Yes i know it's early, yes i know he's the IGL but... At this point of Valorant i think firepower is the most important thing. You can't afford a weak point in your team anymore, hell even FNS stepped it up massively when it came to individual performance. Sacy or Marved should step up as the shot callers or make one of them the IGL. 5 players who are all mechanically world class and 4 of them have world class game sense. Also no hate towards got nothing against Dephh i just think SEN are better off with those 5 players starting
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not happening in mid season, could have happened 1 month ago....
sykko is basically training dephh to be a good IGL, not sure why they picked him if they still need to train him to be a IGL.. ayrin would be 100% better than dephh right now, and dephh did 50% igl during his peak era.
somehow they choose a ''half'' IGL + worse aim igl ever, dephh doesn't excel in ANYTHING, bad aim, bad igl.
way better to pick a IGL how can excel at something or at least mid at aim + mid at igl. because now dephh is downgrade at all roles.
ayrin way better and could play sentinel properly.
yaiima0 [#6]I doubt sen coach would let that happen since he’s buddy buddy with dephhh. I do think he could potentially get it together, but I don’t see his IGLing to be anywhere near world class.
Yep that's exactly what i mean, i don't ever see him being FNS, Saadhak, Boaster level. I don't think this is reactionary or based on one loss for me, it's just based on the fact that competition is too stiff nowadays. Everybodys gotta be world class if you want to win the NAVI's, DRX's, LOUD's and FNC's
Yessirskiiii [#8]Yep that's exactly what i mean, i don't ever see him being FNS, Saadhak, Boaster level. I don't think this is reactionary or based on one loss for me, it's just based on the fact that competition is too stiff nowadays. Everybodys gotta be world class if you want to win the NAVI's, DRX's, LOUD's and FNC's
Agreed, plus he’s like half an igl technically since he did split the role with ayrin on XSET, so he lacks full igl cohesion.
trembolonaRage [#2]they will in the next months at some point
but pancada said in a interview days ago that dephh was literally baby sitting every single one of them and could not focus on his own gameplay
Yes and i understand that but still when the teams you have to beat have nowadays mechanically very adept IGL's who are not only better mechanically but actually better IGLs too, that makes it very very hard to beat the best teams in the world no?
Yessirskiiii [#8]Yep that's exactly what i mean, i don't ever see him being FNS, Saadhak, Boaster level. I don't think this is reactionary or based on one loss for me, it's just based on the fact that competition is too stiff nowadays. Everybodys gotta be world class if you want to win the NAVI's, DRX's, LOUD's and FNC's
exactly, all other IGL are IQ gods.
See saaadhak (Furia comp vs Fnatic was made by him and furia copied)
Boaster half shield strategy, etc.
FNS mid round calls
all IGL who don't excel at AIM are really good at strategies, but dephh doesn't excel in anything... not IGL god.
Not AIM god (like King or others)
and sykko still training him to be a good igl, its just waste of resources and time, since they could train any other IGL with high firepower than him.
so it's basically sykko who don't want to drop him. they're basically killing a team by a friendship.
DIEM [#13]Bro doesn’t understand sarcasm 😱
if you were trying to make a sarcastic joke then you’re just unfunny
As BR, i watched Pancada podcast on MD3 a channel BR. He said ppl were to hard on deeph on Ludwig x Tarik, bc he was (on pancada words) teaching everyone how he wants to play. Remember they played split without pracc on that map.
But about lock in pancada said they are a strong team who still are figure out how to play as a team. He said they are a strong team and was just bad lucky to face Fnatic on 1st round.
inlucid [#17]maybe after Champions, i dont think Sacy would agree to do this change right now
remember that gtn stayed with Vikings the whole year of 2021, even with way better duelists available in BR
Sen coach would also not want to do that as well.
UyoZ [#18]As BR, i watched Pancada podcast on MD3 a channel BR. He said ppl were to hard on deeph on Ludwig x Tarik, bc he was (on pancada words) teaching everyone how he wants to play. Remember they played split without pracc on that map.
But about lock in pancada said they are a strong team who still are figure out how to play as a team. He said they are a strong team and was just bad lucky to face Fnatic on 1st round.
Ty for this info my friend
trembolonaRage [#2]they will in the next months at some point
but pancada said in a interview days ago that dephh was literally baby sitting every single one of them and could not focus on his own gameplay
Where can i find the interview?
Valgod [#24]If firepower was the most important thing TL would've won every tournament for the past 2 years and igls like fns, boaster, ange1 would be trash
Soulcas and firepower do not enter together in the same sentence
Valgod [#24]If firepower was the most important thing TL would've won every tournament for the past 2 years and igls like fns, boaster, ange1 would be trash
But FNS, Boaster, and Ange1 have thrown down and shown out recently in a way we have really never seen from dephh in a fire power or calling sense
sylv1o [#22]Firepower is everything nowadays. Even fns and boaster were stepping up (and they're both better igls than dephh), so...
^ boaster had some highlights in those finals esp on that one map where he top frag on omen. Fns, saadhak, idk if the dead weight IGL is a thing anymore
gabriesga [#26]Soulcas and firepower do not enter together in the same sentence
This just shows you don't really know what you're talking about
trembolonaRage [#2]they will in the next months at some point
but pancada said in a interview days ago that dephh was literally baby sitting every single one of them and could not focus on his own gameplay
Wait how the f did u go from 8 frags go 53 in like 4 mins... wtf is going on
SAMPV6 [#35]His IGLing is mid and he doesn't have enough mechanics to make up for it, so yeah I agree somewhat.
What I don't agree with is saying that VAL right now is mostly firepower driven, these final teams in Lock/in had insane reads and executes
Then name a elite team that doesn't have elite firepower. I'm willing to change my mind on that opinion. All of the top 4 teams itw = elite firepower. I'm not saying Val is JUST firepower, just saying it's necessary in this moment
Yessirskiiii [#36]Then name a elite team that doesn't have elite firepower. I'm willing to change my mind on that opinion. All of the top 4 teams itw = elite firepower. I'm not saying Val is JUST firepower, just saying it's necessary in this moment
At the tippity top yeah you need elite firepower, but it's not needed in all 5 guys -- just look at Fnatic with boaster, he's not that good of a fragger but his reads are great enough to make up for it, unlike Dephh
Yessirskiiii [#34]Wait how the f did u go from 8 frags go 53 in like 4 mins... wtf is going on
bro is botting vlr upvotes 💀
Valgod [#24]If firepower was the most important thing TL would've won every tournament for the past 2 years and igls like fns, boaster, ange1 would be trash
No. TL were fire power gods, but still had 2 very inconsistent players. There's no firepower if half your squad doesn't show up.
SAMPV6 [#37]At the tippity top yeah you need elite firepower, but it's not needed in all 5 guys -- just look at Fnatic with boaster, he's not that good of a fragger but his reads are great enough to make up for it, unlike Dephh
Your point is mostly right, but you picked a terrible example considering fnatic won a tourney with boaster displaying some of his most impressive fragging to date
UyoZ [#18]As BR, i watched Pancada podcast on MD3 a channel BR. He said ppl were to hard on deeph on Ludwig x Tarik, bc he was (on pancada words) teaching everyone how he wants to play. Remember they played split without pracc on that map.
But about lock in pancada said they are a strong team who still are figure out how to play as a team. He said they are a strong team and was just bad lucky to face Fnatic on 1st round.
He also said:
1- TSM is trolling scrims
2- EG better than people think
3- 100T went further in the championship than expected because they had an easier bracket
Valgod [#24]If firepower was the most important thing TL would've won every tournament for the past 2 years and igls like fns, boaster, ange1 would be trash
well soulcas frags like an IGL 6/10 games so theres your answer
WinterZ [#45]well soulcas frags like an IGL 6/10 games so theres your answer
That's because he plays sage 6/10 times
Yessirskiiii [#34]Wait how the f did u go from 8 frags go 53 in like 4 mins... wtf is going on
dude, this seems to be a common occurence nowadays. There were like 50 downvotes in an hour on one bait about bringing in ethos for ardiis lmao.
Meursault [#44]He also said:
1- TSM is trolling scrims
2- EG better than people think
3- 100T went further in the championship than expected because they had an easier bracket
no shot he said that
Yessirskiiii [#34]Wait how the f did u go from 8 frags go 53 in like 4 mins... wtf is going on
Seriously there's a botting problem. I've recently seen some comment get downvoted -30 in 5 minutes
RockawayKidz [#57]no shot he said that
I like 100t but they do not seem to have their house in order right now
trembolonaRage [#2]they will in the next months at some point
but pancada said in a interview days ago that dephh was literally baby sitting every single one of them and could not focus on his own gameplay
trembolona with upfrags????????
yaiima0 [#6]I doubt sen coach would let that happen since he’s buddy buddy with dephhh. I do think he could potentially get it together, but I don’t see his IGLing to be anywhere near world class.
Yea I feel like he's gotten enough experience already yet he's still able to make such basic mistakes. His midrounding is his forte, everything else is just middling.
I don't think he can do it but all I can hope for now is that he has some massive improvement in individual performance like angel or improves massively composure while calling and stops micromanaging like boaster.
Ailed [#9]It’s inevitable dephh gets dropped (maybe not tho bc shaz stayed for 3 decades) hoping steel or Valyn gets a shot
Steel would not be very much of an upgrade if at all
Mehika [#4]not happening in mid season, could have happened 1 month ago....
sykko is basically training dephh to be a good IGL, not sure why they picked him if they still need to train him to be a IGL.. ayrin would be 100% better than dephh right now, and dephh did 50% igl during his peak era.
somehow they choose a ''half'' IGL + worse aim igl ever, dephh doesn't excel in ANYTHING, bad aim, bad igl.
way better to pick a IGL how can excel at something or at least mid at aim + mid at igl. because now dephh is downgrade at all roles.
ayrin way better and could play sentinel properly.
I SAID THIS SHIT.
NO ONE BELIEVED ME.
sylv1o [#22]Firepower is everything nowadays. Even fns and boaster were stepping up (and they're both better igls than dephh), so...
no other IGL bought OP on overtime as Astra and got 4
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