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HARBOR

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#1
KiwiJuice

So it's been a while since he's been out. So far I think he's kinda worse pre nerf in one perspective which being he's never replacing Viper now. No rechargeable wall really just means Viper has become irreplaceble, if she wasn't already. The fact he only has one smoke means he will never be the primary smoker either.
So what's the use? Once again a niche secondary controller who will never be meta.

#2
delighted
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thank god I wasn't the only one that thinks that

#3
cloudberry
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Why are we still comparing Harbor to Viper? They're completely different agents who fill completely different roles. Viper is an irreplaceable agent so if that's the bar you're setting for Harbor then he's always gonna be the worst agent in the game

That being said, new Harbor sucks, he has no identity, there's no reason to pick him, like, at all

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Jayde
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There was no reason to pick harbor after skye meta except u not wanting to win

#10
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Bro the champs winners had 75% winrate with him at the event (would've been 100% if not for the 11-1 throw)

He just needed too much preparation for relatively little payoff with his old kit but the niche was there

#4
LouBag
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Saadhak will use makes comps with him on three maps

Just watch.

#6
Jinxypoo
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hes slightly better in ranked and miles worse in pro imo

#9
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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His new kit can replace Omen in many Omen-Viper comps IF it gets a straight buff

#7
Devanshhhhhh
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Harbor is just like how he was earlier the difference is now he is alot more easier to play and easy for newcomers in my opinion I think the ult change is gigantic nerf but i like the new ability they just need to buff the slow durations and maybe improve the wall this agent is gonna be fine

comparing w viper is kinda dumb tho imo but i think he has a place in the game now he is somewhat like brimstone in terms of flooding the map he can deny so much los within a second or two, i expect some play in maps like pearl, bind, haven and abyss ( many maps he will be good on like fracture, icebox and breeze are not in pool sadly)

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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The ult is only a nerf because the new audio queue is so difficult to hear, otherwise it provides almost as much info while actually being dangerous

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Harbor was never a Viper alternative; he's the initiator version of her sentinel kit, like a less extreme version of how Sova and Cypher are both info-gatherers but at different levels

The Harbor rework was a very slight buff to pro-level double controller comps that benefit more from recharging cove shields than from recharging wall smokes (but even then, removing cascade at the same time as nerfing other awp counters might be a net negative)

Problem is, for everyone else, harbor's smoke volume got cut basically in half while getting very little else to show for it. It's like how Waylay was on release, in that the actual function of their kits is good but they need the stats jacked up to be viable

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