Spanish league ???

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Mortadelo

Let me get this straight, if you ask most people who follow tier 2 the Spanish league is not one of the best, Turkey is obviously miles ahead, East, Dach France.

Yet out of rookies 10 being picked up mid season 7 players come out of Spain

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baroque

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i'm confused which league picked up 10 people mid season

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Mortadelo

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EMEA VCT
Serial Monster BaddyG Ara Flickless Tag SimonDark from Spain
cyvoph Veqaj from France
comeback from Turkey

Even if you count not only rookies natank from France and grubinho from Spain.
Those are the 12 roster moves made after the start of the season in EMEA without counting whatever going on with BBL's stand ins

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baroque

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i didn't know half of these players were on vct teams this must be new (besides comeback, gx duo, cyvoph)

is the acend core the ones going to koi?

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Mortadelo

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Yeah KOI replaced the coaching staff with simoz from DNSTY and he brought BaddyG with him. And then they promoted Monster from the academy and signed Natank from Lev.

But yeah there's connections all around

Monster and BaddyG played together in Acend
BaddyG comes from DNSTY like simoz
BaddyG played with natank in VIT
simoz played with Filu last year in DNSTY

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Tyekai

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I mean as far as KOI goes, they are a Spanish org
So finding Spanish players when possible makes sense, especially when they're season is this far gone already

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Mortadelo

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Well that's the funniest part, none of them are actually spanish xD

The players that do fit that category are Monster because he comes from KOI Academy and Ara/Flickless because UCAM is partnered with GX, but the rest are really random. Tag and SimonDark to Apeks is weird af. TL has an insane academy and they come to Spain instead for Serial

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Weagle

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most of the "spanish" players you're talking about were in a different regional league last year

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Mortadelo

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None of them are "spanish" I'm talking about the league not the nationality. I could call it by it's actual name but if I say LVP Rising people don't know what I'm talking about xD

And those players were not picked up last year, they were picked up right now for some reason and they were all playing in the Rising

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islaaa

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wait simonD4rk is being picked up ?

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Mortadelo

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Yeah Apeks new roster is

SimonDark
Molsi
Batujnax
Avova
Tag

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islaaa

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oh they're cooking

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z12

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yeah but they are usually kinda shit so

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Mortadelo

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Not saying the league deserves to be ranked up higher. And as you say is not like these players are insane or something
So tbh I'm just kind of confused which is why I'm posting it

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z12

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spain has some good talent like krejz still and i hope teams pick them up like the kpi team last year had insane talent and i think teams need to pick up the better players like simond4rk is quite good

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Mortadelo

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Yeah krejz will make VCT soon too he is really good

#5

theiceman

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I think u can make an argument spanish is the second best league especially this year

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Mortadelo

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Well we haven't proven it at all at past years in Ascension nor this year at the EMEA Challengers so I understand if people don't think so

Also kind of hard to be if anytime a player is half good he gets snatched away xD

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theiceman

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The thing about Spain for me is that none of the teams are really bad like the 10 teams are good at least on paper while a league like dach for example has only 4 teams so Spain is probably the most competitive league imo

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Mortadelo

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That I actually do agree with, it's extremely deep. That's probably due to the merger with Italy and Portugal, didn't improve the top teams but the depth quality

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Congo1

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no. you absoluetly can fucking not. It would be a ludicrous argument.

Turkey is in a different galaxy. Germany is much much better. France is also better.

Best they can hope right now is to beat North east but im not sure i would pred them there either even before their players left.

Best you can argue is they beat MENA.

Spain has never shown anything in T2. Their teams are just bad. The players that were promoted are decent but the deciding factor is either connections or convenience. Only the serial pick has been solely on merit alone.

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Mortadelo

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Only the serial pick has been solely on merit alone.

Where do the Tag and Simondark pickups come from then

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z12

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tag is just a stand in he prolly forgot about simond4rk

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Congo1

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simondark i will give you. he had a great split

but tag is like 15th in his position in T2.... its the same apeks madness that made them sign governor.

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Mortadelo

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I think you're misunderstanding my point. You think I'm trying to say the Spanish league is underrated, I'm not. #6 is what I mean

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theiceman

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Bro just because they don't do well compared to other leagues so far doesn't mean the league is not competitive and has lots of good players at least on paper
For example apeks was destroying every team last year that doesn't make polaris a good league just because they have one good team
Iam not saying Spain is the best I just think the league is underrated atleast in that aspect and that's my opinion

#13

Galactc

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Spain is goated just believe

#15

Gutssz

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Because Turkish league average age not even 18 xdxd

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Mortadelo

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Picking up a turk mid season is complicated for a lot of reasons I do understand that. But Spain's not the second best league either what about EAST DACH? Nobody looking there?

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Congo1

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Dach teams actually strongly believe they can ascend and try to be protective over their players (CGN, Fokus). Also you have the factor of academy transfers (koi) and affiliate swaps (Giants) boosting numbers.

Cyvoph and veqaj already got called up without affiliate or Acad connections. And the other best players in the league are locked in by KCorp. Unless they call them up they have them in contract prison.

The best players in Northeast are either russian with visa issues (razziss) or underage (quickz, chaza, wanzeru, krizz, GSR).

Mena is a different universe nobody watches untill their combined playoffs. Also just weaker on average.

Turkey of course have visa issues like the russians. Now however would be the ideal time to sign some turks. May still be some risk attached to it.