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what would be the better champs outcome

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#1
sw4gman

a) a team that's been consistently good for most, if not the whole, year long winning champs

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b) a mid/trash team that everyone thought would be a waste of a slot figuring it out mid tournament and going on a cinderella run to win champs

#2
Nef0r0
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a) you get a deserving winner flaw: this team is more or less likely annoying to most fans (e.g. g2)
b) you get a feelgood story flaw: this run is called a fluke

#12
TaniBoy7
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so edg's champs win was a fluke?

#15
Noodle3794
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yes

#16
Nef0r0
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I mean there were a lot of people talking shit about their run :D you never get a winner who sits well with everyone

#17
TaniBoy7
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Ofc people will talk shit about every winner, you just can't prevent it. In my eyes edg deserved the champs win, although they were ass/mid in internationals before that. They were the best team in champs end of story there is no fluke

#3
tserc
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b would be better imo, achilios said in the vct pacific 2023 champs documentary that despite the setbacks faced early in the season, winning champs might equalize if not diminish the narrative of a team being mid

the ultimate goal is champs after all

#4
Pengu12
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A team that we know can be good(either good players or consistent performances), I dont want fucking DRG to win champs and then go back to being booty

#9
askrial
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yeah cn teams are not good at being consistent after being good (trace, wolves, edg rn to an extent, blg after champs 23)

#5
tahmid2186
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everyone remembers the world cup winner, not how they qualifed/how was their run/how they were the whole 3-4 years before that
so yeah,

also our day to day life is like that - not everytime the most deserving one gets the deserving prize, it's about luck,timing,co-ordination, overworking, underworking, willpower, hard work, skill and everything.

#6
intehshdaow
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Whoever win deserves it. Why deny it? Theyre the better team at champ and that proven facts statistically and result.

#7
askrial
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this is basically asking people who they wanted to win bangkok finals

#8
dimmed
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If TL somehow don't win champs, you know its fraudulent

#10
Shadrach
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Ill be honest this cinderella run is just not the way to enjoy, a team can dominate through hard work and not just given to them (by luck or by pitty)..

Hard work deserve a paid off

#11
macncheese
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depends on how ass the team who makes a run will be, hopefully not as ass as edg was before champs 24. personally id like a consistent team, like tl or sen or prx

#13
1nshh
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so what happens if mibr somehow wins

#14
1One1
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Would be amazing if Heretic finally win after fail 2 grandfinals

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