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NA nepotism

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#1
BrotherMan

its bizarre how many frauds got in NA franchising and did jack shit:
Take for example SEN sykko and dephh - fucked the roles a lot. Put a world champion controller to a sentinel role, and a world champ initiator to controller
C9: they got vanity leaf and xeppaa who were ex teammates in CS, lets be honest now, Vanity aint built for tier 1, and xeppaa was mid this season. Not to forget that zellsis was added which was largely due to Vanity's influence; zellsis isnt good enough for tier 1. when they dropped yay and vanity, and picked up jakee and runi with literally no tier 1 experience, they shocked everyone

Hot take: 100T asuna isnt fit for tier 1 either, (a lot of yall are gonna give me shit), but there's way better flex players in NA T2. he's just a poster boy for 100T, so he's made it this far.

Look at EG: picked up demon1 who also had no experience, I believe their only franchise purchase was ethan and the rest were already in EG roster and they won champs
TLDR: Many fraud players about to exposed cause orgs want cheaper players, which is good and gives opportunity for T2 players.

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michaelisupset
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allat

#3
Yistyy
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For real. So many frauds took up so much space in tier 1, whilst NA challengers was stacked asf

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BoF7ooM
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I agree with everything except zellsis. He is definitely good enough for tier 1. I thought it was a troll pick but he is pretty good, bit like s0m but worse.

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BrotherMan
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he's nowhere near s0m imo. s0m was top NA's most consistent player this year (excl. EG players).. i just find zellsis average. initiators like nismo, trent, verno, eeiu are better than him

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Orangepanda
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S0m clears this clout merchant

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greedeetv
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literally none of those are better than him except MAYBE trent because of his great aim in addition to his great comms. verno and eeiu aren't there yet, nismo is close

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pugboy
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c9 was a good team only team they lost to were DRX just needed more time as a team c9 just too poor. 100t needs to stop tryna sign tier 2-3 players and thinking it will work like EG or PRX or whoever. SEN should look better if they keep the core 4 they will be more comfortable with each other + I assume they won't change there roster every couple days and will have a real IGL. fuck NRG. EG good job

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BrotherMan
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that team was not bound to win anything tbh.. vanity is not a good enough igl

#8
pugboy
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honestly despite bad performance on shopify I think he is just put him on smokes and he'll cook

#9
Gratis
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Don't worry, we deported Dephh and Ardiis. I will NOT allow any more shitmea spies into my region anymore.

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Rollon_vegabond
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This thread sucking off tier 1 players are the same people who called EG trash at the beginning of the season. You don’t know shit don’t talk like you know what a tier 1 player is. 99 percent of vlr thought EG was a joke. Now they are they reigning champs. Just stfu plz lol

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BrotherMan
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no I wont stfu cuz this is a discussion based forum. also EG had full right to get blasted cause they were one of the worst teams to start in the league you absolute donkey. they just got their shit together and trusted one another

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Rollon_vegabond
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Yeah I just went inspector gadget. Your a bum get a life outside of vlr. And you were sucking off SEN Dephh early on and hating on COM and demon 1. Get a life you loser receipts don’t lie your a bum. Go get good at the game before you obviously don’t understand “tier 1” beyond recent stats LOL. Deadass bum

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BrotherMan
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HAHAHAHAH BRO GOT MAD LMFAOOO.. bark more for me please

#17
Rollon_vegabond
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It’s just facts your so dumb you open your mouth and the world gets dumber. Have fun posting on vlr another 1000000 this year. ✌️

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BrotherMan
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show me where i was 'sucking off dephh' you absolute fucking moron. and as I said EG literally was one of the worst teams in americas during start of regular season you fucking bum ahahahhah bro got actual roid rage lmfaooo

#12
himne
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i think the last year situation is very different from this year, firstly, champs 2022 was mid sept then right after the partnered teams were announced and mid oct it was initial roster lock (?) so teams are pressured to make a roster as fast as possible with those players who made internatl events high on priority list. they just scrambled to get the “best” ones they could get maybe without tryouts because of limited time and org competing for the best players

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333triplethreat
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u guys r hating on asuna because you think hes a "poster boy". If you have actually known, this is like his first year mostly playing initator, so obviously you wouldn't expect him to shine. Not only that, if you look at his raze this year(although not many) its pretty clear that he still mains duelist. Not to mention, he played more phoenix/reyna/raze than skye. Yall remember the last time he played reyna or phoenix? what, 2021?
Deserves T1(put in a place where we all knew he wasnt ready for-hes only played 106 maps of initator....

tell me he is not a duelist main
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/100T%20Asuna%231111/overview

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BrotherMan
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c9 - leaf (for now)
SEN - tenz/zekken
EG - demon1/jawgemo
nrg - most probably yay
100T - cryo

do you think he clears all these duelists? his most likely chance is his own teammate cryo.. there's no way hes a better duelist than the others mentioned

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333triplethreat
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jett meta is literally gone, so def clears prob all(maybe not zekken) in terms of duelist. the jett players prob going back to chamber. I mean maybe jett isnt purely gone but im sure asuna is going to play more duelist roles next year....

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BrotherMan
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he's definitely not a better raze than jawgemo, jaw literally diffd jingg in champs final... comp stats dont prove anything. he played 1 game of raze during season and his stats were mid af

and i think if jett is not a meta (might be or not), teams will favour chamber more than raze cause of oping.. maps like bind and split she has always been playable

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333triplethreat
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where r u getting his mid stats? he literally carried 100t against kru bro.
https://www.vlr.gg/183793/kr-esports-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w4/?game=118975&tab=overview

yeah obviously she has been playable, I didnt say she was never, I said hes going to prob play more duelists next year bruh. This means that maybe raze on ascent(hes played it before) etc.

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BrotherMan
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Victor, Zekken, and jawgemo are objectively a better raze player than asuna.
Sure you might think he’s a good duelist but his best duelist raze can only be played on so many maps, I don’t see phoenix Reyna being played.. he needs to fix his shit up asap cuz ranked stats don’t mean anything even tho he’s smurfing ppl on ranked

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333triplethreat
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Bro said victor is good at raze 💀💀 bro got diffed by shotgun raze💀💀
Perhaps u can say the other 2 but think, u have jawgemo who is good at raze followed by some of the best players. For example, ethan, one of the best initiator. C0m is also hella gud at controller and initiator. I already said zekken is good so no need to explain him

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BrotherMan
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Lmaooo you think asuna is better than Victor on raze. You’re talking about asuna carrying on raze vs KRU but this is the actual definition of carrying on raze, that too against LOUD
https://www.vlr.gg/183815/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w7/?game=119037&tab=overview

Moreover Victor has a better rating than asuna on raze throughout VCT americas and don’t forget Victor is a Goated flex who can play KJ, kayo, neon and even viper meanwhile asuna is a 1 trick merchant

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kskm
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asuna definitely doesnt deserve it considering how the entire 100t squad has been changed but he somehow kept his spot despite the results.

rest of it is just you reacting based on results.. alot of good teams who have done great this year played around with roles.. i mean demon1 plays smokes aswell - if it didnt work everyone would've blasted eg for it. otherwise its masterclass. with changing metas, new agents and maps.. switching of roles is bound to happen.

#23
dayyaan1
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Xeppa a top tier role player he just needs a good team to shine in. Leaf is the real choker if he dialed in they would make every lan

#27
crashhacker1
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I think both 100T and C9 have initiator role issues with xeppa/zellsis & asuna/derrek.
Until they sort out who is their main initiator, they will fall short.

#28
Pengu12
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Imo you could mayyybe keep Asuna around another year unless u can get nismo or trent cause we are entering a raze meta and Asuna is insane on raze, but if he has to play initiator again then def boot him, also if 100t doesn’t perform again next year then he should go

#29
Simp4S0m
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Same vibe post

https://www.vlr.gg/204191/na-nepotism-franchising

#32
unknown_trash
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For C9, mce used to be coach for chaos roster, so yeah there's that too.
Also EG bought bcj and icy and screwface. But I mean only bcj might have cost something, the other two were free agents.

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