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Expectation for SEN TL

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ShadowisBAD

it can be anything
viewership
who wins
anything related to this game

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TL 2-0 SEN

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Sentinels dont look good but that might just be one bad game , i still believe #FULLSEN

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ShadowisBAD
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ZoldyK [#3]

Sentinels dont look good but that might just be one bad game , i still believe #FULLSEN

#FullSEN

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Aperture
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TL 2-1 SEN is my pred

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Aperture
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ciro
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Im expecting Nivera to diff dapr and L1NK to diff zombs

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ShadowisBAD
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Aperture [#5]

TL 2-1 SEN is my pred

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Aperture
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MY Pred
SEN 2-0 or 2-1 Depending on map picks

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ShadowisBAD [#4]

#FullSEN

Are you from India or Singapore ?
You change flags almost every week

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ciro
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ciro [#6]

Im expecting Nivera to diff dapr and L1NK to diff zombs

Also my prediction is
Case 1- SEN starts with the map bans first TL 2-1 SEN
Case 2- Liquid starts with bans- TL 2-0 SEN

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ShadowisBAD
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ZoldyK [#8]

Are you from India or Singapore ?
You change flags almost every week

live in india , born in singapore

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NaHiaN-SinThia
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I do very much believe on SEN ..But this is the first time I'm so much scared about Sen's performance. No worry for TenZ , he is gonna prove his worth ..

Rest of them are little bit shaky , lets hope for the best ! #FULLSEN

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ItsOnlyAGame
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ciro [#6]

Im expecting Nivera to diff dapr and L1NK to diff zombs

pretty sure L1NK and Nivera could diff every SEN player except tenz

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ShadowisBAD [#7]

MY Pred
SEN 2-0 or 2-1 Depending on map picks

what maps would lead to the 2-0 in your opinion

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Aperture
Son of Oil, Father of Sand and Causer of Arguments

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ShadowisBAD
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Aperture [#13]

what maps would lead to the 2-0 in your opinion

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Aperture
Son of Oil, Father of Sand and Causer of Arguments

well i can only say after i know the veto LOL . if Haven is banned by liquid ( likely after the guild game ) but theyre good at haven idk so , and the other maps other than ascent IF SEN FIXED their mistakes

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ShadowisBAD [#14]

well i can only say after i know the veto LOL . if Haven is banned by liquid ( likely after the guild game ) but theyre good at haven idk so , and the other maps other than ascent IF SEN FIXED their mistakes

Their haven was pretty good against KRU

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Gonna be a close match but 13-9 or 13-10 for Liquid
Liquid 2-0 Sen
Viewership won't go over 1 mil

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ShadowisBAD
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ciro [#15]

Their haven was pretty good against KRU

also i have sources discussing SEN's Icebox comp , i think i know what it is

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ciro [#15]

Their haven was pretty good against KRU

But KRU was literally running reyna on haven. KRU didnt have any unique plans or strats. Liquid played well ofc but KRU didnt look that good tho.

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Honestly a big Liquid fan from the start, but I'm going to try not to be biased.
Liquid looked dominant against KRU, but there's some experimenting, for example KAY/O on Soulcas. Hopefully the team gets used to the new comps, bc there were some questionable plays.
For Sentinels, TenZ looked kinda fired up already, hitting kinda nasty flicks and shots. They are bad on defence though, which Liquid could take advantage of.

All in all, which team respects and reads their opponent better will come out on top. I expect a banger

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Riizwan19xx [#18]

But KRU was literally running reyna on haven. KRU didnt have any unique plans or strats. Liquid played well ofc but KRU didnt look that good tho.

TL's haven has never actually been that bad. Losing first map to guild was just players starting the series slow and not hitting shots. Soulcas didnt even get a kill till like 10th round and jamppi was terrible too

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ShadowisBAD [#17]

also i have sources discussing SEN's Icebox comp , i think i know what it is

I think Liquid will ban icebox first

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ShadowisBAD
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ciro [#21]

I think Liquid will ban icebox first

its pretty even tbh.

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ShadowisBAD [#14]

well i can only say after i know the veto LOL . if Haven is banned by liquid ( likely after the guild game ) but theyre good at haven idk so , and the other maps other than ascent IF SEN FIXED their mistakes

what map is liquid not good on? lol

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ShadowisBAD
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ImpudentBeast [#23]

what map is liquid not good on? lol

bind ig by Stats tho ,

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ciro
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ImpudentBeast [#23]

what map is liquid not good on? lol

Their bind and icebox arent that good but SEN isnt that great on those either

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ShadowisBAD
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ciro [#25]

Their bind and icebox arent that good but SEN isnt that great on those either

sen are good at bind tho xD

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ShadowisBAD [#26]

sen are good at bind tho xD

They never even play on bind, god knows how good they are on it now

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Well I don't see how Sen can win the Veto because Liquid will probably ban Bind (or Icebox) and on the other maps Liquid's record with Nivera is:
Haven: 4-1
Split: 4-0
Ascent: 6-0
Icebox: 2-0
Breeze: 3-0
Fracture: 1-0
Which is a combined record of 20-1

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yoitsyannis [#28]

Well I don't see how Sen can win the Veto because Liquid will probably ban Bind (or Icebox) and on the other maps Liquid's record with Nivera is:
Haven: 4-1
Split: 4-0
Ascent: 6-0
Icebox: 2-0
Breeze: 3-0
Fracture: 1-0
Which is a combined record of 20-1

You missed bind

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ShadowisBAD
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ciro [#27]

They never even play on bind, god knows how good they are on it now

THEY Beat FNATIC on Bind tho who were considered to have the best bind in the world

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yoitsyannis
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ciro [#29]

You missed bind

no I said if they ban Bind, which I think they should do that is their record on the other maps

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ShadowisBAD [#30]

THEY Beat FNATIC on Bind tho who were considered to have the best bind in the world

Liquid beat Fnatic on bind 2 months after Iceland so their bind has improved. They still did lose bind to G2 in lcq and Acend in RB HG so I expect them to ban bind while SEN bans Icebox

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ShadowisBAD
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yoitsyannis [#28]

Well I don't see how Sen can win the Veto because Liquid will probably ban Bind (or Icebox) and on the other maps Liquid's record with Nivera is:
Haven: 4-1
Split: 4-0
Ascent: 6-0
Icebox: 2-0
Breeze: 3-0
Fracture: 1-0
Which is a combined record of 20-1

well SEN had a bad tourney so counting maps will be pointless

also its funny how u guys bring in hella stats to say Liquid is better than SEN and then u guys say if SEN beat liquid it isnt an upset

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ShadowisBAD [#33]

well SEN had a bad tourney so counting maps will be pointless

also its funny how u guys bring in hella stats to say Liquid is better than SEN and then u guys say if SEN beat liquid it isnt an upset

Liquid's form is better than SEN's by far but apart from that theyre pretty even.

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ShadowisBAD
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ciro [#34]

Liquid's form is better than SEN's by far but apart from that theyre pretty even.

HOW do we know how good sen are on the maps
Breeze
Ascent
Haven
Fracture
Bind
Split
Icebox

Breeze Ascent didnt look thesame, i dont think SEN wouldve let ascent thru without a plan

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ShadowisBAD [#33]

well SEN had a bad tourney so counting maps will be pointless

also its funny how u guys bring in hella stats to say Liquid is better than SEN and then u guys say if SEN beat liquid it isnt an upset

well because we are talking about upsets way too much. I think a lot of these games aren't upsets even if the "worse" team wins because all these teams here are good. I'm not saying that SEN is bad or something but some guy was saying that if SEN wins this veto they could 2-0 TL so I responded by showing him the stats of the maps to show you that there isn't really a way SEN can win the Veto

#37
artofsteal
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Furia is a lot better than Kru according to analysts and public opinion. It'll be a close game. On the other hand, Sick was performing quite poorly.

#38
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This will be a banger if SEN steps up. Everyone in TL looks solid rn but it was against a weak KRU. TenZ looks in good form. But I need SicK to go off. If SEN players are in form this should be the best game of the tournament.

#39
patuj
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Sentinels will win 2-1. Just my prediction even though I think Team Liquid have looked better lately. Its just my gut feeling.

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SpaceCow
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People underestimate sen a lot based on a few losses and close maps. They still are scary to play against.
Liquid is mostly dependent on raw gunplay (as evident from scream's duelist roles).
I'm rooting for liquid but sen wins in my opinion(and pickem).

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yoitsyannis [#28]

Well I don't see how Sen can win the Veto because Liquid will probably ban Bind (or Icebox) and on the other maps Liquid's record with Nivera is:
Haven: 4-1
Split: 4-0
Ascent: 6-0
Icebox: 2-0
Breeze: 3-0
Fracture: 1-0
Which is a combined record of 20-1

SEN will def try to play haven. The question is what they want to ban

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ShadowisBAD
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RickyIndian [#41]

SEN will def try to play haven. The question is what they want to ban

Ascent ? Icebox?

#43
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Team liquid will win 2-0 with zombs getting a total of 7 kills in the series

#44
ranker11
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1M+ viewership
tenz vs scream walkout
sadly SEN wins first meet (we meet again in finals)

#45
LifeIsALie
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EZ 1m+ viewership if it happens during asia evening else like 800k viewers tops
Sadly it wont be on stage due to nivera else we wud see the giga chad scream walk

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Netero
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TenZ 500 ACS

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hekzy
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ShadowisBAD [#30]

THEY Beat FNATIC on Bind tho who were considered to have the best bind in the world

7 months ago

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ShadowisBAD [#35]

HOW do we know how good sen are on the maps
Breeze
Ascent
Haven
Fracture
Bind
Split
Icebox

Breeze Ascent didnt look thesame, i dont think SEN wouldve let ascent thru without a plan

1) i doubt any NA team prepped for fracture like the EU teams.
2) Ascent and Breeze are an insta win for liquid (zombs without phantom omegalul)
3) Split is also really bad for SEN because of their stubborness with their comps. I mean Tenz and Shahzam literally only play 2 agents. Neither of which are good on split. So unless they changed their comps they are gonna get dogged hard on split.
4) Icebox is a ban from liquid.
5) bind could go either way
6) haven is the only map i can see Sentinels win convincingly

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ShadowisBAD
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hekzy [#47]

7 months ago

i really dont care

#50
zen-o
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TL 2-1
They just look really on form after Nivera joined

#51
wedqatwrtgehge
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Honestly I think SEN banned maps that they could be better on than breeze and ascent and I think they can take haven, I believe.

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wedqatwrtgehge
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SpaceCow [#40]

People underestimate sen a lot based on a few losses and close maps. They still are scary to play against.
Liquid is mostly dependent on raw gunplay (as evident from scream's duelist roles).
I'm rooting for liquid but sen wins in my opinion(and pickem).

I'm interested to see how sen counter liquids play, I noticed on ascent liquid usually sent 2/3 people up to somewhere to put pressure and the other two around the map to catch rotates and it kind of reminded me of how sen plays haven but on ascent.

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hekzy [#48]

1) i doubt any NA team prepped for fracture like the EU teams.
2) Ascent and Breeze are an insta win for liquid (zombs without phantom omegalul)
3) Split is also really bad for SEN because of their stubborness with their comps. I mean Tenz and Shahzam literally only play 2 agents. Neither of which are good on split. So unless they changed their comps they are gonna get dogged hard on split.
4) Icebox is a ban from liquid.
5) bind could go either way
6) haven is the only map i can see Sentinels win convincingly

I actually think SEN will be pretty good on fracture it's the ultimate default map and they didn't try to ban it against furia, furia banned it in the second round of bans.

#54
feaN
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Most probably Liquid will win since Liquid is the favourite but idk its Sentinels and they have tenZ that can make things messy…But if ScreaM has a good day, it would be quick 2-0. Nivera is always consistent since he joined and im a little bit worried about Jammpi and Soulcas since they are not that consistent, but lets hope at least one of them gonna have a good day. L1nk is the most consistent chad ever but people understimate him so yea.

With this i wanna say unless everybody is OFF on Liquid team, Sentinels have 0 chance

#55
AdilSexyasf
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Liquid gonna win 2:1 or 2:0 SEN is 4th in the world rn

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