Nats or Valyn | VLR.gg

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Keustion

Maybe im biased but its about equal right now no?

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ButterflyEffect23

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nAts no doubt

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caramel_popcorn

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what are you talking about Valyn is better

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ButterflyEffect23

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nAts clears and it's not close

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yes.

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Keustion

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When talking about all time players ofc I'll take nats but what right now at this moment separates him and valyn

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termtermtermterm

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innovative creativity and willingness to take insane risks

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229fn

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the ability to stop cranking hog and leave his own attacker spawn to hit a site

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Chi-ari

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No nAts>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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IceCreamFan

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Nats forever and it'll never be a debate

Valyn is still quite far and tbh disappointing considering his team is extremely stacked and still they haven't won a single international

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JonahPork

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Stacked by what measure? It’s been a 3v5 every international match.

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catNmouse

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bro does NOT fw jawg 😭

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adamwarlock69

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equal? lts see valyn win international first then we have him in the convo

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derths

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ofc nats > valyn

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mustafais

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avg am0ric0s fan

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catNmouse

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what comparison is this supposed to be?

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m0rtem

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even if we're talking about right now, nAts is still better

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Soverest

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Valyn better caller but nats better shooter no?

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Muratg_7

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Not the same role anyways but if we look at which one is more special in his role its nats of course

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WhzyGlazer420

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nats easily anyone who says valyn probably started watching vct in late 2024/2025. even currently nats diffs valyn every day of the week INCLUDING THURSDAYS. nats my goat

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valyn has more experience

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are you narrate word per chance?

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Cuvvvv

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igl wise
valyn has more experience
nats started igling late 2024
but im nats fan

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nats has always been an extremely vocal player, which is normal for a good senti player, and his leadership skills has literally formed liquid into a top emea team while nobody believed. valyn had shooters already around him, while nats made then players around unleash their full potential

also u saved urself with the "igl wise" cuz otherwise you would HAVE to be ragebaiting

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mongu

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igling wise valyn > nats

Everything else nats >>> valyn

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Elby56

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nats is a contender for best player of all time, valyn isn't even a contender for best player on his team

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KClaw

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I mean depends man, since they aren't like in similar kind of teams , liquid this year has thrived way more and won games where nats is playing good but valyn this year tho has been good isn't the spearhead winning point of his team so idk

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seven_glazer

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Igl wise they're both equal tbh

Mechanically nats is better

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LouBag

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I'm surprised to see this post.

Mostly because I think Valyn is wildly underrated on this site.

I think Valyn is the most valuable player in Americas.

But I would still have to say Nats, but its a lot closer than most people think.