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TomPachaya [#2]Overated AF
fr derke is a fraud, if not for his superteam carrying the sit outta him he would be NAVI level at best
vitzsu [#5]fr derke is a fraud, if not for his superteam carrying the sit outta him he would be NAVI level at best
outfragged every EG player in the masters final + flair
azureblade101 [#6]derke is bot fragging yet fnatic are still winning, this is the power of fnatic!
Derke is the worst player in fnatic, that's why
juststormmm [#15]EAT SHIT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
he can get kills without team support?
TomPachaya [#24]he can get kills without team support?
He cleared him at Copenhagen and istanbul🥱
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
vitzsu [#5]fr derke is a fraud, if not for his superteam carrying the sit outta him he would be NAVI level at best
yeah man atleast he can't get kill without team support. dude get ace with op and 2 team support kills. and cringe dan boys thinks he is good
TomPachaya [#26]dude get ace with team support cringe fan boys thinks he is good. lol
Bro that’s proplay not platinum. And he would dominate radiant without team support
TomPachaya [#33]yeah man atleast he can't get kill without team support. dude get ace with op and 2 team support kills. and cringe dan boys thinks he is good
what are you saying bro 💀
Martinao [#34]Bro that’s proplay not platinum. And he would dominate radiant without team support
haha lol if NA servers yeah he can dominant maybe
TomPachaya [#29]but without team he is nothing. overated af
If only your poor brain could keep up with your mouth sprinting all over the place... How long have you been watching DERKE play, and where were you during FNATIC acquired him? Have you watched CrowCrowd vs. Forze final, or for that matter any of his pre-Fnatic games? LMAO
KID, GTFO ... seriously, even if bait --> not good enough for 0/8
clocksky888 [#38]If only your poor brain could keep up with your mouth sprinting all over the place... How long have you been watching DERKE play, and where were you during FNATIC acquired him? Have you watched CrowCrowd vs. Forze final, or for that matter any of his pre-Fnatic games? LMAO
KID, GTFO ... seriously, even if bait --> not good enough for 0/8
i watched fnatic since 2021. he is compeletely overrated, without his team he is nothing. you are the one who doesn't have brain. take your meds dude
Master_oGgway [#18]Boaster exists
You take derke out and put a handful of players and fnatic will work, you take out Boaster and i don't think it can.
I am not saying Derke is bad, but Leo, Chronicle and Alfajer are WAY better, and Boaster is a big brain IGL
Gqviria [#40]You take derke out and put a handful of players and fnatic will work, you take out Boaster and i don't think it can.
I am not saying Derke is bad, but Leo, Chronicle and Alfajer are WAY better, and Boaster is a big brain IGL
this is true, duelist are easily the most replaceable.
underdog_Supporter [#30]Derke was the most influential player against that Lockin Finals comeback lil bro
true. no one else has mentioned this
juststormmm [#35]KEEP CRYING BOZO
Why i'm crying? i just speaking truth. lol. you're the guy who is crying man
underdog_Supporter [#30]Derke was the most influential player against that Lockin Finals comeback lil bro
lol. haha haha haha
Gqviria [#13]Derke is the worst player in fnatic, that's why
dude gets -11 dwon votes to speaking truth. cringe VLR users. he is the worst player in fnatic. defiently agree with that
TomPachaya [#39]i watched fnatic since 2021. he is compeletely overrated, without his team he is nothing. you are the one who doesn't have brain. take your meds dude
No, you haven't, if you're willing to comment low on one of Valorant's best players EVER and influence to other pro players! What, you don't agree? Then go ask any pro in the game... Please save me some laughter, kid. -------> You must give DERKE CREDIT for what he deserves and for his hard work. PERIOD!
Besides, it's not cool to dismiss any player without supporting evidence! I believe you've seen FNC games, but I don't see it in your words --> brain dead takes, and with all due respect... I haven't seen you around since FNC acquired SUMN FC. I have doubts!
BerkcanTheKing [#9]he took it personal
what? he is doing anything? you mean 3 op kills and get with knife kills with team support to took it personal
clocksky888 [#48]No, you haven't, if you're willing to comment low on one of Valorant's best players EVER and influence to other pro players! What, you don't agree? Then go ask any pro in the game... Please save me some laughter, kid. -------> You must give DERKE CREDIT for what he deserves and for his hard work. PERIOD!
Besides, it's not cool to dismiss any player without supporting evidence! I believe you've seen FNC games, but I don't see it in your words --> brain dead takes, and with all due respect... I haven't seen you around since FNC acquired SUMN FC. I have doubts!
lol i watched every fnatic match man. he is overrated af. he can't get kills without team support. he is good team player. i can agree with that. but he can't be a good jett & good raze player. look at his movement man. their are lot of jetts better than dorka
h786 [#50]bro lost and has nothing else to say!
i'm lost? crymore cringe fan boys. he is the most overrated player in VCT. that;s the truth
TomPachaya [#51]lol i watched every fnatic match man. he is overrated af. he can't get kills without team support. he is good team player. i can agree with that. but he can't be a good jett & good raze player. look at his movement man. their are lot of jetts better than dorka
No you didn't BISHHHH
And by the way, YOUR mom over my meds any day... any day, kiddo 😘
clocksky888 [#48]No, you haven't, if you're willing to comment low on one of Valorant's best players EVER and influence to other pro players! What, you don't agree? Then go ask any pro in the game... Please save me some laughter, kid. -------> You must give DERKE CREDIT for what he deserves and for his hard work. PERIOD!
Besides, it's not cool to dismiss any player without supporting evidence! I believe you've seen FNC games, but I don't see it in your words --> brain dead takes, and with all due respect... I haven't seen you around since FNC acquired SUMN FC. I have doubts!
they lost to sentinels in grand finals. bcz od derke underperforming
clocksky888 [#53]No you didn't BISHHHH
And by the way, YOUR mom over my meds any day... any day, kiddo 😘
your mom is in my bed kiddo. damn she is crazy man. cry is free cringe fan bois
TomPachaya [#54]they lost to sentinels in grand finals. bcz od derke underperforming
And what is your point? Is that an official FNC statement or your malnourished brain's fantasy?
YOUR malnourished brain's fantasy <--- more like it!
starxito_sike [#55]whats your rank? I asked you this 5 months ago still no reply
haha. why you need my rank. i told you i didn't play this game anymore. i just watch valorant matches. i don't have to time play valorant. and this dude think if they in high rank they have brain. man any player can speaking truth. no matter what rank they are
TomPachaya [#56]your mom is in my bed kiddo. damn she is crazy man. cry is free cringe fan bois
Ohh, forgot to ANOUNCE you that your DAD is applauding me ;-) Keep sucking, kid
clocksky888 [#57]And what is your point? Is that an official FNC statement or your malnourished brain's fantasy?
YOUR malnourished brain's fantasy <--- more like it!
you're blinded or braindead???? go touch some grass kid
clocksky888 [#59]Ohh, forgot to ANOUNCE you that your DAD is applauding me ;-) Keep sucking, kid
yeah you're dad clapping to me too. she is great man. i think he is not your father
TomPachaya [#60]you're blinded or braindead???? go touch some grass kid
Already touched your dead brain --- enough for the day
Back to my pocket, kid - don't be shy 🦄
clocksky888 [#62]Already touched your dead brain --- enough for the day
Back to my pocket, kid - don't be shy 🦄
man you doesn't have brain to dead. cringe fanboi
TomPachaya [#61]yeah you're dad clapping to me too. she is great man. i think he is not your father
OR rather he's clapping you 😘 ... tell me them feels later, piho
GreyDaze [#32]He cleared him at Copenhagen and istanbul🥱
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
what? dude put stats again. lol. derke is so trash look at his movements. he can't be good jett or raze. yeah he is good team player and best painshell player. i can agree with that
clocksky888 [#65]fanboi of your MUM 😘😂
im the fanboi of your MUM 😘😂 and your father is my fanboy dude 😂
TomPachaya [#67]
hahahaha... my poor child, you have a lot to learn!!!
I mean --> A LOT, my poor child 😂😂😂😂😂
P.S. At least edit the message as you contradict yourself --> YOU REPLIED TO OP here!
clocksky888 [#69]hahahaha... my poor child, you have a lot to learn!!!
I mean --> A LOT, my poor child 😂😂😂😂😂
P.S. At least edit the message as you contradict yourself --> YOU REPLIED TO OP here!
lol. i mistakenly replied. and that doesn't mean nothing kid. you need to learn about valorant first kid. and prove your brain in this comment again
TomPachaya [#68]im the fanboi of your MUM 😘😂 and your father is my fanboy dude 😂
GOT YOU!!! 😂
https://www.vlr.gg/post/2663244/derke
What is the matter --> already experience shaking hands syndrome or brain short circuit?
ADMIT or zip it up!
clocksky888 [#71]GOT YOU!!! 😂
https://www.vlr.gg/post/2663244/derke
What is the matter --> already experience shaking hands syndrome or brain short circuit?
ADMIT or zip it up!
you doesn't have to brain to dead kid
TomPachaya [#70]lol. i mistakenly replied. and that doesn't mean nothing kid. you need to learn about valorant first kid. and prove your brain in this comment again
YOU F-UP, kid even without realising it... no bueno, cabrón <-- Please pardon me for my terrible language, as it appears you still don't get it ... ffs, kiddo.
You have a lot to learn!!! and I mean --> A LOT, my poor child 😂😂😂😂😂
TomPachaya [#72]you doesn't have to brain to dead kid
"you doesn't have to brain to dead kid" - that your best come back ... why you even trying, at this point?
clocksky888 [#73]YOU F-UP, kid even without realising it... no bueno, cabrón <-- Please pardon me for my terrible language, as it appears you still don't get it ... ffs, kiddo.
You have a lot to learn!!! and I mean --> A LOT, my poor child 😂😂😂😂😂
haha this no brain kid says need lot of to learn for mistake. go touch some grass poor child 😂😂😂😂😂
TomPachaya [#75]haha this no brain kid says need lot of to learn for mistake. go touch some grass poor child 😂😂😂😂😂
QUIT IT --> you're not fun 🦄
azureblade101 [#41]this is true, duelist are easily the most replaceable.
You will never find a duelist like derke. He can play all the duelist at world-class level + he is a lanimal.
h786 [#42]true. no one else has mentioned this
I only realized it because I saw the VOD. The communication and encouragement from Derke were world-class.
Master_oGgway [#78]You will never find a duelist like derke. He can play all the duelist at world-class level + he is a lanimal.
lol
Master_oGgway [#78]You will never find a duelist like derke. He can play all the duelist at world-class level + he is a lanimal.
yeah he is lanimal. he is nothing without his team. he is good team player but 1v1 , 1v2 , 1v3 situations he is so bad. he is not good as his fans think. maybe he is best showstopper and painshell player
h786 [#4]hes coming for aspas
Pretty sure derke is far far ahead at this point because aspas will get grouped again
TomPachaya [#81]yeah he is lanimal. he is nothing without his team. he is good team player but 1v1 , 1v2 , 1v3 situations he is so bad. he is not good as his fans think. maybe he is best showstopper and painshell player
Bro he carried fnatic on his back before alfa. He is the best duelist in emea. You can't replace him and find a lanimal like him. Right now, his team is so good that he doesn't have to carry them like he did when brave and mistic were part of the roster
Master_oGgway [#83]Bro he carried fnatic on his back before alfa. He is the best duelist in emea. You can't replace him and find a lanimal like him. Right now, his team is so good that he doesn't have to carry them like he did when brave and mistic were part of the roster
what? bro thinks derke carry fnatic. fnatic lose to sentinels in grand finals. bcz derke underperfomance. and mistic is very good supporter they give great support to him. that's why derke get frags sometimes. yeah he is good team player. but he is not best duelist in emea. cned,sayf better solo duelist. and their are lot of underrated dulist in derke level like qw1 etc...
vitzsu [#5]fr derke is a fraud, if not for his superteam carrying the sit outta him he would be NAVI level at best
you win one game and you open your loudick sucking mouth to baffle loudly
TomPachaya [#58]haha. why you need my rank. i told you i didn't play this game anymore. i just watch valorant matches. i don't have to time play valorant. and this dude think if they in high rank they have brain. man any player can speaking truth. no matter what rank they are
Found the iron
TomPachaya [#84]what? bro thinks derke carry fnatic. fnatic lose to sentinels in grand finals. bcz derke underperfomance. and mistic is very good supporter they give great support to him. that's why derke get frags sometimes. yeah he is good team player. but he is not best duelist in emea. cned,sayf better solo duelist. and their are lot of underrated dulist in derke level like qw1 etc...
Brother, what dogshit team lets their duelist dry swing out with no support? He's disciplined enough to wait for util to increase his chances of winning fights. That's why they dominate teams.
voovoovoo [#85]you win one game and you open your loudick sucking mouth to baffle loudly
i posted this before loud won though
TomPachaya [#58]haha. why you need my rank. i told you i didn't play this game anymore. i just watch valorant matches. i don't have to time play valorant. and this dude think if they in high rank they have brain. man any player can speaking truth. no matter what rank they are
even owen 16 stomps you
TomPachaya [#84]what? bro thinks derke carry fnatic. fnatic lose to sentinels in grand finals. bcz derke underperfomance. and mistic is very good supporter they give great support to him. that's why derke get frags sometimes. yeah he is good team player. but he is not best duelist in emea. cned,sayf better solo duelist. and their are lot of underrated dulist in derke level like qw1 etc...
are you referencing 2 years ago to rate him as a player now? you just invalidated anything you said. youre completely delusional
Cinderific [#91]are you referencing 2 years ago to rate him as a player now? you just invalidated anything you said. youre completely delusional
Even now as a player, he is top 3 in the world. Duelisrs can't be replaceable, look at EG rn they struggled when jawgemo was on jett. Once they got demon1, they slowly started getting better
Master_oGgway [#94]Even now as a player, he is top 3 in the world. Duelisrs can't be replaceable, look at EG rn they struggled when jawgemo was on jett. Once they got demon1, they slowly started getting better
lol. he is not top #5 why every vlr users like this. annoying fanboys think he is good. but there are lot of duelist better than him. he is jyst good team player
TomPachaya [#96]lol. he is not top #5 why every vlr users like this. annoying fanboys think he is good. but there are lot of duelist better than him. he is jyst good team player
This is the most braindead thing I have ever heard. Name duelist better than him then
Cinderific [#91]are you referencing 2 years ago to rate him as a player now? you just invalidated anything you said. youre completely delusional
man i just reply he is saying derke carrying fnatic before alfajaer arrive. and you say a"re you referencing 2 years ago to rate him as a player now?"
Master_oGgway [#97]This is the most braindead thing I have ever heard. Name duelist better than him then
OMG? are you serious dude? or you doesn't hae brain or blind for him? there lot of duelist
aspas,cned,sayf,zmjkk,keznit completely better than him
and there are lot of duelist in his level like something,qw1 etc...
but most of them doesn't have good supporters
TomPachaya [#99]OMG? are you serious dude? or you doesn't hae brain or blind for him? there lot of duelist
aspas,cned,sayf,zmjkk,keznit completely better than him
and there are lot of duelist in his level like something,qw1 etc...
but most of them doesn't have good supporters
Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
lol. this dude. omg i can't believe this guy watched vct or blind.
https://www.vlr.gg/247093/fnatic-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-opening-c/?game=all&tab=performance
(this is reason match. and there are lot of matches other duelist diffed overated dorke. and don't foget he has best supporters. no one had supporters like this. dep diffed him without support. that's so bad man. anyone can aim diff dorka)
why every annoying dorka fanboys are blind
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
https://www.vlr.gg/213198/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
(diff by sayf)
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
https://www.vlr.gg/173222/fnatic-vs-bbl-esports-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w1/?game=all&tab=performance
(bro diffed by quitioner. and i didn't mentioned him 😂😂)
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance
(bro diffed by diamond1 twice in tokyo😂😂)
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
https://www.vlr.gg/220442/fnatic-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
(wait.... wtf? victor diffed derke? OMG)
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
(and this is what i lockin grand finals aspas diffed derke. actually it's so close. you need know in valorant any player can diff any player. derke is the worst player fnatic and completely overrated)
Master_oGgway [#100]Everyone you are talking have been diffed by derke. Derke as a player is better than everyone u mentioned except aspas. Aspas is the only one who goes toe to toe with derke. If you seriously think these are players that are better than derke then you know nothing
can you asking something. you ever watched VCT bro? this dude know nothing about anything and blame other to don't know nothing. LOL
i know you're fanboy but accept that. their are lot of dueslis better than overrated dorka
TomPachaya [#105]https://www.vlr.gg/220442/fnatic-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
(wait.... wtf? victor diffed derke? OMG)
stfu iron ass mf, you are literally bringing 1v1s between them, who had the highest rating and more impact in the match lil bro? Every link you gave derke had more impact, you dont want your duelists to drypeek without any utility, that would be suicide but your iron ass does not understand that. You need support to win duels especially if you are a duelist, derke does not need to drop like 30 bombs because he does not have those pressure he had back in 2021 or 2022, he has teammates who he knows can frag and win matched too, by the argument you were making of derke needing support for duels, i already know you are iron since EVERY DUELISTS NEEDS UTILITIES TO PEEK AND WIN DUELS you braindead fuck
number1_cned_hater [#3]in pro valorant its not just about kills brother
if derke get lucky kills and being top frag fanboys say - "woow dorka is definitely in top #5 duelists"
but dorka didn't get kills - "in pro valorant its not just about kills brother"
starxito_sike [#108]stfu iron ass mf, you are literally bringing 1v1s between them, who had the highest rating and more impact in the match lil bro? Every link you gave derke had more impact, you dont want your duelists to drypeek without any utility, that would be suicide but your iron ass does not understand that. You need support to win duels especially if you are a duelist, derke does not need to drop like 30 bombs because he does not have those pressure he had back in 2021 or 2022, he has teammates who he knows can frag and win matched too, by the argument you were making of derke needing support for duels, i already know you are iron since EVERY DUELISTS NEEDS UTILITIES TO PEEK AND WIN DUELS you braindead fuck
OMG #1 derke fanboi is still there. lol. he is shit. everyone knows that (who had brain)
starxito_sike [#108]stfu iron ass mf, you are literally bringing 1v1s between them, who had the highest rating and more impact in the match lil bro? Every link you gave derke had more impact, you dont want your duelists to drypeek without any utility, that would be suicide but your iron ass does not understand that. You need support to win duels especially if you are a duelist, derke does not need to drop like 30 bombs because he does not have those pressure he had back in 2021 or 2022, he has teammates who he knows can frag and win matched too, by the argument you were making of derke needing support for duels, i already know you are iron since EVERY DUELISTS NEEDS UTILITIES TO PEEK AND WIN DUELS you braindead fuck
lol lol lol imagine diffed by victor
starxito_sike [#108]stfu iron ass mf, you are literally bringing 1v1s between them, who had the highest rating and more impact in the match lil bro? Every link you gave derke had more impact, you dont want your duelists to drypeek without any utility, that would be suicide but your iron ass does not understand that. You need support to win duels especially if you are a duelist, derke does not need to drop like 30 bombs because he does not have those pressure he had back in 2021 or 2022, he has teammates who he knows can frag and win matched too, by the argument you were making of derke needing support for duels, i already know you are iron since EVERY DUELISTS NEEDS UTILITIES TO PEEK AND WIN DUELS you braindead fuck
go sleep kid. annoying cringe fan bois
starxito_sike [#108]stfu iron ass mf, you are literally bringing 1v1s between them, who had the highest rating and more impact in the match lil bro? Every link you gave derke had more impact, you dont want your duelists to drypeek without any utility, that would be suicide but your iron ass does not understand that. You need support to win duels especially if you are a duelist, derke does not need to drop like 30 bombs because he does not have those pressure he had back in 2021 or 2022, he has teammates who he knows can frag and win matched too, by the argument you were making of derke needing support for duels, i already know you are iron since EVERY DUELISTS NEEDS UTILITIES TO PEEK AND WIN DUELS you braindead fuck
why are you triggered kid. i just reply to him cuz he said derke diffed everone. i just want to prove actually derke getting diffed by everyone and it's doesn't mean player is good or bad. in valorant anyone can diffed any player. and your point is completely sucks
GreyDaze [#32]He cleared him at Copenhagen and istanbul🥱
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
wait what? he clears him cpenhagen and istanbul??? atleast they didn't play any match there.
this is the first time thay played against each other and that fight aspas win by +1
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
(in valorant anyone can diffed anyone. but derke is complately overrated player. there are lot of duelist in his level and some better than him)
TomPachaya [#23]he can get kills without team support?
if that's the case then aspas and yay haven't done shit. Duelist's main role is to create space and then get kills. Every team bases the idea of supporting duelist so he can frag. and if derke was that trash then the team would have kicked him before last champs. All you have against him is that he cannot kill without team support which is not the case And he has 82% clutch rate with entry frag being S tier. At Iceland he was impatient and overpeeking and that's one of the reasons why fnc lost final. the derke of now is much more improved and that's why your take has no value or meaning
TomPachaya [#113]why are you triggered kid. i just reply to him cuz he said derke diffed everone. i just want to prove actually derke getting diffed by everyone and it's doesn't mean player is good or bad. in valorant anyone can diffed any player. and your point is completely sucks
lil bro just tell me your rank the last time you played valorant
number1_cned_hater [#3]in pro valorant its not just about kills brother
in pro valorant it's not just about kills. then there are lot of duelists better than this overrated dorka
(actually i agree with that in "in pro valorant its not just about kills" and you need to agree with that too "there are lot of underrated duelist in derke level and some are better than derka")
starxito_sike [#116]lil bro just tell me your rank the last time you played valorant
lol why fanbois like this. loosing arguements and started to say "what is your rank bro?" 😂😂
what the connection of this argument and my rank? dude check your brain bro
K2215 [#115]if that's the case then aspas and yay haven't done shit. Duelist's main role is to create space and then get kills. Every team bases the idea of supporting duelist so he can frag. and if derke was that trash then the team would have kicked him before last champs. All you have against him is that he cannot kill without team support which is not the case And he has 82% clutch rate with entry frag being S tier. At Iceland he was impatient and overpeeking and that's one of the reasons why fnc lost final. the derke of now is much more improved and that's why your take has no value or meaning
he is still overrated af. there are lot of duelsit who can do that. but he is good team player and best painshell & showstopper player always getting value from that. i don't think he is s tier jett. cuz his movement not good comparing to aspas,kk,something,keznit and his op flicks not thir level too
TomPachaya [#119]he is still overrated af. there are lot of duelsit who can do that. but he is good team player and best painshell & showstopper player always getting value from that. i don't think he is s tier jett. cuz his movement not good comparing to aspas,kk,something,keznit and his op flicks not thir level too
I'd argue he is top 3 and he never played jett in past 2 months (offical) so he is rusty. And about movement he doesn't need it. You say others are better because you see their flashy plays, derke isn't needed to do that because he is never in that situation. Derke in 2022 did all the flasy plays when team needed. And the guys you mentioned are mostly jett 1 trick. KK is great at op and jett but his raze sucks ass and they barely beat giants, keznit did all the weightlifting and still lost. aspas failed in tokyo cause he couldn't perform on jett or neon. derke is top 3 jett (something and aspas better) and top 2 raze (jing better). He is equally good at raze and jett , he does his entry and he frags WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!
TomPachaya [#28]he can get kills without team support?
Idk how to tell you this but valorant is a TEAM GAME. If your duelist is raw peeking every fight the team is doing something wrong.
Bro giving Derke shit for playing the game right.
Pondy [#123]Idk how to tell you this but valorant is a TEAM GAME. If your duelist is raw peeking every fight the team is doing something wrong.
Bro giving Derke shit for playing the game right.
that's why i'm telling derke is overrated. thare are lot of underrated duelist in derke level who doesn't had good supporters. derke is good team player i accept that
K2215 [#121]I'd argue he is top 3 and he never played jett in past 2 months (offical) so he is rusty. And about movement he doesn't need it. You say others are better because you see their flashy plays, derke isn't needed to do that because he is never in that situation. Derke in 2022 did all the flasy plays when team needed. And the guys you mentioned are mostly jett 1 trick. KK is great at op and jett but his raze sucks ass and they barely beat giants, keznit did all the weightlifting and still lost. aspas failed in tokyo cause he couldn't perform on jett or neon. derke is top 3 jett (something and aspas better) and top 2 raze (jing better). He is equally good at raze and jett , he does his entry and he frags WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!
derke is best paintshell and showstopper player he always getting value from that. but his raze sucks too he never can be jinggg,nukkye,jawgemo level. and kangkang raze is not that bad he is overconfidnce player but if you watch
https://www.vlr.gg/124201/edward-gaming-vs-northeption-champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier-ubf/?game=93936&tab=overview
that match you never say kang kang raze trash. derke is not even top 5 raze bro their are lot of raze players better than him. but he is good with paintshell and showstopper.
whzy,bunny (free agent) and their are lot of underrated raze players better than him.
and jett cned definitly better than derka and sayf is good too.
their are lot of jetts i foegot mention in derke level and better than him
TomPachaya [#118]lol why fanbois like this. loosing arguements and started to say "what is your rank bro?" 😂😂
what the connection of this argument and my rank? dude check your brain bro
there is connection lil bro, if you were a higher rank you will not be going around saying why is derke needing support to win fights. Plus you are contradicting almost everyone in this thread so yeah tell me your rank last time you played, simple question man you just need to type a word thats all
TomPachaya [#126]derke is best paintshell and showstopper player he always getting value from that. but his raze sucks too he never can be jinggg,nukkye,jawgemo level. and kangkang raze is not that bad he is overconfidnce player but if you watch
https://www.vlr.gg/124201/edward-gaming-vs-northeption-champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier-ubf/?game=93936&tab=overview
that match you never say kang kang raze trash. derke is not even top 5 raze bro their are lot of raze players better than him. but he is good with paintshell and showstopper.
whzy,bunny (free agent) and their are lot of underrated raze players better than him.
and jett cned definitly better than derka and sayf is good too.
their are lot of jetts i foegot mention in derke level and better than him
I don't think you get the point here
- That match of kang kang was against Northemption that's a t2 team.
- No one except in chine who whzy was until nrg game. Bunny is a streamer and joined F4Q for the LCQ and masters.
- Cned peaked at champs 2021 and hasn't been in the same form consistently(partly navi's fault). Sayf is also way too inconsistent.
4.If you are pulling just stats then derke has better numbers than most of them - Derke is consistent for the past 3 years , tell me someone who is as consistent as he is, maybe victor but he plays raze at
certain maps only.
As for stats, you've seen his raze for the past few months and only jing is better at fragging with consistency.
And for jett
https://www.vlr.gg/183951/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119209&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167368/sentinels-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16/?game=113100&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/69012/guild-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-week-4/?game=70247&tab=overview
HE IS AT THE TOP CAUSE HE IS CONSISTENT
clocksky888 [#53]No you didn't BISHHHH
And by the way, YOUR mom over my meds any day... any day, kiddo 😘
You owned this fraud fr
K2215 [#128]I don't think you get the point here
- That match of kang kang was against Northemption that's a t2 team.
- No one except in chine who whzy was until nrg game. Bunny is a streamer and joined F4Q for the LCQ and masters.
- Cned peaked at champs 2021 and hasn't been in the same form consistently(partly navi's fault). Sayf is also way too inconsistent.
4.If you are pulling just stats then derke has better numbers than most of them- Derke is consistent for the past 3 years , tell me someone who is as consistent as he is, maybe victor but he plays raze at
certain maps only.
As for stats, you've seen his raze for the past few months and only jing is better at fragging with consistency.
And for jett
https://www.vlr.gg/183951/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119209&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167368/sentinels-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16/?game=113100&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/69012/guild-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-week-4/?game=70247&tab=overviewHE IS AT THE TOP CAUSE HE IS CONSISTENT
bro tier 2 whats the point?? tier 2 not that bad. yay can't performe so well in tier 2.
i agree sayf not consistent. then derke is not consistent too
bunny is very good raze when he plays to F4W
and whzy is very good player. no matter china or what
don't put stats. anyone can put stats their good matches.
i can put stats derke bad matches too
TomPachaya [#130]bro tier 2 whats the point?? tier 2 not that bad. yay can't performe so well in tier 2.
i agree sayf not consistent. then derke is not consistent too
bunny is very good raze when he plays to F4W
and whzy is very good player. no matter china or what
don't put stats. anyone can put stats their good matches.
i can put stats derke bad matches too
there you have it , you have said it yourself. yay can't perform in t2? why? he needs team support and so does every duelist. your main disscusion was that he needs team support and that's nullfied. T2 is kinda bad , we have so much gap between the teams in general that no one takes t2 seriously.
All i'm saying is that derke's consistency is higher than the most and you would know if you watch fnatic like me.
although the closest to him are zekken,keznit,qw1 who play both jett and raze at high level.
I don't have anything more to support my take and if you still aren't sold on him then just see him win champs.
K2215 [#128]I don't think you get the point here
- That match of kang kang was against Northemption that's a t2 team.
- No one except in chine who whzy was until nrg game. Bunny is a streamer and joined F4Q for the LCQ and masters.
- Cned peaked at champs 2021 and hasn't been in the same form consistently(partly navi's fault). Sayf is also way too inconsistent.
4.If you are pulling just stats then derke has better numbers than most of them- Derke is consistent for the past 3 years , tell me someone who is as consistent as he is, maybe victor but he plays raze at
certain maps only.
As for stats, you've seen his raze for the past few months and only jing is better at fragging with consistency.
And for jett
https://www.vlr.gg/183951/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119209&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167368/sentinels-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16/?game=113100&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/69012/guild-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-week-4/?game=70247&tab=overviewHE IS AT THE TOP CAUSE HE IS CONSISTENT
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K2215 [#131]there you have it , you have said it yourself. yay can't perform in t2? why? he needs team support and so does every duelist. your main disscusion was that he needs team support and that's nullfied. T2 is kinda bad , we have so much gap between the teams in general that no one takes t2 seriously.
All i'm saying is that derke's consistency is higher than the most and you would know if you watch fnatic like me.
although the closest to him are zekken,keznit,qw1 who play both jett and raze at high level.
I don't have anything more to support my take and if you still aren't sold on him then just see him win champs.
that's why i said derke is overrated he had good supporters. but there are lot underrated duelsits who doesn;t have good supporters
TomPachaya [#133]that's why i said derke is overrated he had good supporters. but there are lot underrated duelsits who doesn;t have good supporters
Name 5 duelist who play both jett and raze with bad support
TomPachaya [#102]https://www.vlr.gg/213198/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
(diff by sayf)
All 3 fnstic players had an off day
TomPachaya [#101]lol. this dude. omg i can't believe this guy watched vct or blind.
https://www.vlr.gg/247093/fnatic-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-opening-c/?game=all&tab=performance
(this is reason match. and there are lot of matches other duelist diffed overated dorke. and don't foget he has best supporters. no one had supporters like this. dep diffed him without support. that's so bad man. anyone can aim diff dorka)
why every annoying dorka fanboys are blind
He played jett after a long time and he did bad this one game.
TomPachaya [#113]why are you triggered kid. i just reply to him cuz he said derke diffed everone. i just want to prove actually derke getting diffed by everyone and it's doesn't mean player is good or bad. in valorant anyone can diffed any player. and your point is completely sucks
He did. You just picked the games he played bad. It seems u are the one who doesn't watch vct. Arguing with u is like teaching calculus to a goldfish.
The_Cleg [#129]You owned this fraud fr
Man, that guy is plain rude, neglectful, and hating for no reason - started beefing like there was no tomorrow - Holyyy cringe!
He even dared to claim that he watches Fnatic games. Like, seriously? I hope he was simply trolling cause if not, Ijust can't LMAO.
TomPachaya [#125]that's why i'm telling derke is overrated. thare are lot of underrated duelist in derke level who doesn't had good supporters. derke is good team player i accept that
What do you want him to do? Run 10 years ahead of his team and 2v1'd every round like Dep?
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