Who in your opinion achieved the biggest downfall?
I think yay/zeek
zeek hands down. he was champs mvp and now he is struggling in tier 10. yay is a solid role player in tier 1.
Cnerd. Kicked out of a turkish roster and BBL going international so they dont have to pick him up.
yay went from the best player in the world to shitting the bed in tier 2
only because of his impact on optic has he managed to continue getting spots on rosters but if he doesn’t start performing better i don’t think it’ll last much longer, gotta step it up in split 1
Yay, Marved, Crashies, Victor, FNS, Chet
Ethan, Demon1, C0M, Boostio
Zeek, Shao, ardiis, Cned, Tenz(2022-2023)
kuruk [#4]pre 2024 it was tenz
still am mad about madrid to this day
You basically said that you’re in denial for his win without saying it and proceed to say he fell off 🧠☠️
Rita-nae [#8]You basically said that you’re in denial for his win without saying it and proceed to say he fell off 🧠☠️
i said before he won he had the biggest fall off and then said i was mad that he won i didnt deny it
vlr brain
Yistyy [#3]zeek hands down. he was champs mvp and now he is struggling in tier 10. yay is a solid role player in tier 1.
qualified for ascension soooo idk about struggling in tier 10
played for the greatest tier 2 team ever too
yay reached MUCH lower levels (relegation from tier 2 with an expensive ass team that started 2-3 without him is crazy) but to be fair yay never did reach the heights that zeek did, that being champs mvp
i mean all he won was a masters 1 and he couldnt even win mvp over icecreamman marved xDDDD. so i can see how one would say zeek
glittering_yard [#7]Yay, Marved, Crashies, Victor, FNS, Chet
Ethan, Demon1, C0M, Boostio
Zeek, Shao, ardiis, Cned, Tenz(2022-2023)
chet was never good he just had the best roster at the time
kfan4238173 [#10]qualified for ascension soooo idk about struggling in tier 10
played for the greatest tier 2 team ever tooyay reached MUCH lower levels (relegation from tier 2 with an expensive ass team that started 2-3 without him is crazy) but to be fair yay never did reach the heights that zeek did, that being champs mvp
i mean all he won was a masters 1 and he couldnt even win mvp over icecreamman marved xDDDD. so i can see how one would say zeek
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kfan4238173 [#10]qualified for ascension soooo idk about struggling in tier 10
played for the greatest tier 2 team ever tooyay reached MUCH lower levels (relegation from tier 2 with an expensive ass team that started 2-3 without him is crazy) but to be fair yay never did reach the heights that zeek did, that being champs mvp
i mean all he won was a masters 1 and he couldnt even win mvp over icecreamman marved xDDDD. so i can see how one would say zeek
qualified for ascension but couldn't get back.
played for the greatest tier 2 team ever too
not only is that subjective but they didn't even ascend so it can't be true.
yay reached MUCH lower levels (relegation from tier 2 with an expensive ass team that started 2-3 without him is crazy)
that "team" was full of a bunch of babies who argued constantly and most of them were complete ass (steel, genghsta). nerve and exalt were mid. this team played valorant like it was ranked.
but to be fair yay never did reach the heights that zeek did
objectively false, yay was the best player in the world for entire 2022 and a top 5 player in 2021. zeek wasn't even the best player on his team (cned) and he has no noteworthy international performances besides champs 2021. didn't qualify to a single event after that.
Yistyy [#15]qualified for ascension but couldn't get back.
played for the greatest tier 2 team ever too
not only is that subjective but they didn't even ascend so it can't be true.
yay reached MUCH lower levels (relegation from tier 2 with an expensive ass team that started 2-3 without him is crazy)
that "team" was full of a bunch of babies who argued constantly and most of them were complete ass (steel, genghsta). nerve and exalt were mid. this team played valorant like it was ranked.
but to be fair yay never did reach the heights that zeek did
objectively false, yay was the best player in the world for entire 2022 and a top 5 player in 2021. zeek wasn't even the best player on his team (cned) and he has no noteworthy international performances besides champs 2021. didn't qualify to a single event after that.
zeek was mvp tho
dsg was 2-3 before y0y joined
and i discovered that gonext 24 is the best tier 2 team of all time by looking at the talent and gameplay, not by mere results
Yistyy [#15]qualified for ascension but couldn't get back.
played for the greatest tier 2 team ever too
not only is that subjective but they didn't even ascend so it can't be true.
yay reached MUCH lower levels (relegation from tier 2 with an expensive ass team that started 2-3 without him is crazy)
that "team" was full of a bunch of babies who argued constantly and most of them were complete ass (steel, genghsta). nerve and exalt were mid. this team played valorant like it was ranked.
but to be fair yay never did reach the heights that zeek did
objectively false, yay was the best player in the world for entire 2022 and a top 5 player in 2021. zeek wasn't even the best player on his team (cned) and he has no noteworthy international performances besides champs 2021. didn't qualify to a single event after that.
w yistyy
kfan4238173 [#16]zeek was mvp tho
dsg was 2-3 before y0y joined
and i discovered that gonext 24 is the best tier 2 team of all time by looking at the talent and gameplay, not by mere results
you're just relisting the points I already refuted.
Yistyy [#18]you're just relisting the points I already refuted.
well because u refuted them like ass
wdym dsg was full of babies? doesnt mean anything because they were 2-3 before y0y joined and couldnt win a series with him, not even in relegation
kfan4238173 [#20]well because u refuted them like ass
wdym dsg was full of babies? doesnt mean anything because they were 2-3 before y0y joined and couldnt win a series with him, not even in relegation
they were already one a 3x loss streak when yay joined. and the losses were ugly. I don't remember exactly but they were getting stomped out by m80 like 13-3 on both maps. what I mean by the team being full of babies was the fact it was dysfunctional as fuck and everyone hated each other and were arguing in the middle of matches. steel and genghsta are still pussies who cry about it till this day, meanwhile yay moved on immediately.
Yistyy [#21]they were already one a 3x loss streak when yay joined. and the losses were ugly. I don't remember exactly but they were getting stomped out by m80 like 13-3 on both maps. what I mean by the team being full of babies was the fact it was dysfunctional as fuck and everyone hated each other and were arguing in the middle of matches. steel and genghsta are still pussies who cry about it till this day, meanwhile yay moved on immediately.
without y0y: getting stomped by m80 3-13
with y0y: getting stomped by OR 3-13 in relegation
also in split 1 they went 35-37 vs tsm, but in split 2 they went 11-26
kfan4238173 [#22]without y0y: getting stomped by m80 3-13
with y0y: getting stomped by OR 3-13 in relegationalso in split 1 they went 35-37 vs tsm, but in split 2 they went 11-26
by that point the team was so cooked there was no recovering it, you could bring a random free agent tier 3 team and would probably beat them because they weren't even playing organized valorant anymore.
Yay at his lowest was undoubtedly the biggest, NA streamers were hatewatching his games at 4AM and almost everyone called him y0y
Moorten_16 [#19]I saw title and instantly knew my GOAT zeek is gonna be mentioned
sry
even tho im polish and like him i must mention him
sad
Twentytwo [#27]Btw what happened to deffo
d3ffo plays for sweetnsour
Don't really look at VCL north east but i don't know how he lost to polish Szach mat and how is he playing because looking at the last game he played bad (i watch rating mainly)
Edit : Checked again his stats and he had 0.4 rating and 12 kills and 29 deaths
Also 4 best teams advance to challengers emea stage 2
everyone else go to stage 2 (probably in north east not emea challengers)