meteor is not a top5 player and potentially not a top10 player of all time. he has not set a precedent for how an agent or role should be played, his two trophies are close to each other showing that he has not had long-term success, he has only been in the top tier since early 2023, and he did not play well for one of the trophies he "earned."
compare this to an easy top5 player such as Yay who carried his team to a trophy, set the record on how to play strong agents such as Chamber and also made multiple finals.
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meteor is not a top5 player and potentially not a top10 player of all time. he has not set a precedent for how an agent or role should be played, his two trophies are close to each other showing that he has not had long-term success, he has only been in the top tier since early 2023, and he did not play well for one of the trophies he "earned."
compare this to an easy top5 player such as Yay who carried his team to a trophy, set the record on how to play strong agents such as Chamber and also made multiple finals.
thatpower [#2]0/8 the yay part made it too obvious
Yay is the Leo of NA, an insane talent who revolutionized the game and players look up to. People love to hate on him because he got contractually screwed by C9 which would've mentally boomed any player, but it's clear he has had the highest skill ceiling of all time on top of being a trophy holder and showing insane form bringing his team to multiple finals.
thatpower [#8]only thing y0y clears triple whopper from burger king
Fake flagger detected, shameful kid.
thatpower [#8]only thing y0y clears triple whopper from burger king
resorting to racism because I made a good point is not very nice
RzqoFoxie [#11]Meteor is easily a top 5 player. Carried his team to 2 trophies
if meteor carried in bangkok starxo carried in champs 2021
yeah don't think you'd agree to that one, because it's not true.
the narrative that meteor carried in bangkok is created around a false sense of "clutch factor" that existed for 1/5 maps he played in the finals (he was horrible 3/5 just keep that in mind) and was down to luck more than anything.
revokeshoots [#12]if meteor carried in bangkok starxo carried in champs 2021
yeah don't think you'd agree to that one, because it's not true.
the narrative that meteor carried in bangkok is created around a false sense of "clutch factor" that existed for 1/5 maps he played in the finals (he was horrible 3/5 just keep that in mind) and was down to luck more than anything.
He was only horrible on abyss
also he quite literally carried the team in the bangkok finals, easily the best performing player on his team with 18 first kills and 13 fds
revokeshoots [#12]if meteor carried in bangkok starxo carried in champs 2021
yeah don't think you'd agree to that one, because it's not true.
the narrative that meteor carried in bangkok is created around a false sense of "clutch factor" that existed for 1/5 maps he played in the finals (he was horrible 3/5 just keep that in mind) and was down to luck more than anything.
Cool story bro :)
RzqoFoxie [#11]Meteor is easily a top 5 player. Carried his team to 2 trophies
'Carried his team to two trophies'. Funniest joke ever told by you lol.
He for sure was geng best player in Shanghai but texture was equally good too. And munchkin calling was supreme.
As for Bangkok izu was easily t1 best player. Before finals he wasn't even their 2nd best player. And if you are talking about finals only stax was as impactful as meteor.
catNmouse [#13]He was only horrible on abyss
also he quite literally carried the team in the bangkok finals, easily the best performing player on his team with 18 first kills and 13 fds
yeah he did great on lotus
https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf/?game=202792&tab=overview
and great for a duelist on haven too
https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf/?game=202793&tab=overview
Ryandr [#15]'Carried his team to two trophies'. Funniest joke ever told by you lol.
He for sure was geng best player in Shanghai but texture was equally good too. And munchkin calling was supreme.
As for Bangkok izu was easily t1 best player. Before finals he wasn't even their 2nd best player. And if you are talking about finals only stax was as impactful as meteor.
Yeah i agree izu should’ve gotten MVP but it seems like it only goes to the player who performed the best in the finals
SleepingSnorlax [#16]Meteor is not a bad player it is autumn who is fraudulent
I never said meteor was bad, but people on vlr love misconstruing simple comments and opinions.
catNmouse [#18]Yeah i agree izu should’ve gotten MVP but it seems like it only goes to the player who performed the best in the finals
Yeah same happened in champs too. Kk got it for his final performance. Otherwise chichoo was the best player.
revokeshoots [#17]yeah he did great on lotus
https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf/?game=202792&tab=overview
and great for a duelist on haven too
https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf/?game=202793&tab=overview
yeah he did fine on haven idk why you are acting like that’s a horrible performance
loapoarg [#22]He is the GOAT icl that TH game in Champs proves that
76 kills in bo3 while losing is just GOAT status
They would have won Champs had they won that game
If my grandma had tyres she would be a motorcycle.
loapoarg [#22]He is the GOAT icl that TH game in Champs proves that
76 kills in bo3 while losing is just GOAT status
They would have won Champs had they won that game
no one can be the GOAT for losing a game, if he was truly good and dropped 76 kills in that bo3 and still lost that means he didn't do good enough
Twentytwo [#27]So name me your top 5/10 you'd put above him. Keep in mind the 2 trophies and both mvps
one fraudulent MVP*
yay, derke, aspas, leo, chronicle easily
revokeshoots [#28]one fraudulent MVP*
yay, derke, aspas, leo, chronicle easily
Yay top 5? Could've had tenz or sacy but choose yay?. I give you meteor not being top 5 but putting yay there is just straight overglaze
Kinkz [#5]meteor is not a top5 player and potentially not a top10 player of all time. he has not set a precedent for how an agent or role should be played, his two trophies are close to each other showing that he has not had long-term success, he has only been in the top tier since early 2023, and he did not play well for one of the trophies he "earned."
compare this to an easy top5 player such as Yay who carried his team to a trophy, set the record on how to play strong agents such as Chamber and also made multiple finals.
Somehow this has developed into a serious discussion so here's my take: Meteor is appreciated a lot for his ability to shoot well, which is somewhat indicated by the ADR stat.
Sure, I can agree that right now, he's not playing the same as he was when they won't Shanghai, but, it's a different team and I feel the individual performance level is not THAT different. (This can be confirmed by checking his ADR stats for this year which I'm sure would be pretty good).
He also HAS set a precedent for playing sentinels aggressively, by taking aggressive timings and buying more space for the team on lurks.
bagooska [#33]y0y isnt even a top 50 player all time he is a tier 2 nobody
nice cope, yay is a player who revolutionized the game you love
revokeshoots [#17]yeah he did great on lotus
https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf/?game=202792&tab=overview
and great for a duelist on haven too
https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf/?game=202793&tab=overview
Let me make a post after looking at the stats without watching the match or knowing what impact frags are 🤓☝🏽
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