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Definitive Rankings/Tiers for NA Teams

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#1
KnowledgeableOne

These rankings (top 20) are backed up statistics and actual tournament results and not a bunch of 1head takes made by these forums. To avoid bias - I am a TSM fan. Split into Upper Tier 1/Lower Tier 1/Tier 2. Just because FaZe or NRG drops to no-names it doesn't auto make them Tier 2. Consider these ranking post-Viper and Astra meta which means Masters 1 NA results don't hold as much weight:

UPPER TIER 1
1 - Sentinels
2 - Version1
3 - Cloud 9

In rebuttal to the argument that 100T/Envy should be above C9:
Albeit C9 recent ranking is due to their most recent success, it is without a doubt the C9 roster might be the most mechanically gifted roster in all of North America. Especially with the integration of Xeppaa, it's hard to believe their most recent Challengers Finals appearance (placing third ahead of Envy and 100T) is merely a fluke. C9 is also the only team that has not dropped a Map to what would be considered Lower Tier One/Tier Two.

4 - Envy - Up a Head to Head versus 100T + More consistent and with the integration of Marved, that doesn't seem to change
5 - 100T
6 - ANDBOX
7 - XSET

In rebuttal to the argument that XSET should be above ANDBOX:
XSET lacks any definitive win against any of the aforementioned teams while ANDBOX does (most notably Sentinels). While arguments could be made that w/ Zekken, XSET now becomes better than ANDBOX, it's hard to compare that to yay now transitioning to full-time duelist and the addition of jcstani. The argument can be made for either side, however ANDBOX's match results are way more favorable than XSET.

LOWER TIER ONE -
8 - T1

As surprising as this sounds, just think about it and don't let your unconscious bias take over. This roster has secured a win versus a FaZe roster that just came off a second place finish at Masters, and took a map off 100T, Sentinels, and Envy - a feat none of the other teams can manage to replicate. If you think any of the other teams below this team can beat T1 then you haven't seen a recent match played by any of the teams below T1. I am willing to entertain arguments about why maybe another team is deserving of this place, but considering the recent performances (TSM, Immortals, NRG) and T1's performance versus Envy - it is clearly T1 deserving of this ranking. Besides this is a roster that is working with two new pieces - give dawn time and hence why T1's stock will only rise with the next stage.

Now while it is true that NRG and Immortals did both get upset and showed flashes of incompetence:
9 - Immortals - The loss of Kehmicals seems to have done more harm, but same with NRG - give the roster time.
10 - NRG Esports - I think this team became worse losing Daps, however I do think that the roster will come back.
11 - Gen.G
12 - FaZe Clan
13 - TSM
14 - LG - objectively the worst team - benching your best player and picking up two T2 prospects is not doing this team any favors. The only saving grace is YaBoiDre.

TIER 2
T15. Ghost Gaming - The addition of Koalanoob and HUYNH has only made this roster better - especially since we see a HUYNH playing agents that aren't Jett.
T15. DarkZero - Closest team to T1 IMO but don't really know how they stack up to Ghost. Beat FaZe and nearly beat XSET.

  1. Soniqs - One map off of Sentinels is impressive but this team looks like they can only play Icebox...
  2. Noble - Very, very strong performances this tournament, beating TSM and scaring 100T fans everywhere
  3. Rise - Meh team but beat BBG
  4. BBG - Perhaps complexity should be here but I think this team got better with the addition of Trill.

Rankings will be updated following tomorrow's matches.

#2
kindereggmodel
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weird take.... could play out to be correct. making a tier list rn during a tournament is also a rlly bad thing to do

#3
PawanSapkota
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I agree, even though i didnt read

#4
HackNaija
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huynh literally went a map without getting a kill... not above soniqs LOL. DarkZero maybe, but i have to disagree. LG better than TSM

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PawanSapkota
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PawanSapkota [#3]

I agree, even though i didnt read

i just looked at the rankings, cant be bothered to read a 600-800 word essay rn

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HackNaija
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HackNaija [#4]

huynh literally went a map without getting a kill... not above soniqs LOL. DarkZero maybe, but i have to disagree. LG better than TSM

awful ranking watch valorant with your eyes please

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number_1_bjor_fan
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PawanSapkota [#5]

i just looked at the rankings, cant be bothered to read a 600-800 word essay rn

i just read where the teams were ranked, if it confused me i read the reasoning i think it was reasonable

#8
Swiftmal
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Soniqs are better than DZ

#9
EU_quiet
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Where is baitpolicie when we need him. Send this man to jail... for not putting TSM T2

#10
Netero
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TSM TIER 1? KEKW

#11
Viktor22
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nice rank, but what definition of tier you use? because if you think that a tier is a group of teams that can beat each other I disagree with this list, though I liked all teams placements

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ChupappiWardell
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Netero [#10]

TSM TIER 1? KEKW

ikr tsm should be upper tier 1 not lower headass

#13
ChupappiWardell
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TSM SHOULD BE UPPER TIER 1 NOT LOWER HEADASS

#14
oggie
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Very good take. I think in the near future we could easily see C9 take the 2nd spot over Version1

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ranker11
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HackNaija [#4]

huynh literally went a map without getting a kill... not above soniqs LOL. DarkZero maybe, but i have to disagree. LG better than TSM

so huynh was basically potterfragging kekw

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ranker11
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Faze and TSM outta meta cuz they just still play puggy. They were tier 1 when run and gun was easy. TSM even ran triple duelist comp but now the game is more about reading your opponents strats and countering them and hard reading their rotation

#17
BadValoPlayer
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Top 5 makes sense, but it's pretty hard to determine beyond that

#18
DarthHippo
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This did not age well

#19
bloodysky
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Make an update after the first closed

#20
Asphyxia
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Here's a new slightly revised tier list for u. Idk unlucky really but ur preds did go really badly.

Upper T1:
SEN
ENVY
XSET
100T

Lower T1:
GEN.G(could be upper and above ENVY honestly if they keep it up)
Version 1
Rise
KCP
Soniqs
C9(probably)
ABX

Upper T2:
DarkZero
T1
Noble
LG
Virtuoso
RNG
EG
COL
Ghost

Lower T2:
IMT(Can improve bc heavy roster changes)
NRG(Can improve bc heavy roster changes)
FaZe
TSM

I just placed the failures in bottom of T2. IMT actually are trying to improve so I put them at the top of it bc they can easily improve.

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Crayzid
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DarthHippo [#18]

This did not age well

Rankings will be updated following tomorrow's matches.

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Asphyxia
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Asphyxia [#20]

Here's a new slightly revised tier list for u. Idk unlucky really but ur preds did go really badly.

Upper T1:
SEN
ENVY
XSET
100T

Lower T1:
GEN.G(could be upper and above ENVY honestly if they keep it up)
Version 1
Rise
KCP
Soniqs
C9(probably)
ABX

Upper T2:
DarkZero
T1
Noble
LG
Virtuoso
RNG
EG
COL
Ghost

Lower T2:
IMT(Can improve bc heavy roster changes)
NRG(Can improve bc heavy roster changes)
FaZe
TSM

I just placed the failures in bottom of T2. IMT actually are trying to improve so I put them at the top of it bc they can easily improve.

This is super biased and this is gonna go so badly next challengers but I feel like some T2 teams were left out. EG are honestly upper Tier 2 if they just utilize their players well. Not sure where to place YFP and BBG though.

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ilikerubikscubes
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Asphyxia [#22]

This is super biased and this is gonna go so badly next challengers but I feel like some T2 teams were left out. EG are honestly upper Tier 2 if they just utilize their players well. Not sure where to place YFP and BBG though.

Soniqs need to go down a bit.. EG too

#24
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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What does "backed up by statistics and not 1head takes" mean? Did you utilize some sort of quantitative measure to order this list?

#25
Casual
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#24]

What does "backed up by statistics and not 1head takes" mean? Did you utilize some sort of quantitative measure to order this list?

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