FNC win Toronto ?

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FNC has highest chance to win toronto after Tejo nerf dont you guys think

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Red2TPower
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I thought Tejo nerfs are not happening in toronto. am I tweaking?

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Zelestia
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Fraudmea isn't winning anything.

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Neuronium
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FNATIC will not win Toronto my guy

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sentinelmain377
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Red2TPower [#2]

I thought Tejo nerfs are not happening in toronto. am I tweaking?

they prob happen
toronto is far away (a month+)

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Hynix
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Red2TPower [#2]

I thought Tejo nerfs are not happening in toronto. am I tweaking?

either way EMEA 5% chance at most

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fr0ster0p
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Red2TPower [#2]

I thought Tejo nerfs are not happening in toronto. am I tweaking?

tejo nerf and +sunset - fracture that's is toronto patch

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Red2TPower [#2]

I thought Tejo nerfs are not happening in toronto. am I tweaking?

they do, sunset is also in

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Hynix [#6]

either way EMEA 5% chance at most

2nd VCT international tournament of year stats (from 2021-2024):
appearances:

  • EMEA: 4 (Gambit, Fpx(EU), Fnatic, Team Heretics)
  • PAC: 2 (Paper Rex, Gen.G)
  • AMER: 2 (Envy, Evil Geniuses)

trophies:

  • EMEA: 3 (Gambit, Fpx(EU), Fnatic)
  • PAC: 1 (Gen.G)
  • AMER: 0

so definitely not 5% (more than that)

however, there is also the fact that EMEA gets 2 less weeks than AMER and CN and 1 less week than PAC (rigged). so maybe 5% = true.

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fr0ster0p
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FNC run old meta comp which will be more good after tejo nerf and they are still doing good with their old meta comp yesterday also

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lakpx
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other team from the same region literally has better chance

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sentinelmain377
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no.
G2 wins 99%

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Neuronium [#4]

FNATIC will not win Toronto my guy

so who is wining GenG ?

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sentinelmain377 [#9]

2nd VCT international tournament of year stats (from 2021-2024):
appearances:

  • EMEA: 4 (Gambit, Fpx(EU), Fnatic, Team Heretics)
  • PAC: 2 (Paper Rex, Gen.G)
  • AMER: 2 (Envy, Evil Geniuses)

trophies:

  • EMEA: 3 (Gambit, Fpx(EU), Fnatic)
  • PAC: 1 (Gen.G)
  • AMER: 0

so definitely not 5% (more than that)

however, there is also the fact that EMEA gets 2 less weeks than AMER and CN and 1 less week than PAC (rigged). so maybe 5% = true.

indeed its logically more than 5% BUT consider i dont like any of the EMEA teams except VIT so 5%=true

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fr0ster0p [#13]

so who is wining GenG ?

G2 are the favourites. TH looks good. The Pacific teams are just a toss-up

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sentinelmain377 [#9]

2nd VCT international tournament of year stats (from 2021-2024):
appearances:

  • EMEA: 4 (Gambit, Fpx(EU), Fnatic, Team Heretics)
  • PAC: 2 (Paper Rex, Gen.G)
  • AMER: 2 (Envy, Evil Geniuses)

trophies:

  • EMEA: 3 (Gambit, Fpx(EU), Fnatic)
  • PAC: 1 (Gen.G)
  • AMER: 0

so definitely not 5% (more than that)

however, there is also the fact that EMEA gets 2 less weeks than AMER and CN and 1 less week than PAC (rigged). so maybe 5% = true.

LOUD

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i think TH are in a crazy spot to win toronto, their worst map is leaving for historically their best map, they already only use tejo on lotus icebox, icebox is an easy swap for gecko to go back to their champs comp and so they only have to rework lotus and sunset. they are already leaning heavy into double duelist on a bunch of maps and its been frying, i think the only thing that might fuck them is they dont really have someone to play a second senti and i think double senti might be meta once tejo dies.

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Hynix [#6]

either way EMEA 5% chance at most

TH clears all Poopac teams.

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It's hard to trust FNC imo, they haven't been able to reach any great heights since 2023. The internationals they've been attended since then have produced disappointing results. Their individuals have been hot and cold this season which isn't a great sign. TH are in a better spot with their only downside being Benjy not in form.

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HIMNIJ [#17]

i think TH are in a crazy spot to win toronto, their worst map is leaving for historically their best map, they already only use tejo on lotus icebox, icebox is an easy swap for gecko to go back to their champs comp and so they only have to rework lotus and sunset. they are already leaning heavy into double duelist on a bunch of maps and its been frying, i think the only thing that might fuck them is they dont really have someone to play a second senti and i think double senti might be meta once tejo dies.

so TL has good chance if they are in toronto cause they have played double senti comp and looking good

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Hynix [#14]

indeed its logically more than 5% BUT consider i dont like any of the EMEA teams except VIT so 5%=true

what chance do you give VIT to make to toronto

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sentinelmain377 [#12]

no.
G2 wins 99%

T1 is that one percent
Wait a second..

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fr0ster0p [#20]

so TL has good chance if they are in toronto cause they have played double senti comp and looking good

yea but they do play tejo with both their double senti comps, although not that much tejo in general compared to other regions, i just think TH are in better form and have a higher peak, and the map rotations should favour TH more cause TL like fracture and idk when nats started igling but has he ever called on sunset before?

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fr0ster0p [#21]

what chance do you give VIT to make to toronto

like 10% lol they r ass rn

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Zelestia [#3]

Fraudmea isn't winning anything.

0 stars with 5k post congrats little shit

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JeremieFrimpong [#25]

0 stars with 5k post congrats little shit

This is what rage baiting does to a man

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fr0ster0p
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JeremieFrimpong [#25]

0 stars with 5k post congrats little shit

how does star system work

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charleser [#19]

It's hard to trust FNC imo, they haven't been able to reach any great heights since 2023. The internationals they've been attended since then have produced disappointing results. Their individuals have been hot and cold this season which isn't a great sign. TH are in a better spot with their only downside being Benjy not in form.

I'd argue their 2024 season was good for any other team not named Fnatic
They placed 3-4th in Kickoff barely missing out on Madrid
They won both splits of EMEA when Heretics was the team to beat that year
They flamed out in Shanghai playoffs but stuff like that happens, they still took eventual winners to a close series
And they made champs and placed 5th/6th
Overall a good year
It just so happens that we are comparing them to the best season for a team and they have the legacy to suggest that we should be expecting more from them

But their 2024 season was a great one for any team not named FNATIC

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fr0ster0p [#27]

how does star system work

If you get so much downvote your star will not increase

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Lyxium [#22]

T1 is that one percent
Wait a second..

TH has 1% chance

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HIMNIJ [#23]

yea but they do play tejo with both their double senti comps, although not that much tejo in general compared to other regions, i just think TH are in better form and have a higher peak, and the map rotations should favour TH more cause TL like fracture and idk when nats started igling but has he ever called on sunset before?

they still have perma ban Pearl

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