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It's been a while since we last saw abyss in the map pool. What do we think teams will run? I think most teams will run:

Yoru
Sova
Astra
Cypher
Kayo

I swear on oness' soul at least one team will run this comp

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BOOM's Abyss comp was interesting they played Clove

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Jayde

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clove isnt viable in pro play, especially on a map as big as abyss

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CasperLuna

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They played Clove as a pseudo duelist

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Jayde

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that just doesnt work, no duelist makes no sense and theres better options than clove

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CasperLuna

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They still had a duelist
https://www.vlr.gg/399739/riddle-order-vs-boom-esports-champions-tour-2024-pacific-ascension-lr4/?game=183558&tab=overview

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temi

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So just clove instead of Astra for double controller

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CasperLuna

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Yes, it'd be pretty cool if another team tried this comp again

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Jayde

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astra is miles better.

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temi

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True but a lot of people aren’t comfy on astra

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VERY true. The first month I played astra, I found her astral plane to be super annoying, placing stars took forever. Playing astra takes a LOT of time and practice. But, in pro play, astra will probably show up. Astra is by FAR the best smoker on this map, really every other smoker sucks compared to her, but she's hard to play, so for lower ranks omen will probably be common. Though u really only need one controller on this map, not that many places to watch.

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Jayde

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hear me out, jett, yoru, sova, astra, cypher

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dimmed

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I thought about that but some teams don't have the ability to run double duelist and even for the ones who do their yoru player is usually also their jett. I have terrible ball knowledge on CN but for the rest of the regions, only like TH, SEN, MIBR, TL, T1, RRQ, PRX (only if f0rsaken feels comfortable igling from duelist).

As I was making this list I realised thats like half of champs

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Jayde

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everyone can play jett, ofc it wont be meta but its an interesting one

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jett astra sova cypher tenz

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dimmed

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not many people can tenz though

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SENfns

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i can

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delighted

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time to overcook

waylay
fade
vyse
omen
astra

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dimmed

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wait you're actually cooking with vyse here but for fade I feel like sova is just better here and I feel like this map just favors yoru so much I can't really see waylay either.

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delighted

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unless ur RRQ, waylay isn't as reliable but neon is criminally underrated

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sw4gman

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if the meta abyss comp resembles old ascent this is gonna be my most hated map

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dimmed

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nah it's unlikely for abyss to have all teams running the same comp like old ascent but some teams might run the ascent comp

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Waylay/Neon
Sova
Vyse/Chamber
Yoru
Omen/Astra

Let's have some fun at Champions.

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dimmed

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No sane team is gonna run Waylay, Chamber, Yoru but I would love to see those kinda shenanigans

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Shadow_Monarch

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You will see them. Trust.

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is kayo good on abyss?

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used to be the default fill pick when it was in the pool

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SnorlaxEnjoyer

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Vyse
Yoru
Astra/Omen
Sova/Fade
Waylay/Omen/Chamber (using both omen/chamber as a pesudo-duelist)

tbf they might even use viper u never know

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MrBlooBloom

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nah viper is doodoo on abyss, we might see it but it doesn't provide much

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SnorlaxEnjoyer

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oh yeah no Ik it's doesn't really have much use but with how much it has been played I wouldn't be surprised if a team was to pick into it

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MrBlooBloom

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geng would have played it fs but they ain't here so idrk who might tbh, the only team who is really viper pilled is fnatic but they won't play her there fs

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Galactc

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Yoru
Sova
Astra
Omen
Sage
Trust 🙌

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Jett Omen Astra Vyse Sova

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i posted an analysis of what is considered a meta comp on a different thread but
yoru, sova, astra are basically necessary for all teams because of the long rotations.
The long sightlines allow for a good chamber player to farm. However, if u have a bad chamber player, it's just harmful. So I think chamber depends team-by-team. However, on each site, there's really only two entrance points (the choke from main, and the flank from mid), so having just one chamber trip is fine, u can either watch mid with trip and hold site, or put trip on site and hold mid with chamber (which is more normal for chamber play).
The other agent varies. Generally, u want a lot of stall while ur teammates rotate to help you/prepare for quick retake, so I like kay/o with the flashes, or vyse, since her thorns can slow down, her wall slows down, and her flash can break crosshairs. Kay/o's flashes are helpful too, his knife slows down enemies because they need util to exec, etc. U really only need one smoker on this map, two smokers is both a waste and also inefficient since only really astra has global range on this absolutely massive map.
So meta comp will probably be yoru-sova-astra-vyse-kay/o if no good chamber player, yoru-sova-astra-chamber-vyse or kay/o if a good chamber player.