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jieni doubters

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#1
pztzy

apologize

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faloxxl
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1.08 rating against Tyloo ?

#4
pztzy
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ok stat steven

#7
termtermtermterm
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the stat praises him its the team thats the problem 😭🙏💔🥀

#9
faloxxl
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bruh u just talked abt him like he played like prime demon1 chill out bud

#11
xSaneZ
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did you watch the match, he played extremely well and smart

#13
faloxxl
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i am NOT watching edg vs tyloo bro lmao just u can't be saying things like that after 1 match against TYLOO

#17
xSaneZ
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you're either baiting or stupid
chose which one

#18
faloxxl
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https://www.vlr.gg/player/51244/jieni7/?timespan=90d not his first match btw

#21
xSaneZ
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What's your point? He played well this match, looks like he's practiced a lot
You're trying to say he hasn't, when the proof (the match) is he did - obviously you don't have to watch it, so why have such a strong opinion

#23
faloxxl
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u can't just talk after 1 match against a sht team, at least wait 2 more matches i'm not watching those mid vs mid matches

#28
xSaneZ
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literally all I have said is he played well, I'm not the OP lmao
I'm also waiting for the next matches hoping he continues this performance
my point is the stats don't really do him justice (especially since Ascent ratings are still being calculated rn)

Also TYL is not a shit team, they are very good. You probably think this cause you don't watch CN
But this match today was of high quality

#27
PandaZ
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youre extremely biased bro it was just ONE match against a really bad team lets not get ahead of ourselves

#29
xSaneZ
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biased? All I have said is he played well today - he made smart decisions and had better aim than zjc (TODAY)
I'm not sure what else you think I'm trying to imply

And TYL is a very good team

#19
ArterieX
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Ascent rating hasnt been updated

#3
snowconedeity
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still here. justice for zjc.

#5
zephyrara
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real

#12
xSaneZ
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I mean, he just doesn't play the roles they need him to since they've finally decided to stop forcing double init

#22
zephyrara
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hfmi would fit better rolewise bro. eg on corrode he could play deadlock while smoggy plays omen, or double senti with chichoo on other maps. he can play scan too, so if nobody hops on omen which he has this year, hfmi can go sova or fade. he even gives them the option for another duelist too. he's played the kayo for them, and honestly no way he doesn't learn omen if they asked him to.

honestly zjc just keeps getting forced on breach while he's never given opportunities to take good fights because he's always stuck on util. this is why s1mon was good because his util was good enough where he could enable kangkang well enough to carry both his own and s1mons weight too. but since that bridge is burnt, they might as well instead of trying to force an old system they should just adapt to the meta and run double senti, double duelist, where zjc could shine. instead of trying to be util heavy, they really just need to be able to outaim them while having some set plays.

#24
Kaust
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Absolutely this take is what it is. Meta has shifted, yet they still try to go for the Breach heavy playstyle that no longer works. They gotta adapt.

#30
xSaneZ
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zjc was picked up in the first place because EDG were still trying to lean into the same playstyle (double init) that won them champs - this is also what fan backlash/pressure has been wanting. They've finally realised that isn't going to work anymore in this new meta and that's why he's off

They have literally tried basically what you are suggesting, in their game against Trace - zjc had the chance to play recon, moving nobody off of init - and if you watched the match you can see how terribly that worked out, I haven't seen EDG play this lost since last year vs LOUD. In the past even, any time they have tried moving nobody off of init it hasn't worked well and calling has suffered - nobody himself has said he is most comfortable calling on init too.

Because of how packed the schedule has been recently, the fact they've had far more time to practice with Jieni than with zjc, and since they still need to ensure they actually make champs - are probably the reasons why EDG decided to go back to Jieni, he was the one they practiced trying new meta comps with the most and in the past - they've also been said to have been performing really well in scrims with him. And after today's game it's evident that they look far more comfortable, and aren't just randomly wandering around the map on attack.

And don't get me wrong, I was hype af when zjc was joning the team. And he still has a lot of potential, but since they're already in the split ig they'll need more time to cook with him, Jieni also used to be a duelist main so as of now he is more flexible - that can change in the future once zjc has more time to practice the other roles though, I do want to see him shine

#31
BigJuicyyyy
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Maybe the Jieni7 allegations of him working extremely hard from the team manager were actually true after all

#32
xSaneZ
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allegations? 😭
since when was that even in doubt, I doubt they'd lie about that
all the EDG players think he's hardworking too

#33
BigJuicyyyy
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It was probably his shit performance before for me but yeah I can't blame him though and he looks way better now

#34
xSaneZ
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Yeah it's cause he used to only play duelist, it wasn't until he was in the process of joining EDG that he started learning all the other roles. I was pretty impressed he even played omen pretty well today

#6
TwistedTemp0
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s1mon better

#8
teilwal
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the only agent they shared was kayo and zjc played pretty well on it

#10
TheAceGamer30
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s1mon diffs that fraud 3000x just cus he stat pads against tyglue you think he’s any good 🤣🤣🤣 even zjc clear

#14
xSaneZ
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typical sen fan

#15
supersussyspedwin
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tyloo would mop S0N 🤣🤣 🤣🤣

#16
TheAceGamer30
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Wasn’t even the point edg made tyglue a team that could’ve beaten “the champs of 2024” 😂 isn’t that embarrassing . And isn’t Sen dubbed the China slayers. TYGLUE is a China team 🤣

#20
Warlordwibz
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"I've seen enough, bringing him back was the right choice" - Sliggy

#25
shrike-
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wow he finally wasn’t complete dogshit in a series, he’s so back 🔥

#26
sideshowsbaldhead
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smoke weed every day

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