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randomperson

bruh what happened during the break
why is the skill gap between the top 4 and the bottom 4 so huge

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cuz top 4 is better

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No Aim (NA)

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BairyHalls

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ur from NA no?

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geometrix

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Yes but it's important to acknowledge that we have 2-3 teams that are actually good in the NA VCL scene and the rest are just hopeless

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randomperson

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we got 4
oxg, tgrd, m80, mxm
the rest are absolute dogshit
and we gotta see is tsm has improved

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BairyHalls

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was really hoping more from G2 after how they performed in split 1
this split they were dog shit worse than SEN/100T/Kru/KC/DFM

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Bonkbonk201

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who are the 3 good teams

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koromast

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guard m80 mxm, and imo there are 4 cuz oxg looks good also

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Bonkbonk201

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i just noticed people are downvoting me for legit asking a question when u replied to me, that gave me a chuckle thanks man
and i agree, guard and m80 for sure look the best but mxm is the dark horse here

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brobeans

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stopped practicing? or trying?

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Faze always been trash bro

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randomperson

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not just faze
sr and g2 also got clapped

they cant even get a map worth of rounds

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TrialRunnr

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G2 went 0-5 no way you were surprised seeing them get smoked, SR lost to one of the best teams in the league who people consider good enough to be franchised

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randomperson

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yeah but they had 2 weeks to create new strats and prac so surely they improve a bit
also thats the point of my post. why is the skill gap so huge

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TrialRunnr

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cus the point system is stupid, The teams in relegation are better than G2 atm but got cucked cus of the point system.
G2 and Faze imo opinion are the bottom 2 teams atm.
MxM, M80, Guard, Oxg are pretty good and I feel like SR and TSM can give top 4 team a good game but there is also a chance they get smoked which happened to SR

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aylez

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it’s because of their respective igls, all washed

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zidmz

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the real strat cookers cooked while the frauds (shamid) got exposed

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The Guard and M80 already basically locked in playoffs in Split 1 so they could coast in Split 2 without showing too much.
Not really sure what G2 is doing, but Oxygen has been improving throughout the whole season.

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The guard is just too good for everyone else they will farm franchise teams next year

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W

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Realistically, Guard is at least a .500 team in franchising if not better. Their preparation and chemistry easily makes them outshine many T1 teams.

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EverSince333

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Can't say that without them actually facing any franchised teams. Literally 100T struggled to make it into top 6 with that roster

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randomperson

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tgrd beat sen and t1 lud tarik invitational

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aceofrainbows

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eh, I think beating t1 didn't mean much at that point, carpe had barely played valorant and now he's showing a lot more promise

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Mid

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Danny

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Format meant all the top teams could stop caring and still qualify

They probably were all saving strats

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I honestly think teams just don't care if there's one spot and in scrims u get destroyed by the guard , m80, oxg or moist Mogul. You feel demotivated. It's like u play knowing u can't ever be the one team that qualify for tier 1 franchise.