The harbor rework...

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Makes no sense and I'm going insane

Why is his total util volume lower?

Why is the ability you want to save for late round the one that recharges, and the one you want to use at round start for info denial single-use?

Why are two casts of cascade (a scaling ability) replaced with one cast of a splash nade (a defensive ability)?

Why is cove the long-ranged support ability when it's also always been his best close-ranged mixup tool?

Why is nearsight the debuff he applies when his whole design was that he could close gaps, and now he wants to stay far away to not be visible...?

Why is cascade removed from the game?

Why is cascade removed from the game????

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beamdotdash

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people saw the omen type smoke he has now and think he can be run solo smokes, very fun! how do people not understand he has a similar role as viper

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catNmouse

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viper is a pseudo sentinel, harbor is not

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Devanshhhhhh

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he doesnt and he is not like viper i dont know why people still dont get this yes they both have wall smokes but they have completely different roles one is sentinel and a controller while the other is an initiator like controller hybrid harbor is more aggressive Viper is for reinforcement while Harbor is for Site takes and aggressiveness.

His omen type smoke okay good change but wtf one charge and sheild just goes if it gets destroyed, one wall earlier it used to get like 2-3 a round also wtf is the slow duration and they chose to gave him nearsight out of everything a debuff which got nerfed recently, Ok the ult is cool but again w shit slow timer

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themaniel

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they should let you choose between a cascade and a hightide when casting the Q

AND STOP MAKING YOUR OWN SMOKE SLOW YOUR TEAMMATES

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GarbanzoEnjoyer

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I want to add that one of my favorite plays on defense was using a cringe high tide right at round start so attackers have to cross it 2-3 times just to get into main, and threaten that I'm in there with a shotgun (icebox A, corrode B, lotus C, etc)

Now I have to either commit my only high tide cast, or use a regular smoke like any other controller

But at least I get a slow!! Thank goodness for people who never played him complaining he has no stopping power!!!!

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Devanshhhhhh

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what are u trynna prove my frnd

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GarbanzoEnjoyer

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I'm not trying to prove anything I'm just going insane because riot deleted one of my favorite agents from the game and added a new one that wears his skin

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Devanshhhhhh

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Lmao, I think he is better than before some buffs and he will be fine imo but ohh god I waited 2 years for my countrymen agent to get shit on

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GarbanzoEnjoyer

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He definitely needs a buff of some kind but I don't even know what with this approach they took

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SENfns

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i've only played harbor in double smokes comps so far
he's good on pearl if you have like omen or astra as a main smokes