Genuine questions for anti util people

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Manaphy

What specifically makes you think util is overbearing? Is it because of the map designs or do you feel like gunplay isn't enough of a factor in the game? Or is the utility simply too overwhelming to deal with?

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Bluelive

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Any util other than mine is annoying and should be removed

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util is supposed to help u get advantage in 50/50 gunfights.
not give u 90% chance to win the fight because enemy sentinel is full blind, revealed, prowled upon and being bombarded with missiles or molly

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which is why you bait them out.

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Good_ping_Bad_aim

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or have util reduced from agents to fixed values such as max 1 flash per initiator
OR have util rechargable after two kills just like raze nade or jett dash
but since initiators can't aim and kill they'll cry abt recharagable util

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nobodyknows

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or bait them out. isnt that more tactical?

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Good_ping_Bad_aim

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man there were three options.
rechargable aspect of util change
util reduced
or your way
valorant devs can't make u bait out util. they can only do the first two things and that's what they did.

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nobodyknows

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which they didn't have to

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Good_ping_Bad_aim

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then anti-util gang would cry.
change was def required, but it should've been towards the blinding flash aspect of the game, not the stuns or paranoia.

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nobodyknows

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Fair. guess devs had to cater to the cry babies.

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nooomy

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Ironic because this site and twitter are full of ppl crying without having played the patch

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nobodyknows

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I remember when players where crying over deadlock's ult before release.

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Ailed

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for me the two biggest things were

recon initiators being able to be braindead with their rechargeable
some rounds being genuinely unwinnable bc of ult economy

i like the changes to site wide ults/yoru ult and the 60 second cooldowns for scan init (although 20 seconds straight up is kind of egregious imo they shouldve started with a smaller nerf)

i think all the changes to stun duration, flash duration, and other various nerfs were unnecessary

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Well the devs have decided that valorant needs to die asap. The new patch has officially killed ranked everyone insta locking duelist and running it down and in 1 year all the player base will have moved on.

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In my opinion, as a recon/senti main, the biggest issue was pretty much only Sova, Fade, Yoru, and Omen.

Sova and Fade had too much utility, with good util usage you can get 4 darts a round. It was bullshit. The fact that you can’t actually just bait out the util early cuz it would recharge for the exec is unplayable.

Yoru had too much utility for a duelist, feels like that’s self explanatory. Way too versatile of an agent

Omen having the best initiator util (paranoia) in the game is the biggest crime of it all. No controller should have an uncountable flash, let alone initiators

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Yistyy

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i like to actually be able to hold a site without my screen being bombarded with random bullshit

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nobodyknows

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sounds like a skill issue icl

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Yistyy

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no, crutching on util cuz you suck at aiming is a skill issue

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nobodyknows

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not knowing how to play around util is a skill issue

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Yistyy

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that's the entire point. util should give you a small advantage when taking space or entering gunfights. it shouldn't be that powerful that you can't fight back.

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nobodyknows

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If you think util is so powerful that you can't fight back, then you really got to improve your skills man.

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Yistyy

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lol so i guess pro players suck then 🤣

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nobodyknows

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Against other pros yeah.

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JonahPork

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I mean there actually just isn’t any counter play, the solution is usually just to play retake. If you want to call that counter play, then sure. I would define counter play as actually just being able to hold the site but being limited in how you can fight

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youre playing site against vyse yoru fade/sova ult?

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nobodyknows

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You're tellin me, you expect 1 guy to hold down a site against 3 players? Even without util, its highly unlikely that 1 player holds down that site

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JonahPork

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The point of the sentinel role isn’t to 1v3 a site, it’s to stall long enough for rotates which simply wasn’t possible against certain comps

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nobodyknows

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In that case then yes, you can definitely hold a site even without the util nerfs.

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Langacune

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idk man do you play the game

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Manaphy

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My opinion won't be the same as everyone else's

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glittering_yard

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Pushing up my glasses. "Oh this lineup from this particular angle. Oh this composition doesn’t work in theory because this particular position of util 🤓.” YOU’RE GONNA GET SHOT IN THE FACE! YOU’RE GONNA LOSE THE ROUND! IT’S A GUN GAME! IT’S AN FPS! IF YOU WANT THAT, IF YOU WANT THAT PLAY OVERWATCH! IF YOU WANT THAT, PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS! PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME! THIS IS VALORANT YOU MOTHERFUCKER! YOU GET SHOT, YOU DIE! YOU GET SHOT, YOU DIE! YOU GET SHOT, YOU LOSE THE ROUND, YOU LOSE THE GAME! IT’S AN FPS GAME!

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Manaphy

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This quote makes it seem like util isn't that strong.

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utility should be more self effective other than initiators and controllers, too much projectiles is the problem i have