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kyedae drama

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#1
ballistA

Envy managed to make themselves way more unlikable than they were already, somehow? Apart from having Marved on the team, Yay decided to go ahead and cancel Kyedae for basic trash talk that everyone does when they lose. But of course, twitter snowflakes compare it to "body shaming" and how "toxic" it is.

It's so stupid. You listen in on any of the comms from other teams and you'd find things 10x worse than what was said. Apparently "scrawny" is where we draw the line these days? Well, maybe in the delusional world of Twitter.

This whole situation is just immature. Yay especially. Kyedae already deleted the VOD and apologized (EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T NEED TO) and yet that wasn't enough.

This situation speaks volumes for the community at the moment, it's beyond embarrassing.

And now she's thinking of leaving streaming for a while. So thanks val community + envy for literally canceling and bullying someone out of content creation? Very epic of you guys.

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tldr

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ballistA
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true but I felt it was best to be long because most just condense the story and leave out important parts.

tldr:

kyedae calls envy player "scrawny", yay makes tweet about it, kyedae gets a lot of hate (canceled) and is thinking about stopping streaming.

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hilo0829
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yea deserved

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pengu31
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A simple apology in private would have ended this hours ago
but some people have really big ego
And a riot co streamer body shaming by calling people scrawny and noodle arms doesn't help the situation either

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MilanTheMyth
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she shouldnt be streaming in the first place lmao. all cuz of tenz she is popular

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zephyr_nah
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spouses of famous persons cant have a life?

#57
MilanTheMyth
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she can, my point is she is this popular for nothing but tenz
also nice edit

#68
aotdstix
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yeah so

#82
nohorror27
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True

#47
plas
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kyedae isnt the victim here lmao in fact no one is

#59
zephyr_nah
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if u see the things people are tweeting about her and her relationship with tenz you might think otherwise.

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GuiltyUpstairs
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bruh u kyedae simps with tier 3 yearlong sub
Imagine your homie getting body shamed in front of 50k viewers. He did nothing wrong but just played well in a match.
Kyedae has such a big ego that she cannot apologise.
Just say you're sorry.
Marved was wrong back in the day but I respect that he sincerely apologised multiples times.
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Also yay is a very great guy. He struggled for years before getting famous unlike someone who got famous bcoz of their spouse

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ballistA
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why do all of you neckbeards resort to the "simp" insult? She's got a boyfriend nobody is gonna simp for her.

"body shamed"

We really out here huh, we can call people idiots, r words, stupid, garbage, shit, etc. But we draw the line at scrawny? are you from twitter by any chance?

#83
BarrelMarble32
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tell me u dont know twitch chat

you really think the fact she has a boyfriend stops 30 years donating and loving her

#84
sKi
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So you're saying its just totally normal to just call someone scrawny just outta rage?

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jawn
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didnt she literally apologize both in private and in public? tf are you even talking about

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mys
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You're welcome

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dolphincandy
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Truthfully spoken in real world is way worse than getting mad ober scrawny
https://twitter.com/dephhgg/status/1439290680900296704?s=19

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zephyr_nah
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half of the people are literally character assassinating her for the most basic trash talk..

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peppreish
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they're doing it because she's very hypocritical. nobody would care if it was dapr or sinatraa because they put on a different persona than her. she's all about positivity on her stream, and then flips a switch. not to mention that she's a riot co-streamer and acting like a little girl, which is why people are taking offense to it. however, the sexist comments and the cheating comments are definitely unneeded and i feel bad for her because people have always hated on her for that

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HackNaija
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who cares Semis on rn

#8
ait8k
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this generation is full of snowflakes jesus christ

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Bhadwa
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very tactical of kyedae to do this before match
ez win for 100t

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ballistA
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yes I'm hoping 100t dominates them now.

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Bhadwa
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holy shit tf is happening
did it make them angry?

#24
Bhadwa
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el diablo became pablo escobar
Holy shit

#29
cloud9bluefan
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Looks like it had the opposite effect you were hoping for

#35
Bhadwa
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**equal and opposite reaction**


-Newton's 3rd law of motion
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GetsystheGr8
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POV: I'm a 100T fan who doesn't know how nice of a person Yay is and I'm a sheep who believes everything I see on the internet...

Shut up dude and just move on... u just have a hate boner for NV

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Bhadwa
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there was nothing wrong with the tweet too
The tweet just said that you should not make fun of others disabilities
People like Dharmann have got millions of subs just from making videos on it
It was kyedeas fault and tenz made it worse, no envy player is to blame

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mys
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^

#25
zephyr_nah
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next what ? cancel shroud for his bald jokes on hiko?

#31
Bhadwa
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tell me one instance where shroud didn't say sorry after speaking a joke
Atleast he apologizes

#36
Valerence
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lol what disability? "a severe food allergy" is considered a disability?

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Bhadwa
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depending upon how severe it is

#50
ranker11
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bulimia nervosa is actually a severe disease

#52
messybunny
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yes?? ofc it is a disability what u on about

#66
Valerence
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Ah ok just a question I didn’t know Thx 👍

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ballistA
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LOL yeah man Yay is such a nice person to call a 19 year old out on Twitter for basic trash talk to then have a twitter army bully her and want her to the point of her thinking about quitting streaming.

real mature of him, a very nice guy yes.

Also why are you calling me a sheep when all I did was look at the tweets and form my own opinion?

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mys
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Ok listen he just called her out on it, he did not tell ANYONE to attack her, they did that themselves and he's not to blame just for calling it out...

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ballistA
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I agree with you but at this stage of social media presence you should realize when you call someone out these things will commonly happen. This should have just been a private discussion / apology (even if I don't think she needs to apologize we can agree to disagree).

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mys
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True, could've just said something in DMs instead of a public tweet.

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sKi
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bruh it was never his intention to "have a twitter army to bully her". He just called her out and wanted her to take responsibility for what she said.
EDIT: But he should have just DM'd her instead of publicly tweeting it,

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Syelf
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it's hard to separate what is trash talk and just raw offense if you're praising your bf's team and saying shit to the other players on the opposite one for 2 hours, idk tho

#15
TinglyPiano
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why is vlr.gg is so obsessed with drama? When there is a semi-final of Masters going on right now

said it all about how old the userbase is tbh

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ballistA
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not really obsessed with the drama, I'm just not happy with someone being bullied out of content creation. That's all.

The drama is stupid and petty and that's why it's even more immature of yay to make a tweet about it.

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TinglyPiano
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'sorry, it was inseneitive for me to say what I said on stream. I will do better from here on'

there you go, back to normal streaming. American too big ego to say sorry and move on?

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Toshimuya
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she sould stop streaming good for twitch

#23
swaglord69
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shut up and watch the game dummy

#26
pashafps
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why i am not wondered this happens in NA Region and not EU

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ballistA
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because NA is too soft

EU is tougher but they play victim too hard.

every region has its faults

#46
cauhzi
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no, alot of EU pros dont like to involve themselves with drama PLUS alot of them are older so they dont care about stuff like that (fps pros ofc) not talking for other esports

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Bhadwa
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eu is full of wannabe professionals and NA is already full of content creators which absolutely lack skill and don't want to improve
This is no surprise

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pashafps
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you are such a troll lol is cs go, LoL and fortnite not available in your region?

#78
Bhadwa
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Fortnite is absolutely dead here
CSGO is full of hackers(altleast 4 hackers per lobby)
But lol is doing pretty good, even after not having mass fanbase here

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BREQKER
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Hey listen: I don't give a flyin fuck about this kids drama

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ballistA
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then why did you reply LULW

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ballistA
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oops wrong person srry

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itsOvers
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you are an idiot and a major simp

I'm pretty sure no one gives a fuck about being called scrawny or not, most people are just seeing it from a different perspective and want kyedae to get the same punishment is if it was a dude commenting negatively about a girls body

we all just want an equal world out here :)

so yeah kyedae should stop streaming and never get permz again, pretty fucked up to comment on my mans crashies body like that

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Registered: September 17, 2021

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itsOvers
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registered: i don't give a fuck

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ballistA
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"major simp" hey idiot hope you realize simps are suppose to simp over people without boyfriends.

but anyways, its just basic trash talk. If you are too soft then probably stop playing valorant

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itsOvers
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seems like what I said went way over your head or you are way too dumb to comprehend what I said
and many people constantly simp over girls with boyfriend they aren't mutually exclusive
i'm starting to think u are more the latter than the former
even if it's just trash talk it's fucked up to comment about someone being scrawny then it turns out he has major food allergy's like what yay said
even if it was just a slip up the backlash is deserved since she did it twice
one being noodle boy from gambit and then crashies

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ballistA
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  1. how was she suppose to know he had a food allergy
    1. she had already deleted the VOD yesterday and realized she made a mistake but Yay still decided to tweet it out and increase the drama

it's just flat out immature. Like what more do you want? You can take a peek into a team's comms and find 10x more nasty stuff said in there.

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itsOvers
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yeah that's why you don't comment badly on people's physical appearance because you don't know if some underlying problems are there

who knows maybe the envy people are all tweeting about it because it made crashies feel like shit

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ranker11
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what if it was a master plan from nadeshot to make NV tilt but it backfired and they're going full on rage mode

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pengu31
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I mean she is sanctioned by Riot to do a co-stream and whenever her team starts to lose, bodyshaming the opponents isn't good for her
A simple apology in private would've ended hours ago

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gosou
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She will never gonna get the co-stream rights from riot again.

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tezz1
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Why does it seem like crashies didnt even give a fuck but yay went ahead and tweeted that anyway

#51
Abdul
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why does it seem like you came to that conclusion all on your own

#54
tezz1
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yeah im probably wrong but why wouldn't crashies tweet about it, well idk

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Abdul
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both seem childish IMO. she should have apologised a while back and only now is thinking of ending her streaming career (coincidence). But very unnecessary drama

#69
greedisntgood
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Yep, your ability to see things is the problem

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hilo0829
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i mean they are at a lan so they probs talked about it and yay tweeted about it
and crashies replied :P instantly so yea

#61
BarrelMarble32
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meanwhile if i called a women fat id get banned!

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wasteofLiam
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Medium warm take: the smoke she is catching from the internet is totally deserved*
She's an adult, and a professional who was sanctioned by Riot to co-stream. She should learn to control her emotional reactions, and not say things like that in front of thousands of people. We all have to be responsible for our own actions regardless of if we're joking or not. You can't go to your place of work and talk like that without consequence, why should she be able to? It's not an issue of people being overly sensitive or 'snowflakes' it's more of the fact that nowadays esports personalities are more visible and held to a higher standard than ever before, which is a good thing and comes with industry growth.

* I say that it's deserved but I am of course excluding the toxic ass people telling her to harm herself or anything similar to that. These people are only furthering the problem and nobody deserves that, period. But she should catch some flack, and even be called out for saying something so hateful in a sanctioned and professional environment.

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jawn
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so basically you're saying "just don't make mistakes" as if content creators are some kind of gods, homie she's just a kid

#86
wasteofLiam
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Not at all, everyone makes mistakes. I'm saying she(and everyone else) should expect to get a degree of backlash when it happens. Make a mistake, deal with the consequences.

#67
WARDELLSTAN
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I really dgaf. If people are crying over the word "scrawny", they wouldn't be able to survive the Black Ops 2 lobbies.

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Bhadwa
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all you need to say is "teri ma randi" on an Indian right lobby subreddit

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hilo0829
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who asked

#73
wolf_ninjah
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when she body shamed g2 players noone said anything(if they have wanted g2 players could have made it a bigger issue) but now when she says small thing about crashies (which crashies also doesnt care about) people are making it such a big deal. i think yay overreacted to the thing which he should have .

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hilo0829
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shes already back LOL

#79
sKi
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There's a difference between players trash talking between each other and then when a streamer who isn't even good at the game in front of 70k comments something insensitive like that on a player.

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Instalocker
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I think people are more pissed because when sentinels were winning she used to say things like " oh I feel bad for the other team" and once sentinels lose and she can't even control herself
And for people who are saying that you get called worse things in school yeah you do but that is in front of 10 people and not 70k

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