Sinatraa | VLR.gg

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I was not in the valorant community when the incident happened. So for a long time I thought he was a rapist. But after reading babysasuke's comments, i realised than his ex didn't provide the evidence to the police, so technically he is innocent??? (I have no clue I'm just talking out my ass. Someone fill me in as to why is he still getting hate if he wasn't convicted???)

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becuz people tend to side with the victim so that's why everyone hates him

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Marhuee

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nah its jut becouse she is a women and people think they dont lie

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Common Marhuee W

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Tenz fans get some insecurity and some shit of him coz tenz replaced him in sen before masters
And everyone knows he is a better player than tenz so uk
Every pro put sinatraa above tenz in pro play and ofc if got the chance of playing again he would have outshined tenz

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noxx

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they dont even play the same role, bros more delusional than aimbotneon

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I know but it is what it is

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Zaynio

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Actually, Sinatraa played one of TenZ's roles. He frequented Raze and Phoenix on maps like Bind, split, and haven. He was a star player for his ability to flex any agent. All TenZ did was force shahzam to play more sova on maps that Sinatraa played sova.

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and they won a international tournament flawlessly and TenZ led the whole tournament in ACS HS% Operator KPR, KD, you are braindead.

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noxx

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you forgot the part were he omega giga carried them through multiple OT games which otherwise couldve been way different and also you dont become the highest rated player and the player with the highest acs by a pretty large margin and ALSO it wasnt like how fnatic won 4 of them were on the top 5 players on that tourney, it was shahz and sick who came 4th and 5th in top 5 players in that tourney which shows how important tenz was

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33AJ

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After tenz replaced him They literally won masters with tenz being mvp

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TheMonk

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And after that fluke win?
Atm tenz is not among top 10 duelists and far away from top 30 best players itw

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well obviously not now but he was at the time...?

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well theres no way of telling that they wouldn't have dont the same with sinatraa, and then go on to be more consistent and not fluke out of tier 1 basically

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wiki

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i'm not using this to flame sinatraa, more saying it definitely wasn't a fluke win (i'm from EU btw) as tenz was probs one of, if not the best player at the time. also i don't think they fluked out of t1, they didn't get any form of coaching staff and continued to play a ridiculously loose style, their failure to adapt to the new scene led to them being knocked out.

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crazy how you said fluke when they were dominant, not dropping a single map LMFAO
also to answer your question, even if they had sinatraa instead of tenz in berlin, it won't change anything lil bro💀

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3 fluke wins b2b? LMAO. TenZ won 2 masters b2b , you are clueless

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kaesra

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so technically he is innocent???

yeaa but riot doesn't really want him back to the pro scene so he's kinda blacklisted i think??

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Nah the ban is over

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kaesra

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i know the ban is over but im pretty sure riot told teams to not sign sinatraa iirc

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Halleluhwah

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idk if they did but it'd be unnecessary, nobody wants to sign him bc it's a pr nightmare

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hanafuuji

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true no one would ever signed him, just look at pancc's twitter every The Union game lmao

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exin1x

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ban is completely over, he is allowed and completely free to participate in franchising if he wanted to, but 1. he's mentioned a couple of times he doesn't want to/doesn't care enough (could be joking) 2. sentinels was planning to drop zombs for sinatraa but they decided the pr was gonna be horrid so picked up kanpeki instead 3. as mentioned earlier, it would be a pr nightmare for any team 4. he hasn't really competed in t1/2 probably even 3 in almost 2.5 years, so unless he's been scrimming behind the scenes i doubt any t1/2 team would willingly pick him up so fast

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is the zombs thing confirmed? Never heard about that

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yep

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No, the teams won't sign him because he is a huge pr liability

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tinted

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It was a big twitter drama thing but there was no proof that stuff did or didn’t happen. People choose to believe what they want, and that’s that

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Halleluhwah

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wasn't there a recording of him pressuring though?

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mosthatedplayersRise

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It’s not really as clear cut as people say it is

https://youtu.be/LTernT33gIk

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Al-Mawsil

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she took it out of context for all we know it could be some weird kinky shit, she also said she had the whole video with the full context but she never presented it in court or anywhere

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the Union should sign sinatraa and jasonr

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Fr
Then add zombs

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cocoluna

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Let him cook 🔥

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The misogyny warriors would go so crazy. Fire their coach and get Carlos in there too fuck it

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CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN

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im sorry but regardless of sinatraa, I just think its funny you got your info from babysasuke

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Master_oGgway

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Babysasuke source: "babybay voice in my head"

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Tyzehhxo

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Yeah look problem is regardless if it was proven or not he’s just such a large brand risk. Those sort of allegations are career ending. I’m not picking a side between who was right and who was wrong because the whole situation was handled terribly by both parties, but sad reality is orgs are too scared to sign him because of the public backlash it’ll cause. I think he’s well aware of that now and that’s probably why you see him just stick to his own lane in contention creation.

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Master_oGgway

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I think he wants to stick to content creation because he got a big offer from the pacific team and salary was huge but he rejected

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samhatts

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The pacific team? Lots of money....... probably bleed

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h786

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ah yes the "both sides fallacy". it is either abuse or it isn't. its simple.

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But he is right tho, the girl didn’t provide evidence and the guy didn’t comply with the investigation, literally both sides are dipshits

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Tyzehhxo

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Yeah I was referring to how poor both sides handled it. He didn’t cooperate with an investigation, then came out and said he would bring fourth evidence that proved his innocence to which he never did. She claimed she was going to release more concrete evidence that backed more of her claims but never did it either. I don’t have an opinion on who’s right and who’s wrong because there is always 3 sides to a story, his side, her side and the truth. Im not sure what the bloke above was getting heated about, appreciate you commenting though.

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Some mfs never learnt how to interpret text

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Tyzehhxo

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Wasn’t even that hard to understand either 💀 legit said both parties just handled the situation poorly, if people think either Sinatraa or her handled it to the best of their abilities then you’re straight LYING to yourself hahaha.

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i hate sinatraa because he's somewhat the pioneer of val e-boy

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Jeffo

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Legally he's innocent, but people still think he did it.
He probably was a bad bf but doubt he's a rapist, I used to enjoy watching his streams, not anymore tho.
Too bad he wasted his talent by refusing to go back pro, he's enjoying the content and streams revenue

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Dybala21

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True, he doesn't care about competing anymore ig

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jamONE

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He has said multiple times that he enjoys the flexibility of having his own schedule, own control over how much money he makes and just not being tied to countless hours of practice and scrimming. Basically he values WLB over being Pro again.

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dwani

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I'm pretty sure it was the problem that a lot of major orgs didn't sign sinatraa because they didn't want to ruin their reputation. sinatraa's reputation was already ruined whether he is guilty or not.
Here Nadeshot said he could've signed sinatraa to 100T but chose not to because of his situation. Pretty sure a lot of org owners would side with
Nadeshot on this one too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjSshkXR9iQ

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siphonval

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i dont think he even enjoys playing valorant lmao half his streams are just clash, bro moved on from competing in esports

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Krivix

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hes fully able to be signed,would just tatter the org's rep if they did

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1phnxe

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not necessarily
he definitely isn’t interested in going pro rn

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rap1st

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Brazil flag? Oh the irony

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Xabrusca

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Yep, the union should hire sinatraa. they like criminals

so ?

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He’d fit in perfectly on the union

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Krivix

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the pedophile + sexual assualt buff

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justron40

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bcs women is get privilege in the US (even tho they're in the wrong). that's why we need more t@te so ppl wake tf up!

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Master_oGgway

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Bro 💀

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autumnly

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braindead

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h786

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just because woman get privilege doesn't mean we lower our standard

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justron40

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i never say that tho.

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Marhuee

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nah the tate part is shit, but the rest is kinda true

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Barbatos

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NA stonks

panc(sent a message) = true evil, die! 😡👎

sinatra(rapist) = just a misunderstanding, i enjoy his streams 😊👍

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chick

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Um

You don’t really know how many death threats sinatraa got when this shit happened

Mfers even told shahz “you’re playing with a r*****” when all they were doing was queueing val together on stream

He has gone through way worse for all the reasons pancc and ntk should go through

Abuse and Pedophilia isn’t a joke, just like S/A

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Barbatos

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He has gone through way worse

thousands people watching his stream, making him rolling in money.

Yeah, much worse. Sad for him.

🤑💸

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the incident