well he was -5 wow

I feel like TL would first pick Breeze and I don't see why C9 would go Breeze since it's probably one of TL's best maps

well because we are talking about upsets way too much. I think a lot of these games aren't upsets even if the "worse" team wins because all these teams here are good. I'm not saying that SEN is bad or something but some guy was saying that if SEN wins this veto they could 2-0 TL so I responded by showing him the stats of the maps to show you that there isn't really a way SEN can win the Veto

no I said if they ban Bind, which I think they should do that is their record on the other maps

Well I don't see how Sen can win the Veto because Liquid will probably ban Bind (or Icebox) and on the other maps Liquid's record with Nivera is:
Haven: 4-1
Split: 4-0
Ascent: 6-0
Icebox: 2-0
Breeze: 3-0
Fracture: 1-0
Which is a combined record of 20-1

https://www.vlr.gg/event/pickem/449/valorant-champions

I would guess TL 2-0 one map is gonna be close and one map is gonna be a blowout

his knives aren't good enough for this

probably 3-1 TL

yeah well but isn't that kinda the same for CS because entry fraggers are never gonna frag as much as other roles?

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/15e97a2f

true I'm not really concerned about them, they just missed a lot of shots today, but days like these happen

If it goes to Breeze Gambit has a problem

I normally would say TL 2 - 0 Gambit
But Liquid played really bad despite the win today against Forze
sooo
I'm gonna go
TL 2 - 1 Gambit

he's just not hitting anything today

Scream is a god

how about now?

damn Liquid's attacking side is actually terrible

2-0 TL

2-0 TL, but I think the maps could be close

I think Liquid will win it all

just say that Liquid is the worlds best team

I understand your point I just don't understand the Guild pick, I don't see where they are better then Liquid, definitely not skillwise I guess you could say tactically but even then sliggy is a very good coach

I meant with Jamppi

they really are not inconsistent with liquid they have 3 losses, one against guild, one against fnatic and one against version1
So I really don't see where they are inconsistent

Liquid definitely didn't play very well but V1 just played great so give them credit

that aged very well

no Liquid?

Liquid's Ascent strats are some of the worst I have ever seen

and?

honestly I don't see how V1 has any chance here
easy 2-0 for TL

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/a4b7a6ff

average jonas pog

yes and have like some sorf of a match history with the stats for the players

ez for liquid

don't always overthink stuff, it's just content

defender sided