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If americas were the better regions then why did l0ud and eg choke twice against them? we are just so clear its sad to see how you dogs 🐕 cope. starting to think the hate is racially motivated

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Best team does not equal best region.

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yes it does 🤣🐕

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Well, not best team doesn’t equal to best region either. Feel like we’re confusing concepts

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That's why you have to look at depth of region and placements of regions as a whole. Americas outperformed EMEA when it came to placements at Tokyo.

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Americas had NRG beat TL at the buzzer and that was the only placement they got better. If 1 spot and having LOUD bomb out groups compensates loosing the finals and as you say getting “outperformed” in the previous event, then sure guess Americas is better lol

You guys talk like if top5 was 4/5 teams Americas and EMEA didn’t have any team in Playoffs lol

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I don't think Americas is clear of EMEA like a lot of fans but given the context of having 4 teams at Tokyo the "best region" should have more teams in the top 4 then Americas.

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Why top 4 matters? Why not top 6? EMEA and NA had equal amount of teams in top 6.

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Because EMEA has 4 spots, so I use the max number of teams possible to have at a certain point in the process of determining regional strength. Also, EMEA historically is supposed to be the strongest region so the fact that NA let alone Americas is competing is crazy to me.

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BS argument. There's no correlation between EMEA amount of spots, and looking at top-4 of Tokyo because it's convenient to you.

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EMEA had 4 slots that's why I look a top 4. If EMEA had all for teams in top 4 we could determine they are by far the best region. If there were 3 spots for every region, I would look a top 3 instead.

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There's no logic behind this. You're making up stuff that's convenient to you, so you can say "NA is better".

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This literally doesn't mean anything lol

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It does. EMEA has 4 spots, so they have a higher likelihood of having higher placing teams especially when they're considered the best region. I do this with every region in any game. EX: Rocket league majors have 5 teams from NA and EU so I use 5-6th as one factor in determining which region is better. It is not the only factor, but I use it in helping me decide which region is better.

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Where's the proof that Cloud9 is better than Navi or Futbolist?

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If EU had top 4 and NA had top 5 and 6, definitely NA would be better yeah

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ZETA placed 3rd at Masters Iceland 2022. By your logic, it would make Japan the best region in the world at that time, as it was represented with just 1 team.

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Isn’t that implying that Americas 4th seed would have made top 4? You can’t just add bottom teams and expect them to make top four

Also by that logic Americas is better because of a single OT between TL and NRG that determines who has more teams in top 4

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No, because it's unrealistic to expect all four team from a region to get top four unless that region is massively better than the others. So, if Liquid FNC NRG and EG made top 4, but FNC still won my opinion would be swayed because of how close the regions are right now.

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Logic is a language too complex for these people to comprehend, it is okay.

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the best region should have more teams in the top 1

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That's impossible as only one team can be top 1. Which is FNC.

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more teams than 0

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Thank you for conforming that you have no argument and think that best team equals best region. Refer to # 4 please.

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top 6 same amount, u don't care, top 4 americas has more, u care somehow. Top 1 emea wins. U don't care.
Ur a clown

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I mean, we can also point out that EG beat Fut and Liquid, NRG beat NaVi and Liquid.

The only EMEA teams at playoffs were the ones that skipped groups (Thanks to Fnatic again)

EMEA besides Fnatic only won against China (EDG and ASE)

We dont have to be genius to accept that, at this moment, NA is way better than EMEA, probably next season it will be different, because at this moment the emea talents are scattered among diff teams instead of another superteam

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the other two EMEA teams were disappointing but overall the placements were similar. plus in LCQ many EMEA teams improved except for NAVI whereas many Americas teams other than KRU look like they stagnated. there is no superior region, teams win games, not regions.

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bro really came back just to waffle

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🧇🤓

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because now champs just has a bunch of filler trash teams

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Giants and KOI/Navi aren't "filler trash teams"

That would be a description of BLG, FPX, T1 and ZETA.

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fr.
they are worse than filler trash teams

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Yeah idk why you guys hate their added slots. It's just more free win for our regions.

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Yeah, APAC is notorious for dominating EMEA (except it never happened)

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😂😂 closest they ever got was fpx vs prx

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DRX 4-0 FPX at champs

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Any more examples? We're just gonna forget how at every other tournament EMEA performed much better?

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PRX vs guild and FNC. Also not saying EMEA sucks just pointing out that APAC has beaten EMEA before

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🤡 <--- typical eu fan

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How many international wins APAC has?

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doesnt matter, apac just better
PRX with Ilya > any team

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WHAT???

Are you saying APAC is better than EMEA? Well, that's a good question actually...

And who exactly is "Ilya"... Oh, sorry, I see you meant "smth"... So, in this case, why don't you go ask Ilya himself? What does he think of your seemingly "unbiased" opinion - PRX with Ilya > any team? I am convinced that he is a far more humble and weighted individual who is also respectful and will give you the correct answer. go go ask him ;)

P.S. Regarding PRX and your claim... https://i.imgur.com/OBsUHfF.jpeg (26/08/2022, 19:14)... perhaps PRX should be concerned with winning (not a scrim match) vs. local EMEA stack teams (excellent ones, ngl) and only then, with or without Ilya the saviour, be compared in "> any team" scenario?

Or maybe you just plain DUMB and a 🤡 for stating all of that?

BTW, DUMB is not a horrible adjective to use to describe you.

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allat

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Ohh I see "allat" is a new 🤡 then... good for you, and welcome to the club, my child.

Keep your braindead takes to yourself

And no need to hide behind pro teams and certain pro players as well as FRAMING them in your favour - NOT COOL!

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ты должен поддерживать своих людей

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я не еу, долбаеб, выучи географию своей страны придурок

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🤓🤓🤓

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Иди лучше открой карту России, а не тут сиди идиот

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🤓🤓🤓

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Причём тут география? Большинство русских живёт в Европе + большинство наших игроков играет за европейские команды

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Что это меняет? Я должен поддерживать челов которые находятся в тысячах киллометров от меня? Если ты так считаешь то ты сука ебланище

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Что ты вообще несёшь чел
Сначала что-то про географию сказал, затем высрал что-то про расстояние, что это вообще меняет, может пояснишь?

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Ну тебе видимо не дано понять. Иди лучше болей за нави, а то вдруг они худшей тиме в eu проиграют

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Прикольная отмазка
Просто скажи то что ты не знаешь чем ответить, даже если между вами большое расстояние, то вы всё равно оба остаётесь русскими 💀

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DF is wrong with you LMAO ... What a vile individual you are, gee... you literally squirt negativity all over the place ... chill df

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Im not complaining, free wins for NA, 0 wins against NA btw without lnatic

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EMEA is the most successful region, therefore, there will be many jealous people, it is what it is.

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as an eu fan, we are horrible and deserve the hate 😔

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They're just jealous because we are the better region. No other region has even won a trophy this year, and you want to take our slots? KKKKKKKKKKKKK

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b0tvi flair lol

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Clown9 flair 😂🤓

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C9 > every eu team except FNATIC (if C9 dont choke)

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Free wins for APAC and Americas teams. I don’t see an issue lol

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Honestly, it's because people want to be assholes and annoy EMEA fans which it seems to be working

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Crap logic. just because FNC performed doesn't mean the rest of EMEA are at their caliber lol

why so much hate to EMEA over champions slots?

WHAT???

BTW, DUMB is not a horrible adjective to use to describe you.

Keep your braindead takes to yourself