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SEA viewership split 1 & 2 comparison

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SEA Valorant Challenger Viewership
ID ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
Split 1
Average viewers : 6.691
Peak viewers : 26.950
Split 2
Average viewers : 8.391
Peak viewers : 34.185

TH ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ญ
Split 1
Average viewers :10.920
Peak viewers :27.817
Split 2
Average viewers :12.497
Peak viewers :28.357

MY/SG ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ
Split 1
Average viewers :1.313
Peak viewers :7.789
Split 2
Average viewers :1.346
Peak viewers :8.505

PH ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ
Split 1
Average viewers :1.314
Peak viewers :5.327
Split 2
Average viewers :928
Peak viewers :4.437

HK/TW ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ
Split 1
Average viewers :2.448
Peak viewers :8.619
Split 2
Average viewers :1.629
Peak viewers :7.299

VN ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ
Split 1
Average viewers :1.693
Peak viewers :7.335
Split 2
Average viewers :2.393
Peak viewers :10.868

Source : esportscharts

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FDWC-
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PH still avg more than South Asia VCT KKKKKKKKKKK

#3
danii1
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Indo and Thai are farming hard actually

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TGOPARTHIB
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FDWC- [#2]

PH still avg more than South Asia VCT KKKKKKKKKKK

Where did you get south asia info? It's not even mentioned here

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Prathades
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TGOPARTHIB [#4]

Where did you get south asia info? It's not even mentioned here

SA
Split 1 Peak 15427 avg 2441
Split 2 Peak 9673 avg 1306

#6
LyCan52
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FDWC- [#2]

PH still avg more than South Asia VCT KKKKKKKKKKK

atleast we ain't desperate enough to organize a LAN tournament in a mall ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

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Pogtestic
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LyCan52 [#6]

atleast we ain't desperate enough to organize a LAN tournament in a mall ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

Idk if ur indian or not but if yes, atleast we aint desperate enough to have 2 imports in each and every one of our team ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

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Sprouts
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So ID, TH, MY/SG, and VN are growing while PH and HK/TW are shrinking

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LyCan52
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Pogtestic [#7]

Idk if ur indian or not but if yes, atleast we aint desperate enough to have 2 imports in each and every one of our team ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

damn ๐Ÿ˜ฌ (but what it has to do with viewership)

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FDWC-
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LyCan52 [#9]

damn ๐Ÿ˜ฌ (but what it has to do with viewership)

damn ๐Ÿ˜ฌ (but what it has to do with LAN location)

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LyCan52
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FDWC- [#10]

damn ๐Ÿ˜ฌ (but what it has to do with LAN location)

damn ๐Ÿ˜ฌ (maybe more ppl who are just passing by get to know about this game? isn't it the main purpose of having a LAN in mall?)

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queueK
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Sprouts [#8]

So ID, TH, MY/SG, and VN are growing while PH and HK/TW are shrinking

Split-to-split viewership isn't really an amazing indicator of shrinkage imo. just look at League of Legends - the spring splits usually get more hours watched and average viewers (peak viewers usually depends on the finals matchup).

Year-to-year is usually a better metric

#13
Sirol12
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Does anyone know the viewership in Japan finals was? it looks like if there is no CR japan has much lower viewership

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33AJ
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FDWC- [#2]

PH still avg more than South Asia VCT KKKKKKKKKKK

500 avg in playoffs๐Ÿ’€
Even oce have more

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Jaox-101
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do esportscharts count offline viewers? or it is based on platforms only?

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Slips
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not_smart_user [#15]

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-philippines-stage-2-challengers-2 - 26k 2021
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-philippines-stage-2-challengers-3 - 33k 2021
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-philippines-stage-1-challengers - 26k 2022
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-challengers-2023-philippines-split-1 - 5k 2023

what the fuck

You forget that PH stream used to air on valorant esport main channel that why they get many views cuz Its not only pinoy who watch it same as SG/MY but now every country get their own channel that when the views drop

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derptz
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not_smart_user [#15]

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-philippines-stage-2-challengers-2 - 26k 2021
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-philippines-stage-2-challengers-3 - 33k 2021
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-philippines-stage-1-challengers - 26k 2022
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-challengers-2023-philippines-split-1 - 5k 2023

what the fuck

PPGL is greedy for views on their main channel. If they had done what Indonesia and Thailand did to create a valorant esports channel from the very beginning, maybe it wouldn't have come to this. Check out PPGL's channel now. Getting abandoned KEKW.

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not_smart_user [#15]

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-philippines-stage-2-challengers-2 - 26k 2021
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-philippines-stage-2-challengers-3 - 33k 2021
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-philippines-stage-1-challengers - 26k 2022
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-challengers-2023-philippines-split-1 - 5k 2023

what the fuck

Tbh I try to watch all live challengers here in APAC as much as I can but the only thing that set me off from watching the PH one was the production. I don't know if watching live is different but like compared to other regional streams, it really felt like low quality and uninspired compared to other streams. It almost felt like they didn't have a proper venue/production and budget to prioritize viewer experience. Just my two cents.

#21
Botkiller69
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33AJ [#14]

500 avg in playoffs๐Ÿ’€
Even oce have more

Big india country 500 view emm so bad

#22
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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Prathades [#5]

SA
Split 1 Peak 15427 avg 2441
Split 2 Peak 9673 avg 1306

Showmatch Peak 50k๐Ÿ—ฟ

#23
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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Botkiller69 [#21]

Big india country 500 view emm so bad

not Big in Valorant enjoyers

#24
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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FDWC- [#2]

PH still avg more than South Asia VCT KKKKKKKKKKK

Mall Lan KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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Barudakssss
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LyCan52 [#6]

atleast we ain't desperate enough to organize a LAN tournament in a mall ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

at least LAN indo not using plastic chair and delay 5hours

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Lelouch_Chaudhary
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Barudakssss [#25]

at least LAN indo not using plastic chair and delay 5hours

they didn't even had chairs, standing or sitting at floor
anyway mall KEKW

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LyCan52
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Barudakssss [#25]

at least LAN indo not using plastic chair and delay 5hours

atleast we have chairs ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

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hanafuuji
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LyCan52 [#11]

damn ๐Ÿ˜ฌ (maybe more ppl who are just passing by get to know about this game? isn't it the main purpose of having a LAN in mall?)

so it's a good thing then? lmao

#29
Scar98
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PH so disappointing, I thought it was a bigger community
Great surprise HK/TW and Vietnam

#30
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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hanafuuji [#28]

so it's a good thing then? lmao

you were banned for 2 weeks?

#31
LyCan52
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hanafuuji [#28]

so it's a good thing then? lmao

more like desperate thing

#32
Scar98
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Prathades [#5]

SA
Split 1 Peak 15427 avg 2441
Split 2 Peak 9673 avg 1306

100k prizepool ๐Ÿ’€

#33
hanafuuji
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LyCan52 [#31]

more like desperate thing

wdym desperate? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
is there something wrong with helding the event in a shopping mall?

#34
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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hanafuuji [#33]

wdym desperate? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
is there something wrong with helding the event in a shopping mall?

less budget๐Ÿฃ

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LyCan52
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hanafuuji [#33]

wdym desperate? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
is there something wrong with helding the event in a shopping mall?

everything ๐Ÿ—ฟ

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hanafuuji
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Lelouch_Chaudhary [#34]

less budget๐Ÿฃ

blud your country had 100K budget but ain't nobody watching it ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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6vine
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hanafuuji [#33]

wdym desperate? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
is there something wrong with helding the event in a shopping mall?

No way you're being real lmao

#38
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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hanafuuji [#36]

blud your country had 100K budget but ain't nobody watching it ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Im watching it and that's enough๐Ÿ—ฟ

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luckypleb
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LyCan52 [#27]

atleast we have chairs ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

blud actually thinks the india "LAN" was better than VCL ID playoffs๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

#40
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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luckypleb [#39]

blud actually thinks the india "LAN" was better than VCL ID playoffs๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

Every Indian Lan was and will be better than Shopping Mall Country Lan

#41
hanafuuji
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6vine [#37]

No way you're being real lmao

I mean the mall has been previously used for many famous LAN Esports events in indo, I think it fits as Valorant became bigger and bigger in indonesia

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User011098
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Scar98 [#29]

PH so disappointing, I thought it was a bigger community
Great surprise HK/TW and Vietnam

valorant in ph peak in 2021 when ts goes in international league

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LyCan52
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luckypleb [#39]

blud actually thinks the india "LAN" was better than VCL ID playoffs๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

bcoz it was better ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

#44
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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hanafuuji [#41]

I mean the mall has been previously used for many famous LAN Esports events in indo, I think it fits as Valorant became bigger and bigger in indonesia

you mean Islands of...๐Ÿ—ฟ

#45
luckypleb
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Lelouch_Chaudhary [#40]

Every Indian Lan was and will be better than Shopping Mall Country Lan

with plastic chairs and 2 days delay? even the players said they don't care abt the tournament anymore and just want to go home asap? lol

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TH growing is a nice sign, since they had to compete with PUBG PC (and yes, you are hearing this correctly. PUBG PC. Not dota, not lol, not cs not even FIFA that strived most viewership here as a non mobile game but PUBG PC)

#47
6vine
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hanafuuji [#41]

I mean the mall has been previously used for many famous LAN Esports events in indo, I think it fits as Valorant became bigger and bigger in indonesia

Fair I guess but they had tons of sponsors. Surely, they could've held it in an arena. Maybe just playoffs?

#48
hanafuuji
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User011098 [#42]

valorant in ph peak in 2021 when ts goes in international league

I still remember when Secret took a map off of gambit, good times

#49
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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luckypleb [#45]

with plastic chairs and 2 days delay? even the players said they don't care abt the tournament anymore and just want to go home asap? lol

Dubai organiser, bigger prize pool than entire of Indo Lans till now...and not in shopping mall kekw

#50
luckypleb
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Lelouch_Chaudhary [#49]

Dubai organiser, bigger prize pool than entire of Indo Lans till now...and not in shopping mall kekw

sure blud i love my esports matches when the players don't want to play and just want to go home

#51
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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luckypleb [#50]

sure blud i love my esports matches when the players don't want to play and just want to go home

but all of them were playing, you know the reason๐Ÿ’€

#52
Barudakssss
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judulnya SEA tapi si prindapan pada nimbrung asu

#53
LyCan52
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luckypleb [#50]

sure blud i love my esports matches when the players don't want to play and just want to go home

noxxy bad mood ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

#54
luckypleb
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LyCan52 [#53]

noxxy bad mood ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

??? im talking about gxr

#55
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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luckypleb [#54]

??? im talking about gxr

100k$

#56
Slips
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hesketh2 [#46]

TH growing is a nice sign, since they had to compete with PUBG PC (and yes, you are hearing this correctly. PUBG PC. Not dota, not lol, not cs not even FIFA that strived most viewership here as a non mobile game but PUBG PC)

Are you happy that PUBG PC still thriving in thailand? Or you prefer more relevant PC games like Dota, lol, cs get that number 1 spot in thailand?

#57
luckypleb
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Lelouch_Chaudhary [#55]

100k$

doesnt change that it sucked

#58
LyCan52
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luckypleb [#57]

doesnt change that it sucked

still better than mall lan ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

#59
CYAN18
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luckypleb [#57]

doesnt change that it sucked

1,486,405,000.00idr

#60
Lelouch_Chaudhary
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luckypleb [#57]

doesnt change that it sucked

still more viewership than Mall Lan

#61
33AJ
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Lelouch_Chaudhary [#23]

not Big in Valorant enjoyers

not Big in Valorant enjoyers

?
We had 55k peak in past
More like people are tired of watching our teams getting destroyed by sea

#62
chunchun
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I THINK PH HAS LOWER VIEWERSHIP BECAUSE OF THE FAMOUS STREAMER/PLAYER FROM 2021 HAS MOVED TO FRANCHISED AND NA (GIANSANITY AND TEAM) AND KDM HAS STEPPED DOWN FROM PRO.

#63
RebelHeartXO
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MaTrix96 [#20]

Tbh I try to watch all live challengers here in APAC as much as I can but the only thing that set me off from watching the PH one was the production. I don't know if watching live is different but like compared to other regional streams, it really felt like low quality and uninspired compared to other streams. It almost felt like they didn't have a proper venue/production and budget to prioritize viewer experience. Just my two cents.

The main issue as "leaked" by a former caster that the allocation by the production behind VCT PH is fewer compared to the Mobile Legends league. Thus if the Mobile League's production is awarded to that prod. Expect a slightly lower quality to Riots production.

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RebelHeartXO
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RebelHeartXO [#63]

The main issue as "leaked" by a former caster that the allocation by the production behind VCT PH is fewer compared to the Mobile Legends league. Thus if the Mobile League's production is awarded to that prod. Expect a slightly lower quality to Riots production.

Not to mention, Team Secret, PH super team and many other players went to other countries. thus the interest kinda lower

#65
TMosura
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6vine [#47]

Fair I guess but they had tons of sponsors. Surely, they could've held it in an arena. Maybe just playoffs?

Community LANs made it much better. The venue in particular have hosted major ID LANs in the past prior to Valorant. If you ever heard Indonesians calling the venue BOOM's home, because BOOM has several champions crowned in multiple events hosted in the past. The venue has history, tied into Indonesian esports.

Obviously, we want a bigger venue, but considering this was a gauge to see what was the interest for an ID LAN was? People were crowding the venue, sitting down, standing up; and we all loved the experience (being someone who attended IRL as well.)

We love the game, and for sure, we are gonna get damn rowdy about it. I hope next LAN it'll be on a more proper/accomodating venue- but I have a feeling it won't be a loss if it's in the mall again.

#67
kenzi
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idk why the viewership drop me personally im a offline/highlight watcher but yeah i think valo is not as popular as league or dota here in ph

#68
MaTrix96
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RebelHeartXO [#64]

Not to mention, Team Secret, PH super team and many other players went to other countries. thus the interest kinda lower

I see. Besides that, casters can only control so little. The director and organizers have to do their market research and analysis as well as to how they can continue to foster the community and related aspects of the scene in the country. Riot also gave the regions a specific budget for these type of things. Look at India for example, a lot of mobile games as well but I think they are really doing a good job stepping up their lans and the quality of their production as well. Other than that, I'm sure the PH scene can recover hopefully. Btw, I remember being disappointed because I think the PH stream was broken when it was the upper bracket finals - day 1, the one with NAOS vs Oas. Then when they went live the next day, I didn't really feel like watching anymore because the other VCTs like ID hooked me up with their consistency (even though I couldn't understand anything from the casters because I don't know their language lmao).

#69
chunchun
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rosso4000 [#66]

TS took all the views

TS aint even the most popular team in ph back in 21/22

#70
chunchun
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Scar98 [#29]

PH so disappointing, I thought it was a bigger community
Great surprise HK/TW and Vietnam

the community is way bigger but theres no hype in pro scene. but the playerbase is big tho

#71
hesketh2
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Slips [#56]

Are you happy that PUBG PC still thriving in thailand? Or you prefer more relevant PC games like Dota, lol, cs get that number 1 spot in thailand?

All those is impossible to grow anymore

  • Dota has no good player left here, being valve game meant no local investment. Players are gatekeeping each other
  • LoL is all but dead thanks to Garena
  • Same applies to every Blizzard games
  • CS has long been dead in SEA since no SEA teams can win over TYLOO/MVP to major
  • RL, Siege, any RTS games is not interested in SEA because of how unwelcoming to newbies are
  • FIFA has once did higher numbers than PUBG, but Garena fumbled their game as well
  • EA doesnt formed a Thai office for APEX

TL;DR: Outside of VALORANT its the only non Mobile game to suceed, every game else has failed

#72
Drie
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Is it also count the watch party? One from rrq watch party is pretty high

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