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zekken raze vs jing raze @acegamer30

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#1
smthlikeyou11

this should not be a debate
although atm i do agree zekken is a better DUELIST
Jing mogs in raze mechanics
Jing has pioneered tons of raze movements and satchels
When u hear the word "best raze" im sure the majority of people will think of Jing first.
When u ask someone what is zekken's specialty, doubt many would say the best raze in the world
When u ask someone what is Jingg's specialty, most people would say crazy raze player.
From the eye test alone Jing has proven to be superior, but ill show some data

Jingg's international events- rating is sorted specifically on RAZE
fourth place rejavik, 1.03 rating (5th in the event)
2nd place copenhagen, 1.09 rating, (2nd)
Grouped champs 2022, 0.79 rating, (2nd last)
lockin- first round exit, 1.07 rating, (10th)
Tokyo- 1.07 rating, (tied 5th)
Champs- 0.96 rating, (15th)
OVERALL RATING 1.00 on two more events

zekkens international events
Champs 2022, 6th, 1.04 rating (9th)
lockin first roudn exit, 0.55 rating (last place)
madrid first, 1.16 rating (first)
copenhagen 2022, 1.11 (3rd)
OVERALL RATING 0.96 on two less events

Jingg's missed events
madrid, NS
all events 2021,

zekken's missed events
all events 2021
2022 rejavik
2023 tokyo
2023 champs

Jingg was the much more consistent player throughout the year, although zekken is a good duelist his raze movement and mechanics are not as good as jingg. Jing has better overall placements throughout the years. Jing's impact and util usage are just better than zekkens, you can go review the vods urself

edit: honorable mention most valuable player in the world

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DeluluGavin
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hey something, how's your prep going for Pacific split 1?

#3
GaeHGae
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allat

#4
Psion
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acegamer30 disagreement incoming

#5
cobalt21312
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just like i saw someone say: the best raze of today vs the best raze of all time

#6
smthlikeyou11
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DeluluGavin [#2]

hey something, how's your prep going for Pacific split 1?

old prx is gonna be back stay tuned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5SFqslZus

#7
ilovezekken
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zekken will surpass him soon

#8
smthlikeyou11
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ilovezekken [#7]

zekken will surpass him soon

hopefully prx faces sen in shanghai

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333triplethreat
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lol best raze cant really be defined. theres always that one outside factor that changes everything. xset literally only had cryo and zekken.Ayrin and dephh gone, bcj in tier 2. whereas prx only made one change in the past few years(not including-jing+monyet+jing-monyet) which shows that jing has always been supported by tier 1 players.

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smthlikeyou11
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333triplethreat [#9]

lol best raze cant really be defined. theres always that one outside factor that changes everything. xset literally only had cryo and zekken.Ayrin and dephh gone, bcj in tier 2. whereas prx only made one change in the past few years(not including-jing+monyet+jing-monyet) which shows that jing has always been supported by tier 1 players.

this is true. that's why i dont really like to use data because its pretty common knowledge that Jing is the best raze in the world (jawgemo can be named as a contender) and zekken's movement is not as good as jing's yet.
However I dont think thats gonna convice acegamer and there isnt really a more accurate way to compare them unless i dive deep into the data.

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rygro
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If you remove lock in, which was 1 match, zekkens average rating goes up to 1.10. Kind of disingenuous to leave an outlier like that in

#12
destroylonely
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allat + jawgemo clears both

#13
icxtontop
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destroylonely [#12]

allat + jawgemo clears both

jawg is the goat

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smthlikeyou11
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rygro [#11]

If you remove lock in, which was 1 match, zekkens average rating goes up to 1.10. Kind of disingenuous to leave an outlier like that in

yea but if i were to remove that i would have to remove champs 2022 for jing as well
then the rating becomes 1.04 vs zekkens 1.1, but Jing has played 2 more events, which i highly doubt zekkens would be higher than jinggs after 2 more events

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smthlikeyou11
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destroylonely [#12]

allat + jawgemo clears both

honestly a valid take jawg easily has a resume for GOAT raze

#16
ChowChow
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Acegamer30 too scared to come out and accept this truth.🗿

#17
rygro
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smthlikeyou11 [#14]

yea but if i were to remove that i would have to remove champs 2022 for jing as well
then the rating becomes 1.04 vs zekkens 1.1, but Jing has played 2 more events, which i highly doubt zekkens would be higher than jinggs after 2 more events

All I can say is that removing that one obvious outlier completely blows up your point

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zekken clears that trophy less bum

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