PRX abyss comp

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i'd like to see

something - jett
f0rsaken - yoru
d4v4i - viper/vyse
jinggg - omen
patmen - sova/fade

f0rsaken back on yoru as a pseudo init-duel
we will be there no matter what

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would be a nice comp but I think that something has been really comfortable on the yoru lately that it doesnt make sense to take him off it. If anything I can see them running jingg on raze instead.

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Put F0rsaken on Waylay, I think Waylay is underrated on Abyss

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hes still playing insane as jett
and f0rsaken plays yoru usually as initiator he use his flashes for setplays while something usually use it for himself

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so ur just gonna let the viper pick sit there?
and OMEN over astra????

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jinggg cant play any other controller and if its neon or waylay surely its f0rsaken playing them

its better than using him on sage

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sage is getting buffed in champs patch

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vyse is still more useful since she has flash, solo sage wont work very well without other senti

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sage is actually kinda decent with vyse. Because of the long rotation times, sage's stall (slow orb + wall) can be very useful, plus she can get some nasty angles down sightlines.
I'd much rather have something on yoru, jingg on sage, f0rsaken on astra, d4v4i on vyse (vyse is super good for holding a site too), and patmen on sova (please no fade).
Honestly even jingg on omen for double controller. Just you MUST have an astra otherwise ur team will be suffering while ur sorry omen character has to run 5 seconds just to smoke off the choke by which time the enemy is already in the site.

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its prx, they will run double duelist for sure

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yeah well alecks isn't dumb he understands that astra is almost a must pick on this map. The only way to run omen is if Jingg is always in mid and smoking off either site from mid, but that's a really weird playstyle and also super easy to read.

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aggressive omen isnt very easy to read

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... aggressive omen down mid EVERY ROUND is easy to read wdym. You can't be smoking both sites from one site (b doesn't reach a, a doesn't reach b, not even close), so u HAVE to play mid every round. Just put a chamber in mid and u can shut down the omen every round. Plus get rid of their only smokes since they're playing unsafe/down mid. U should stay back if u are solo controller.

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I just think they get way more value out of yoru if something is on it, especially on a big map like abyss where you NEED to op and can pivot instantly after a pick.

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I feel like it could be Jett (something), Sova (Patmen), Omen (Jinggg), Astra (F0rsaken), Vyse (D4v41). Something could have a Yoru pick but with all the places that you can drop off, TP line-ups have to be precise. I can see an opportunity for double duelist but it is very risky on a map like this since there are many ways you can easily drop off.

Whilst the thread is theorising comps, I can easily see PRX floating this map since they have an Ascent comp that they have a bit of faith in and they have more flexibility and viability with a Corrode comp based on what has worked for other teams. PRX did use that one-off comp against DRX last year with Neon, Phoenix, Breach, KAYO, Omen, but it must have been a very inconsistent comp if they never replayed that map again.

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absolutely not. PLEASE for the love of god do not pick omen over astra. Omen's range isn't even enough for the whole map on abyss, and it's just worse. F0rsaken is an amazing astra player, get him off yoru, put something on yoru, put jingg on like jett or maybe keep him on omen. and there is NO REASON that u should be putting ANYONE on viper on abyss. It sucks on abyss, period end of sentence. Her wall is useless, because the map is just too damn big.

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i know f0rsaken love yoru and was best at it in past but right now something is top 3 yoru player in vct

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Just take their pearl comp. Sage could be a viable second senti tho so maybe swap raze for sage

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yeah no phoenix please. the wall has no use on abyss

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if they run double senti for sure its sage and vyse together

solo sage just never works

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something Yoru
f0rsaken waylay
Jingg Omen
Patmen Sova
D4v41 Astra/Sentinel

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i mean u need an astra over an omen, but then u would have no sentinel. Why are u so insistent with double duelist? It won't work with jingg's limited controller playing.

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waylay seems insane on the map and sentinelless unironically is probably pretty good

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tbf there's not a lot of chokes to watch, I just thought chamber would be good for someone with good aim.

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Waylay double smokes does basically everything Jett and Chamber do slightly better on Abyss cuz of how you attack and what she enables on the defense.

Normally you can't fight for attacker nest on B.

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this is not that a good comps for them.

It's better to let something either play Yoru/Jett. And just put F0rsaken as Astra

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and what jinggg will be playing? sage with vyse?

doubt prx running double senti unless its ascent

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jingg sage d4v4i vyse is a viable comp. it makes sense, strategy wise. For a team to successfully run solo-omen smokes on ascent, they need to be running it down EVERY round. That's super easy to prep against. It may work once, but it won't work all the time because abyss is a super open map. Running it down with w gaming works on almost every map, but abyss is like the only one it doesn't work on.

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drx played with solo controller omen and they were a good abyss team. its viable and its pacific playstyle afterall to use omen as an aggresive 2nd entry

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drx's comp had some bad weaknesses. They got taken to 24 rounds vs vitality's abyss comp (and vitality was bad on abyss). Pacific playstyle don't mean anything IF he has a perfectly good (amazing) astra player in f0rsaken.

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drx was clearly the best team in abyss in champs 2024 🗿in current meta its more like jett is the one replaceable for yoru , astra not so much but some teams still play solo omen

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bring back mindfreaky for astra

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f0rsaken and davai both have experience on astra

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i think vyse is required and i dont see a world where double duelist works on abyss so jinggg might get scoffed

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how would you know if vyse is required we haven't seen a single pro game when abyss was in the map pool and vyse was in the game