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#1
Finchd

whats the fix for GE, they have always been on the weaker side of the region, even with this all new roster they couldnt make playoffs, what can they do , they have tried all indian rosters, mixed rosters, no indians rosters, even had monyet and texture at one point, but their rankings remained the same, why cant india produce valorant talent like other SEA countries can, val is quite popular here still no actual representation in VCT is quite a bit sad

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honestly at this point maybe GE should just withdraw and give their slot to XCLSV

jk jk i'm actually a GE superfan lol

but seriously they just need to stick with this current roster for more than one season. they keep changing everything every few months and never give any lineup time to actually develop chemistry. if they commit to these players and give them proper time, they can at least be competitive and win some matches

the talent is there, they just need consistency in their approach

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Finchd
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whats the longest they have had a single roster without changes? i havent been following them for too long

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Kinkz
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They had their orginal roster together for like 2 years. I think the problem is the start every season from scratch. They should keep the good players from the previous season and try to get upgrades for the bad ones.

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duelist: could have gotten venka as indian representation or axzys for pino rep, but we got a stage frightened teen.
the #2 and #1 ascension igl wasnt allowed to igl over a guy who could never prove himself.
india has techno venka tricky(?) skrossi (if they set him up like his current team), etc

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i started watching vct recently, how was the fan following and hype towards GE in the previous years when they had a all indian roaster, the fact that i got to know they were a indian team not from the players but the flag beside their name says a lot

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Philidor
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They had a really passionate fanbase in India. People used to tune in for the watch parties and the peak viewership during VCLSA finals and APAC LCQ used to reach very high peak viewership.
But their owners/stake holders alienated this passionate fanbase by removing the few good Indian players they had, and instead recruiting worse players just coz they were from other region. (Example, Polvi and Benkai)
To make matters worse, they said Indian players would hamper the 'competitive integrity' of the league. And funnily, they went on to lose with foreign players🤡

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Finchd
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wait, they said Indian players would hamper the 'competitive integrity'? who said this the fans from other regions or GE themselves, seems kinda racist to me

#39
Philidor
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If I remember correctly, it was the org owner that said so in one of his streams. That one statement alienated a lot of GE fans, because let's be honest, GE ain't a team which can be supported based on their performances. Most of their fans supported them coz they had Indian players.

#36
blazerno1
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2022-23 was a huge year for indian esports
rvnt godlike orangutan 💔💔 in bgmi codm valorant 💔

#5
femboyhater
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get patrickWHO back on the roster

#8
Finchd
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stage fright i think

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geduelist
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Techno and tricky
are not capable
to in VCT
weak players

Indian capable players might be

SkRossi
LF
Venka
Rawiful
Paradox(rn out of form)
Russ(half Indian caz he has OCI)
Yuvi ig (good player ngl from their Academy team)

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Kinkz
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I think yuvi is slept on cause he's not in the top teams. But he always takes advantageous duels, I like the way that guy plays. Envy also has potential.

#33
Philidor
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I have been following Envy for a few months now (since DUPG days). I think he has potential but he is very inconsistent, and his lows are far more common than his highs. From the current roster of GEA, only Yuvi seems consistently good. But he needs to be tested against better teams.

#37
seven_glazer
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did lightningfast fall off?

I think he was decent last year and had potential

#46
sextermorgan
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wdym when u say russ has OCI what does that mean

#11
Ikasw
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copy what RRQ did

#12
Anguibok
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GE have to make a roster with the leftover of SEA and Korea, no Thai player would pick GE over TLN, no KR player would GE over T1/GEN/DRX, same for PH, you can't make a competitive roster in that situation, better go full Indian bomb the 3 first year, but lets them fastly increase their level because time in Tier1 bring you level, and have a chance in 4 years

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Finchd
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ikr, even if the indian players bomb the first few years it would show the rest of the indian fan base and aspiring players that they can also reach teir 1 and i think that the main thing missing right now thats causing the Indian talent drought

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Anguibok
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Yup and todayu the best Indian player will just play against aother Indian and not progress as fast as Korean of SEA that will just access to Korean soloQ with a way better level and them better, it's a vicious circle

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Finchd
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i think ge is trying that with their academy team its just that it will take alot of time to find that level of talent in india as things currently are

#21
Anguibok
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Thats useless, their academy team have to play in India, so they can access only to the Indian scrimmingpool / soloQ

Thats not how you improve player...

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Philidor
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Yea I agree with your point. Also, the academy team doesn't even have the best Indian T2 players. I mean that's how it generally is for most acad teams, but for a region as weak as India, you need to get better players in your academy team. (Someone like Venka could easily transition to T1 if given an opportunity)

#30
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I just don't think this is true, most players will just choose the org that gives them more money. And GE has scouted good talent from these countries before like Monyet, Texture, blazeking, Udo, deryeon, papi, kelly.

#31
Anguibok
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They will also choose org that give them chance to go to international, money isnt everything, in LoL player wait to be washed before accepting NA salary
Scouting can help, but it will not be enough

#14
sameer40
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get indians to bootcamp in na or something

#16
Finchd
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i dont think a few weeks bootcamp would up their level enough to be even slightly good in apac there isnt enough hunger and talent in the scene right now

#17
Ohio
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i thought its gonna be a racist thread😭🙏

#19
Finchd
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thats the one thing i like about vlr, no politics, Indians, Pakistanis ,Bangladeshis all can come talk Valorant without thinking about whats going on between their countries also why would you click on a thread thinking it was racist 🤨 you wanted to add to it?🤨🤨🤨🤨

#27
SleepingSnorlax
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Yeah I also thought the same

#20
Red2TPower
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how to fix ge: sign optic forsaken to the roster, he will obliterate every single Valorant pro with his unreal aim

#22
Finchd
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*snap aims to the ground, that bitch ruined any hope of India having a major pc esports scene

#40
Good_ping_Bad_aim
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he actually was pretty good at fragging. it seems like he used aim assist in 4 maps tht he played during the league. )(2 cache +1 overpass and mirage) optic dissolving the entire team was uncalled for tho, because titan with kqly didn't dissolve their team and scream, rpk, shox were still allowed to play internationals

#23
Astaaaaa
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ew

#24
Finchd
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here we go, was waiting for this comment <3

#25
Astaaaaa
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nw

#26
Finchd
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why cant you be normal like others in the thread 🙏🏼

#28
the-animation
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tbh they need money. every season they make budget roasters just to survive not to qualify or winning. so atm the fix is to get a shit ton of money and get good players+coaches+management staffs.

#29
Finchd
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Genuine question ,what would you prefer GE spending a ton of money to create a wining team with mix of Korean or other sea players or GE creating a all Indian team to shut up the fans that have been begging for it, what do you think would be more financially successful, tbh having a lot of fans is just as important as wining

#38
ZANEy
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question for you why do you support that team no indian players and the owner says that indians are not good enough, at this point they are just like any other org, support someone else bruh

#43
vibemerchant_25
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wasn't there an open qualifier and no indians made it through? I mean I'd love to see more competitive indians in the sport but the environment is just ass. there's zero fucking support in general for esports

#44
Invic_Deep
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that's true but counterpoint for a team that apparently represents India we had to trial on 60+ ping on Singapore while others got ping advantage over us

#45
vibemerchant_25
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idk how important ping is in this game (i've never played on anything below 30 ms) but there's sandrock gaming from middle east in rocket league that played on eu servers till they got a region, then they smoked everyone on international in the first year they competed. so yea it's hard as fuck but in a country of billion there's no way we don't have that kind of talent

#47
ZANEy
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bro it is super important

#41
Dam1aN
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Just get real true goat Forsaken Mr. Word.exe. Ez Pz Lemon Squeezy

#42
Nilonesia
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make a damn indian/south asian roster, they lose regardless so it don't matter might as well farm impressions

#48
lilB
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just FF bro give it Australia, I've lost hope for Indian Valo scene 😞

#49
z4kr9
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You cannot make a full indian squad like its fucking braindead even if we assume they wouldn't have visa issues its braindead like if you put the top 5 indian players on the same like they will at max finish 4th in apac ascension if we assume they are consistent throughout the year and you know their org randomly doesnt run out of money . The thing is that Indian players and Indian ppl in general are notorious for being money hungry like in VCT if they get paid minimum amount like you can live like a king in the country so they wont try to win shit and be complacent and just ignore online hate . Btw if ur wondering who those players are imo they are
1)Venka (Duelist)
2)Paradox(Flex)
3)SkRossi(Senti and jett)
4)Lightningfast (Smokes)
5)Russ(IGL/Initiator)
HM:
1)Deathmaker(senti / duel / flex)
2)Rvk ( good initiator player)
3) Techno (good smokes player)
4) Yuvi(Duelist/ Senti)
Like imo unless if these exact players arent trialled and then we mix and match there cannot be an indian team which can even challenge for ascension or make it to the arena stage

#50
orixxon
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SAME WAS FOR JAPAN AND CHINA BUT LOOK AT THEM NOW
WE HAVE A BILLION PEAPLE WE CAN GIVE CHANCE TO 5 ATLEAST

#51
Finchd
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well its not like they are good with this current squad, just get a full indian team to farm impressions, what people do not understand it a full indian team isnt a team for wining its a team for finding and fueling more talent in india, to show the up and coming people that they can also be at that stage, no ambition is causing the lack of current talent, japanese teams rnt good but alteast its mostly japanese which in turn gives their tier 2 and tier 1 huge fan following in japanese audience hence bring more eyes more talent from their own country

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