How tf switzerland won
I thought they were gonna come like last
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Katakan7 [#2]wtf is eurovision?
every year all the european countries send a representative and they compete who has the best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXwgZL4zx9o&ab_channel=EurovisionSongContest
CowRabies26 [#5]every year all the european countries send a representative and they compete who has the best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXwgZL4zx9o&ab_channel=EurovisionSongContest
famous European country named Israel
ButterflyEffect23 [#7]famous European country named Israel
yeah they and australia are apart of the EBU
it isnt geographical
CowRabies26 [#8]yeah they and australia are apart of the EBU
it isnt geographical
Australia is in here too now? lmao
CowRabies26 [#5]every year all the european countries send a representative and they compete who has the best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXwgZL4zx9o&ab_channel=EurovisionSongContest
frankly the idea you can "rate" music and performances is stupid enough for me to not watch it
add in the political shitshow and discrimination and you've got a really unpleasant dick measuring contest between european countries.
flanador [#10]Netherlands should have won
the song is good but i dont fw with the guy
bro
that song has nothing to do with ur dead dad like bro just milking sympathy i dont see how people can fw him
and he was a bitch to israel like bro the girl aint IDF
amedy [#11]frankly the idea you can "rate" music and performances is stupid enough for me to not watch it
add in the political shitshow and discrimination and you've got a really unpleasant dick measuring contest between european countries.
i mean i wouldnt say "rate" its just the song that sounds best to the most ammount of people wins i guess
but yeah the politics is kinda shit
CowRabies26 [#12]the song is good but i dont fw with the guy
bro
that song has nothing to do with ur dead dad like bro just milking sympathy i dont see how people can fw him
and he was a bitch to israel like bro the girl aint IDF
w guy for being a bitch to the isreali
CowRabies26 [#12]the song is good but i dont fw with the guy
bro
that song has nothing to do with ur dead dad like bro just milking sympathy i dont see how people can fw him
and he was a bitch to israel like bro the girl aint IDF
isn't the song about him being an orphan traveling around europe due to his fathers/mothers death? Also the Israeli camp was instigating so fuck those bums
flanador [#15]isn't the song about him being an orphan traveling around europe due to his fathers/mothers death? Also the Israeli camp was instigating so fuck those bums
the israeli camp has been really awful this time around. honestly not sure why so many people suck up to them... the whole thing with the palestinian clothing was so bullshit lmao
dariiii [#14]w guy for being a bitch to the isreali
no absolutely not
we do not judge people or treat them differently just because they come from a country
people cant really choose that
booing her is no worse than for example booing someone for being black
CowRabies26 [#17]no absolutely not
we do not judge people or treat them differently just because they come from a country
people cant really choose that
booing her is no worse than for example booing someone for being black
Israel is doing some bad things, why not boo an Israeli representative
ButterflyEffect23 [#9]Australia is in here too now? lmao
yeah.. the idea of it being european is way gone
CowRabies26 [#17]no absolutely not
we do not judge people or treat them differently just because they come from a country
people cant really choose that
booing her is no worse than for example booing someone for being black
would you say the same for a russian representative? if there is politics involved then the audience has all the right to manifest their own as well. and eurovision has always been political, soo
amedy [#16]the israeli camp has been really awful this time around. honestly not sure why so many people suck up to them... the whole thing with the palestinian clothing was so bullshit lmao
Honestly weird why they’re not banned from Eurovision, but Russia is considering the genocide that’s going on
ButterflyEffect23 [#18]Israel is doing some bad things, why not boo an Israeli representative
CUZ THATS LITERALLY LIKE RACISM OR WHATEVER ITS CALLED? HAHA
CowRabies26 [#23]CUZ THATS LITERALLY LIKE RACISM OR WHATEVER ITS CALLED? HAHA
there's racism in denouncing terroristic behavior of Israel? what
flanador [#22]Honestly weird why they’re not banned from Eurovision, but Russia is considering the genocide that’s going on
Russia invaded a peaceful country? Not really a reason?
Im not saying im an israel supporter but there is noway theyre the same
israel invaded with a reason.
CowRabies26 [#25]Russia invaded a peaceful country? Not really a reason?
Im not saying im an israel supporter but there is noway theyre the same
israel invaded with a reason.
Israel did in fact not invade with a reason, you’re delusional bud
CowRabies26 [#25]Russia invaded a peaceful country? Not really a reason?
Im not saying im an israel supporter but there is noway theyre the same
israel invaded with a reason.
Israel is harming civilian and non-combatant Islamic population in Gaza, what's the reason for that
ButterflyEffect23 [#18]Israel is doing some bad things, why not boo an Israeli representative
Wtf yall are weird
ButterflyEffect23 [#27]Israel is harming civilian and non-combatant Islamic population in Gaza, what's the reason for that
Hamas use their civilians as human shields xd
flanador [#26]Israel did in fact not invade with a reason, you’re delusional bud
Hamas launched an attack on Israel on 7 October 2023 which saw a minimum of 1,139 largely non-combatant individuals killed, and after that Israel declared war on Palestine and Hamas? Am i wrong?
ButterflyEffect23 [#27]Israel is harming civilian and non-combatant Islamic population in Gaza, what's the reason for that
No israel isnt harming civilians. HAMAS are. They are literally using the palestinians as a meatshield by for example using a hospital as a base. If they were honorable soldiers the civilians would be safe. But they arent. They are terrorists .
CowRabies26 [#31]Hamas launched an attack on Israel on 7 October 2023 which saw a minimum of 1,139 largely non-combatant individuals killed, and after that Israel declared war on Palestine and Hamas? Am i wrong?
U are correct. Dont know what the guy above is waffling about lmao
thjing [#33]U are correct. Dont know what the guy above is waffling about lmao
Im not taking sides here im just pointing out the OBVIOUS fact that hamas kept poking and now theyve awoken the bear
ButterflyEffect23 [#24]there's racism in denouncing terroristic behavior of Israel? what
like are u even reading my posts? its an individual not the governemnt
so why boo the individual that hasnt done anything? let her sing her song
its not politics man
CowRabies26 [#34]Im not taking sides here im just pointing out the OBVIOUS fact that hamas kept poking and now theyve awoken the bear
Agreed. I dont support israel and would rather they stopped the war but to pretend hamas arent the evil ones is ridiculous
CowRabies26 [#32]No israel isnt harming civilians. HAMAS are. They are literally using the palestinians as a meatshield by for example using a hospital as a base. If they were honorable soldiers the civilians would be safe. But they arent. They are terrorists .
they both are. it's not too hard to say that... still agree with you that there is a difference between israel's war and russia's but let's not act like israel is doing everything they can to protect palestinian civilians, even though they're working against hamas
thjing [#36]Agreed. I dont support israel and would rather they stopped the war but to pretend hamas arent the evil ones is ridiculous
i dont think looking at it as "evil ones" and "good ones" is great, because both the palestinian government (hamas) and israeli government (idf) have commited atrocities and are in some way or another responsible for what is going on in this conflict. but being unable to recognize hamas is a bullshit terrorist organization that harms its own civilians as well as isrealis is super dumb and dogmatic.
CowRabies26 [#35]like are u even reading my posts? its an individual not the governemnt
so why boo the individual that hasnt done anything? let her sing her song
its not politics man
its not politics man
talks about Eurovision
press x to doubt
amedy [#37]they both are. it's not too hard to say that... still agree with you that there is a difference between israel's war and russia's but let's not act like israel is doing everything they can to protect palestinian civilians, even though they're working against hamas
Valid point. Neither Israel or HAMAS are saints.
CowRabies26 [#40]Valid point. Neither Israel or HAMAS are saints.
yeah. people forget the israel-palestine conflict did not start in oct 7th, it's been going on for at least a 100 years if not more. no one here has the exclusive right to the land, no one here didn't commit atrocities, the faster they can both recognize that the better.
amedy [#38]i dont think looking at it as "evil ones" and "good ones" is great, because both the palestinian government (hamas) and israeli government (idf) have commited atrocities and are in some way or another responsible for what is going on in this conflict. but being unable to recognize hamas is a bullshit terrorist organization that harms its own civilians as well as isrealis is super dumb and dogmatic.
True. I just see it as what hamas has done is objectively evil while israel has been forced to commit sins while trying to destroy hamas.
Of course though israel probably coulda handled it better and tbh would prefer if they just called of the attack. The loss of life is not worth it for the destruction of hamas imo but i can also see the israelis point of view.
CowRabies26 [#31]Hamas launched an attack on Israel on 7 October 2023 which saw a minimum of 1,139 largely non-combatant individuals killed, and after that Israel declared war on Palestine and Hamas? Am i wrong?
In response Israel has killed more than 30k civilians
amedy [#41]yeah. people forget the israel-palestine conflict did not start in oct 7th, it's been going on for at least a 100 years if not more. no one here has the exclusive right to the land, no one here didn't commit atrocities, the faster they can both recognize that the better.
the land belongs to the Palestinian people . isrealis citizens came from europe and took over
dariiii [#46]the land belongs to the Palestinian people . isrealis citizens came from europe and took over
are you going to kick out the millions of descendants of those initial settlers? most of them had nothing to do with it. historically, yes it's been theirs, but the people that currently live in israel also have families' worth of history in those places too...
that isn't to say that israelis pushing out palestinians from the west bank and all the apartheid rules are good, that's awful and should be stopped, but it's disingenuous to say that the israeli people who currently live their have no claim to that land either. in my opinion, anyways
amedy [#47]are you going to kick out the millions of descendants of those initial settlers? most of them had nothing to do with it. historically, yes it's been theirs, but the people that currently live in israel also have families' worth of history in those places too...
that isn't to say that israelis pushing out palestinians from the west bank and all the apartheid rules are good, that's awful and should be stopped, but it's disingenuous to say that the israeli people who currently live their have no claim to that land either. in my opinion, anyways
They don’t 🤗
ButterflyEffect23 [#18]Israel is doing some bad things, why not boo an Israeli representative
that's just fucked up
CowRabies26 [#25]Russia invaded a peaceful country? Not really a reason?
Im not saying im an israel supporter but there is noway theyre the same
israel invaded with a reason.
brother i dont want to go into this but there definitely is reason behind Russian invading Ukraine lmfao
not saying i justify it, but there is plausible reason behind it
dariiii [#14]w guy for being a bitch to the isreali
this is just outright racism xd
"to the isreali"
that is a CRAZY statement
ur steryotyping all Isrealian people
smthlikeyou11 [#51]brother i dont want to go into this but there definitely is reason behind Russian invading Ukraine lmfao
not saying i justify it, but there is plausible reason behind it
ukraine was never a threat to russian citizens
hamas is a threat to israelis
tHERmal_ [#55]mods why is this still up
its in the off-topic
and we are just discussing
nothing wrong here man?
it isnt politics
we are just DISCUSSING the INFLUENCE of POLITICS in eurovision
and we are discussing concrete events? no opinions, no politics!!!!!!!!!
CowRabies26 [#56]its in the off-topic
and we are just discussing
nothing wrong here man?
it isnt politics
we are just DISCUSSING the INFLUENCE of POLITICS in eurovision
and we are discussing concrete events? no opinions, no politics!!!!!!!!!
"we are just DISCUSSING the INFLUENCE of POLITICS in eurovision
and we are discussing concrete events? no opinions, no politics!!!!!!!!!"
r u stupid or just brainwashed??
you said we are discussing the influence of politics in eurovision then you say u aren't discussing politics.
the obvious contradiction is crazy
Zerphyr1 [#57]"we are just DISCUSSING the INFLUENCE of POLITICS in eurovision
and we are discussing concrete events? no opinions, no politics!!!!!!!!!"r u stupid or just brainwashed??
you said we are discussing the influence of politics in eurovision then you say u aren't discussing politics.
the obvious contradiction is crazy
again
a human who lacks the ability of critical thinking and civilised discussing.
you dont even know what politics is man
how is discussing the impact of politics in eurovision
the same as having a political discussion/debate
political discussion: 2 parts disagreeing
discussing the politics influence: 2 parts discussing how it impacted
like ur so rude and u clearly lack the brains to back it up
Zerphyr1 [#57]"we are just DISCUSSING the INFLUENCE of POLITICS in eurovision
and we are discussing concrete events? no opinions, no politics!!!!!!!!!"r u stupid or just brainwashed??
you said we are discussing the influence of politics in eurovision then you say u aren't discussing politics.
the obvious contradiction is crazy
but of course when you average 20 posts a day and havent had a whiff of fresh air in years you ought to have some L braindead takes
BrotherMan [#3]singing competition with just a sprinkle of politics
so is it like planet music from rick and morty but they just dont get fucking evaporated by a laser
CowRabies26 [#58]again
a human who lacks the ability of critical thinking and civilised discussing.
you dont even know what politics is man
how is discussing the impact of politics in eurovision
the same as having a political discussion/debatepolitical discussion: 2 parts disagreeing
discussing the politics influence: 2 parts discussing how it impactedlike ur so rude and u clearly lack the brains to back it up
all ur doing is using ad hominem and not even discussing my point. If you are so smart and ur right then you could easily just respond with facts and a well structured argument.
If anything u responding with ONLY insults just shows the lack in your critical thinking and civilised discussion skills.
Zerphyr1 [#61]all ur doing is using ad hominem and not even discussing my point. If you are so smart and ur right then you could easily just respond with facts and a well structured argument.
If anything u responding with ONLY insults just shows the lack in your critical thinking and civilised discussion skills.
IM USING ad hominem HAHAHAH
bro my post
4 lines of argument
and 3 lines of ad hominem
4>3 therefore debunking YOUR WHOLE POST!!!!!!!!!!
its okay bud, you cant always be right
especially when ur chronically on this site like u
CowRabies26 [#63]IM USING ad hominem HAHAHAH
bro my post
4 lines of argument
and 3 lines of ad hominem
4>3 therefore debunking YOUR WHOLE POST!!!!!!!!!!its okay bud, you cant always be right
especially when ur chronically on this site like u
so if I just say this for example:
I disagree
I disagree
I disagree
I respectfully disagree
ur fucking stupid
ur braindead
u lack brain cells
OMG LOOK I USED 4 LINES OF ARGUMENT AND 3 LINES OF AD HOMINEM SO ACTUALLY I AM NOT BEING RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL AS 4 > 3
Zerphyr1 [#64]so if I just say this for example:
I disagree
I disagree
I disagree
I respectfully disagreeur fucking stupid
ur braindead
u lack brain cellsOMG LOOK I USED 4 LINES OF ARGUMENT AND 3 LINES OF AD HOMINEM SO ACTUALLY I AM NOT BEING RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL AS 4 > 3
okay ur just trolling now
my point was valid
you said i only used ad hominem when i PROVED that majority of the text in my post was an legit argument but you just choose to ignore that and focus on the part where i called u stupid (because you dont have a counter argument sadge go read a book (if you know how to read(doenst seem like it)))
your just making another argumentative fallacy
try and make a post without one and you might be worthy of a response
CowRabies26 [#65]okay ur just trolling now
my point was valid
you said i only used ad hominem when i PROVED that majority of the text in my post was an legit argument but you just choose to ignore that and focus on the part where i called u stupid (because you dont have a counter argument sadge go read a book (if you know how to read(doenst seem like it)))your just making another argumentative fallacy
try and make a post without one and you might be worthy of a response
"again
a human who lacks the ability of critical thinking and civilised discussing.
you dont even know what politics is man
how is discussing the impact of politics in eurovision
the same as having a political discussion/debate
political discussion: 2 parts disagreeing
discussing the politics influence: 2 parts discussing how it impacted
like ur so rude and u clearly lack the brains to back it up"
- first line is just 1 word and is neither an argument or an ad hominem
2nd and 3rd line: ad homenims.
4th and 5th: ur putting words in my mouth that I never said. I never said it was a political discussion/ debate but I rather just said that you are talking about politics (mentioning politics which does not mean having a discussion or debate about politics).
this sentence is not an argument in itself but is rather a question and ur using the false dilemma fallacy by suggesting that I said "the impact of politics in eurovision is the same as having a political discussion/debate" when I didn't and therefor I might not agree or disagree with that statement.
6th and 7th: not an argument nor ad hominem as ur just reiterating the parts of the previous discussion.
8th: ad hominem:
conc.
every single point u made was an ad hominem and so ur whole "argument" was only ad homonyms and no points that weren't attacking my character were addressed.
CowRabies26 [#53]ukraine was never a threat to russian citizens
hamas is a threat to israelis
It was not Ukraine itself, if it was they would invade it long ago, it was potential of Ukraine in NATO.
flanador [#10]Netherlands should have won
its fucked up that we got disqualified for that stupid ass reason
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