1
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aketrps
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urango

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