- Fnatic
- DRX
- Loud
- Furia
- NRG
- Leviatan
- Fut
- Navi
- GenG
- Paper Rex
- Secret
- 100T
- Vitality
- Sentinels
- Liquid
- T1
- Giants
- C9
- Koi
- Zeta
- Global
- mibr
- Kru
- BBL
- EG
- Heretics
- RRQ
- Talon
- Karmine Corp
- DFM
Regions averages: mean, median
Amer: 13.2, 13
EMEA: 15.9, 16
APAC: 17.4, 18
Sub regions: (only the mean if only 2 teams in the region
NA(5): 14.8, 14
BR(3): 9.7, 4
LATAM(2): 14.5
KR(3): 9, 9
JP(2): 25
TR(2): 15.5
EU(8): 16, 16
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Derpp [#2]Navi too low, fut too high and drx and loud needs to switch places as well as rrq and talon
No fucking way
The first person to read allat
Derpp [#2]Navi too low, fut too high and drx and loud needs to switch places as well as rrq and talon
They kinda proved themselves or nah?
They're doing good enough to be top 12 tho i agree it's a bit too high at least for now
I_HATE_MCE [#11]Talon is not that bad stop
I am not putting a team that is trotting triple duelist comps outside of the bottom 3
Mathias8008 [#10]Navi better than lev and lev better than nrg
Navi lost to checks notes the 7th best team in EMEA
teilwal [#8]Liquid above Giants? i feel like giants lowkey underrated
yeah but they haven't proved they can win a series vs anyone except Koi, who is bottom 4 EMEA
Derpp [#2]Navi too low, fut too high and drx and loud needs to switch places as well as rrq and talon
Navi lost to checks notes the #7 team in EMEA. Lev have gotten better, Navi gotten worse, and last time they played map 1 leaned lev and map 3 was even. Fut are clear cut up there with Navi, and Loud have slightly regressed since Lock//in. Talon used a triple duelist comp, RRQ have a win and are not that braindead
Flyingcat [#19]Drx over loud? What are you smoking?
Loud have gotten worse bruh, they almost lost to mibr. Not worse enough I'd drop them below anyone other than FNC and DRX who are both proven
Psion [#15]yeah but they haven't proved they can win a series vs anyone except Koi, who is bottom 4 EMEA
Bro they played Navi and fnatic what did U expect?????
Psion [#18]Navi lost to checks notes the #7 team in EMEA. Lev have gotten better, Navi gotten worse, and last time they played map 1 leaned lev and map 3 was even. Fut are clear cut up there with Navi, and Loud have slightly regressed since Lock//in. Talon used a triple duelist comp, RRQ have a win and are not that braindead
Talon still clears rrq. As a drx fan I would inhale copium and say drx is better than loud but hell naw. Also LEV smacked NRG so they need to be rearranged as well, meanwhile FUT look crazy but they ain't 2nd in EMEA cmon man
Psion [#15]yeah but they haven't proved they can win a series vs anyone except Koi, who is bottom 4 EMEA
their wins were akshually FUT and KC 🤓👆
Psion [#20]Loud have gotten worse bruh, they almost lost to mibr. Not worse enough I'd drop them below anyone other than FNC and DRX who are both proven
yk that drx lost to loud on lock-in right?
Psion [#14]Navi lost to checks notes the 7th best team in EMEA
NaVi rolled Leviatan in Lock In it wasn't even close
Psion [#20]Loud have gotten worse bruh, they almost lost to mibr. Not worse enough I'd drop them below anyone other than FNC and DRX who are both proven
so a worsen loud will go 5-0 against NA? worrisome!
firefirefirefire [#41]How many times Loud needs to beat DRX to these lists stop being made?
These Burger eaters are all braindeads
Psion [#20]Loud have gotten worse bruh, they almost lost to mibr. Not worse enough I'd drop them below anyone other than FNC and DRX who are both proven
How many times LOUD needs to beat DRX for you to start seeing? are you fucking blind? or you just dont know nothing about Valorant?
Derpp [#24]Talon still clears rrq. As a drx fan I would inhale copium and say drx is better than loud but hell naw. Also LEV smacked NRG so they need to be rearranged as well, meanwhile FUT look crazy but they ain't 2nd in EMEA cmon man
Talon does not clear RRQ with all the dumb shit they're doing, Loud has looked SHAKY, their instability compared to DRX's stability is why I have DRX higher. Sure, Lev smacked Nrg week 1, but Lev played only 2 good halves of valorant out of 6 vs Furia, while NRG played 3.5-4 dominate halves vs sentinels. I trust fut more than any other team in EMEA outside of FNC (and Karmine Corp sucking)
patuj [#37]NaVi rolled Leviatan in Lock In it wasn't even close
what the fuck does lock in have to do with now? talon was top 8 at lock in and are a bottom 5 team now
3cmtotal [#30]yk that drx lost to loud on lock-in right?
yk that was like at lock-in and not now, right??? DRX have been extremely stable while Loud looked shaky vs Mibr and only won 2-1 vs a C9 team that is worse than teams that DRX are 2-0ing
Numbx [#43]How many times LOUD needs to beat DRX for you to start seeing? are you fucking blind? or you just dont know nothing about Valorant?
the real question is are YOU blind?? did you watch Loud ALMOST LOSE TO MIBR, or how DRX hasn't dropped a map yet?
Psion [#50]what the fuck does lock in have to do with now? talon was top 8 at lock in and are a bottom 5 team now
Talon were top 8 beating who? Oh yeah MIBR and EG. While NaVi defeated Leviatan on their best map and 13-2d them on Fracture. There is like nothing to point out that LEV should be rated higher than NaVi.
Flyingcat [#33]Drx almost lost to GE
by some defintions yeah, but GE had to win in 2, if it goes to map 3 after those long games DRX smoke them.
patuj [#53]Talon were top 8 beating who? Oh yeah MIBR and EG. While NaVi defeated Leviatan on their best map and 13-2d them on Fracture. There is like nothing to point out that LEV should be rated higher than NaVi.
and Nrg beat koi at Lock//in, who beat Navi in week 1, and guess who beat NRG, LEVIATAN.
Subreezy [#29]idk bro, at least DFM doesn't forget to buy
KC and DFM are probably tied for last
nah, KC got a win (somehow) and based on how RRQ comfortably beat DFM its clear DFM are the worst
Just_Be [#26]I dont get it why people say 100t is good team, bro they are terrible 💀 they deserve to be below 20
the literal lowest anyone can reasonably put them is 17, c9 and every team worse than them is a clear level below 100t
Psion [#55]and Nrg beat koi at Lock//in, who beat Navi in week 1, and guess who beat NRG, LEVIATAN.
Regular season games don't mean shit. NaVi without experiemental comps wouldn't have much trouble beating KOI who btw were genuinely playing well in that match. I would take NaVi over LEV or NRG anyday until proven otherwise.
Warlordwibz [#35]
then PRX manhandled T1, clearly showing that PRX had made improvements since their close series vs secret with all 3 maps being within 1 round of 24, while Secret lost to GenG.
WinterZ [#36]FUT too high, TLN too low
otherwise reasonable
I've been an X10/Xerxia/Talon fan, they have the firepower to be up there, but they cannot physically be any higher when they are running triple duelist and moving pattiphan around like a donkey.
I can see fut being lower but I think Fut is the clear #2 in EMEA
Pengu12 [#39]Sen may have lost to NRG but they still beat 100t + 100t didn’t look much better then SEN vs EG
I've talked about this before, the game vs 100T is the best Sen will look. They looked worse vs Nrg, and will continue to look worse(dropping to 1-3 or 1-4)
firefirefirefire [#41]How many times Loud needs to beat DRX to these lists stop being made?
Loud almost lost to Mibr(they looked very shaky), DRX haven't dropped a map.
kbkdark [#48]MIBR behind Giants, C9, Koi, Zeta and Global is stupid
i could see moving them up to 18 but they aren't better than giants
Psion [#63]Loud almost lost to Mibr(they looked very shaky), DRX haven't dropped a map.
DRX is 0-2 against LOUD rn. They have never beaten them and so long as they haven't, I will never consider them better--especially given that they've placed 2nd in two international lans and 1st at champions
Psion [#63]Loud almost lost to Mibr(they looked very shaky), DRX haven't dropped a map.
Mibr would beat Zeta, Ge, even talon with their current line up. Its always like that, DRX stomping these tier2 asian teams until they are against a real good team, then they lose and people think they 'choke'
Nachtel [#67]DRX is 0-2 against LOUD rn. They have never beaten them and so long as they haven't, I will never consider them better--especially given that they've placed 2nd in two international lans and 1st at champions
yeah sure, give me loud at an international event. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT OF A POWER RANKING. if Loud and DRX played right now in a regular season game, DRX is winning
firefirefirefire [#70]Mibr would beat Zeta, Ge, even talon with their current line up. Its always like that, DRX stomping these tier2 asian teams until they are against a real good team, then they lose and people think they 'choke'
"even talon" MF talon are a BOTTOM 5 team
firefirefirefire [#70]Mibr would beat Zeta, Ge, even talon with their current line up. Its always like that, DRX stomping these tier2 asian teams until they are against a real good team, then they lose and people think they 'choke'
https://www.vlr.gg/167355/mibr-vs-talon-esports-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-ro16
Psion [#18]Navi lost to checks notes the #7 team in EMEA. Lev have gotten better, Navi gotten worse, and last time they played map 1 leaned lev and map 3 was even. Fut are clear cut up there with Navi, and Loud have slightly regressed since Lock//in. Talon used a triple duelist comp, RRQ have a win and are not that braindead
There was no map3. It was 13-10, 13-3...
Psion [#72]yeah sure, give me loud at an international event. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT OF A POWER RANKING. if Loud and DRX played right now in a regular season game, DRX is winning
Loud looked shaky the entirety of Lock-in, but they made it through regardless. I'm assuming they're just a team that relies a lot on counter-stratting, so they'll always be on par with, or slightly better than their opponents, similar to NRG.
If they were to play right now, LOUD would win.
Psion [#55]and Nrg beat koi at Lock//in, who beat Navi in week 1, and guess who beat NRG, LEVIATAN.
both navi and NRG have been trolling regionals since FPX/Optic days.Im still putting Navi over NRG and NRG over lev even after their loss
patuj [#58]Regular season games don't mean shit. NaVi without experiemental comps wouldn't have much trouble beating KOI who btw were genuinely playing well in that match. I would take NaVi over LEV or NRG anyday until proven otherwise.
regular season games are literally what the power rankings are based off of dumbass
alitmanus [#82]22 > 5
kekw
"LouD Got WoRsen DroppEd Map TO MibR"at least they won the series
hindsight making you high af
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