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WE are treating both EWC the same as masters

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#1
zombzino

edit: idk why title says both ewc brainfart moment but ignore

people have been saying that EWC is a tier below Masters or on the same level of Lock in and they are both below masters. This take is dumb and doesn't make any sense. EWC had 16 teams participating, with every VCT team except for Loud having a chance of qualifying.

By design, the EWC teams are theoretically of higher quality as well, as the top 2 teams from split 1 in each region auto qualified to it.

you can complain about the format, sure whatever, but look at the playoffs and compare the quality there to masters bangkok. Fnatic, GenG, TH, Prx, SEN, are all elite teams who have been good this split and will be good next split and for champs. Meanwhile, Bangkok playoffs had Vitality, T1, EDG, and G2. T1 and Vitality are both teams that had good starts to the year but have been pretty underwhelming the rest of the year, with T1, the former masters winners, not even making Masters Toronto.

The quality of this playoffs would have only have gone up if G2 had their full roster, as they likely would've made playoffs with Leaf, further cementing the idea that the playoffs teams quality is stacked.

tldr: format being bad doesn't mean shit as playoffs was stacked regardless, and if anything this tournament has more quality teams than 1st master tournaments like bangkok and madrid

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bobosian
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so like 3 master in one year? lowk that is shit no breaks no nothing pro players are also humans they need breaks

#4
wololo___
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“im tired boss”

#5
bobosian
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i'm scared of the dark boss

#8
darklord69
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most players have literally been begging for more games, the majority of other esport tier 1 pros play more games than in valorant

#11
bobosian
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well not in the middle of the seaon? more games as in off season. after master they got to play another `so called master` in one week and after that they got stage 2 in 2-3 days ( depending where they place in ewc) at least put ewc like after champs

#16
zombzino
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Breaks are needed sure but addresses other issues that my point doesn't cover. If chronicle wins the grand finals I will be calling him a 4 time winner

#3
xineFso
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Lucknatic fans are so delusional I’m dead 😹

#6
coltyyy
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but ur team still doesn't play ewc seriously too tho.

#7
Uncleben
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I think it’s less prestigious because the ewc qualifiers allow more flukes than a 5 match group stage and then double elim playoffs. Bo1s are also dumb asf in valorant even if they work in cs.

#12
zombzino
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then how do you judge kickoff format? where LAST YEARS placements can dictate teams seeding despite their current roster. a team that did good last year with a shit roster only needs 3 consecutive wins to qualify to bangkok, which definitely allows fluke potential. The top domestic teams for EWC qualifier would have to have won 5 consecutive matches to qualify through the upper seed.

bo1s I understand are dumb, but if you judge which teams are in playoffs, i'd say most of the best teams made it (barring g2 cuz they had a sub)

#9
Warlordwibz
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EWC 21 game titles & $71 million prize pool.

EWC Valo: 16 teams $1,250,000 prize pool.
Masters Madrid & Bangkok: 8 teams $500k prize pool.

More teams + Bigger Prize pool.

#14
Wall_Bug
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Bad format and timing

#15
Warlordwibz
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exactly improve format and timing = masters level (first EWC valo year -> improve for next year)
No need to hate it and say mickey mouse and treat it less than masters.

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Wall_Bug
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"No need to hate it and say mickey mouse and treat it less than masters."
I am down to do that from next year on wards when everything will be Masters level

#10
Emperous
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i just think that the schedule is too tight for the players, since it's happening literally while stage 2 is on and masters just finished.
besides that and the awful production, i believe this tournament will be taken with more consideration throughout everyone, i believe.

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Dybala21
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I would brag a Masters trophy compare to a EWC trophy
#saynotosportwashing

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