Alter Ego leaving valorant (Indo Come)

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Tomatos

Berasa udah makin redup scene compe di indo semenjak partnership bareng soop soop itu

https://x.com/asteriskk6/status/1925131541782634771

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iyalah. udah mah T2 scene pre franchise bermasalah, ditambah franchise makin bermasalah, di merge dan ada s00p makin jadi masalahnya.
emg tolol si jake sin itu. region lain boleh kalo T2nya gak dapet sponsor trs viewersnya nonexistent. region kita ga boleh.

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Sebenernya menurut gw di merge sea bukan masalah besar selama sistem nya bagus sama gk ada partnership gk jelas itu. Terus berasa nge anak emasin academy team, harus nya acad team punya posisi sama kayak team lain nya biar fair lagian acad team gk masuk ascension.

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t2 kita tamat :)

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jake sin itu emg xenophobic kya ny

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goblok emamg, padahal pas di yt masih bisa tembus 5k view kalau match seru, sedangkan pas di soop tembus 100 view aja empot empotan

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regular match biasa lah bisa fluktuasi 2-5k views tp itu belum ditambah WPnya.
tp kalo udah upper final atau grand final playoffs itu bisa nembus belasan ribu semdiri di main streamnya.
keputusan yang bodoh nan egois buat matiin T2. congrats jake sin.

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padahal mah dengan format yang sekarang kalau bisa nonton di yt bakal tetep rame, tau ssndiri kan view indo kalau lawan tim luar kaya gimana

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masih tuktuk bodoh buat kita didih yippa kalo tamar 🤦‍♂️

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tuktuk

I think you got confused, we're actually talking about VCL Indo, not the presidential vehicle of Thailand. Hope this clears the misunderstanding 👍👍

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tell them to come play in India league
indo players needs to play real league with real competition

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GE 😂
tell that to your representative eSports team and idc even if you want to say that the community doesn't want GE to represent India 🤣👋

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Nah don't do dirty like that, they r real one give indo Player a chance to play, even now ex BTR player literally on India league

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o7 papa rito favoritism cooked us frfr

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Beyonder2

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It was fun while it lasted 🕊️💔(AE, BTR, ONIC)

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T2 valo in Sea is dead

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K4ziuHa

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gumbadoom mashin tung tung seralau sahur luar kaya yippao

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KaedeTsuneta

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Bro are you hacking? Stop putting our flag upside down brother

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Kitten5

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Both Alter Ego and BTR have potential like BOOM but they killed it...

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Tomatos

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We just have Todak and Arf lefts, and tbh arf not looking promising in the last matches

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Jake ngiSINg dungu sefong aja terus noh Korea Korea itu kurang apa 2 tim SEA masuk Toronto.

Udah ngarep bgt nonton AE di ascension ahhhh babiiik

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Saya toksik sekali2

udh capek2 forum komunikasi sama SOOP ujung2nya ttp gini, kerja bagus banget sumpah padahal udh tahu juara pacific ente dari indo dan host kemaren Ascension juga indo terus buat apa kita capek2 bikin forkom sama kalian kalau ujungnya begini?

ajg

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sampe skrng gw masih ga ngerti sih padahal SEA potensinya viwershipnya gede bgt, gw awal2 udah bayangin tuh wah seru nih keknya kalo di satuin, Imagine nih all of SEA into 1 league TH/Viet/ID/MYSG/PH kalo di satuin itu viewershipnya bisa skyrockets to the moon kalo di stream di Yutube ? yagasi ? But what do they do ? mereka malah matiin scene nya : ) dengan partner sama SOOP yg AVERAGES viewsnya aja ga nyampe 300 per match.

Riot treating Tier 2 SEA like that one plant you forgot to water for six months but still act surprised when it dies. Truly groundbreaking management :)

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ItsMeDio

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riot bgst pengen ngomong kotor ke jake sin itu juga

bangsat matiin sea valorant parah

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https://i.imgur.com/qVocmJ2.png stated the same 🤷‍♂️

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SleepyBear

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yoo we need to do something no ? buat viral atau apa gitu, Sumpah influencer + Player SEA harus speak up rame2 cuz our scene is slowly dying mad in fact is already dead, soalnya Riot ngentod ini kalo gak ada yang speak up dan gak viral gak bakal dikerjain Ajg

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Gw sih uda gk nonton team kr+jp y unless mreka lawan tim sea. at the end of the day viewership itu yg jd itungan mreka buat jualan. bukan ny mau rasis tpi kita2 dri sea yg nonton smua match vct for the love of the game nyata ny cuma jdi afterthought ny riot.

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Jayanth

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anyone willing to give an english tldr as to why they're leaving cause they are a pretty important t2 team in apac

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SleepyBear

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SOOP = no watch party = no hype = no views = no sponsor = burning money = no money = indo valorant die

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Not just Indo scene, but SEA region T2/T3 Val is dying

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My guess is AE don't want to pay players till 2026 Split 1?

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aw man i remember Alter Ego as one of the og org of sea valorant

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triileaf

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At least we have j0ke s0n to compete with le0 f0ri0

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Dari awal udh kontradiktif, katanya mau digabung jadi satu liga biar semua region pada nonton, blom 3 bulan udh dapet exclusive sponsor sama SOOP. Belom juga kegoblokan riot gabungin vietnam sama mongolia ke satu liga, dimana masalah ping-nya jadi salah satu faktor.

Sebenarnya gua gpp pas riot announce kalau mereka mau buat jadi satu liga, kalau emang yang megang becus ajg. Yang gua tau kalau ngeliatin T2 NA gua udh tau mereka mah seneng seneng aja, karena semuanya dipegang soop + dibayar sama mereka. Yang penting duid duid duid.

Kontol.

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Tomatos

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Taek emang, mereka ke bener bener gk niat buat ngembangin sea

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Riot needs money to run VCT SEA since the region lacks stable viewership and income, unlike Japan, China, or Korea. That’s why they partnered with soop. Remember, riot runs their tours without third-party organizers, and they also laid off workers in 2024. SEA has always been a challenge for riot, even since League. And for Valorant fans, League’s viewership in regions like LPL, LCK, LEC, LCS, or even their T2 leagues (CL) still doubles SEA’s Val + League numbers, Just wanted to let you guys know

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SoeDj

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Riot doesn't ever receive money from Soop

https://x.com/RiotJaker/status/1879436800437133504

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Then why did they give streaming rights to soop and cause 80% of the top tier 2 scene to disband?

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KaedeTsuneta

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Because Jake S0n have monkey brain

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SoeDj

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Right, everyone is confused about Riot's decision, a lot of streamers don't even want to move to Soop. SEA viewers are so niche, so a move from YouTube to Soop is a big deal

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Bro just straight up lie LMAO. Indo and Thai VCT viewership pre SOOP mogs KR to shit.

Also if you WANT viewership, merging SEA is a good thing because we hate each other and all matches gonna be big, viewership will SKYROCKET.

BUT WHAT DID THEY DO? KILLING IT BY GIVING EXCLUSIVITY TO SOOP

So do they want big viewership or not? They want viewership but they decided to kill all hype and and views. There are no excuses, Jake Sin is literally a mega retard (not even ableist, he literally is please test his IQ).

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KaedeTsuneta

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the region lacks stable viewership and income

Jake S0n solution : Let's give the broadcast to SOOP, and no warchparty so we turn the 20k+ views from ID and TH alone (moggs the entire KR btw) into <300 views letsgoooo we solve the viewership problem!!

Oh also no views means no sponsors means no money. Let's gooo we solve the income problems too!!

Literally 20 IQ moment, why are you even here brother you need to have an IQ check.

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Blud sneke Korea to talk abt val income & views lol sybau pacific studio is max 50 ppl and that shit doesn't even full most of the time, Bro really brought up League viewership to talk about SEA Valorant like SYBAU fucking dumbass SEA doesnt play League and u comparing to korea,china like shit doesn't even relate & make sense. we playing the better game out here (Dota btw), not waking up to watch LCK drafts for 30 mins straight Ain’t nobody in SEA waking up to watch LEC or LCK dumbass.

dont mix up thing buddy, league is league val is val. And u wanna talk numbers? lmfaoo VCT Vietnam alone clears Kr Valorant viewership and guess what? Vietnam doesn’t even have an official VCT team and they STILL cooking. Thats how strong the scene is u dumbass doesn't know what u talking about so SYBAU lil bro

edit : must be the funniest joke i seen today

the region lacks stable viewership and income 😂😂😂😂

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if the problem was viewership, Indo, Thai, and Vietnam got lots of them. and quite stable. Thai could reach 8k ish and both indo and vietnam could reach 4-5k in regular matches. not to mention that doesn't include a lot of watchparties for different language and region.
if the problem was sponsorship, i agree that SEA should be merged as one. there are also options like not streaming sponsorless countries like MYSG, PH, HKTW(?), but i guess that is unfair for them.
but we're beyond those thing now. S00P didn't pay pacific higher ups anything, viewership are the worst ever, and teams and orgs are disbanding their val roster left and right.
you think this was a correct decision from jakesin and riot? remember, they DON'T get money from S00P.

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dumbass the only reason riot partnered with soop is because they want to bring SEA viewership to soop platform. they have korean corps partnership and wants to monopoly SEA scene. It's a business policy, that's the reason why SOOP didn't pay riot, riot wants an organizers that can run stuff for them.

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Gara2 jake sin peler tier 2 vcl sea malah eksklusif di S00P tolol. Gimana mau naikin view