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#1
mattgg2015

with heretics seemingly imploding, it seems that G2's superteam is going to happen

how good do u think this roster will be?

  • mixwell
  • nukkye
  • avova
  • pyth
  • koldamenta

i think they will be top 1 EU and be instant contenders for masters 3

#2
Glycoroldas
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I'm gonna be a negative nancy and already call that this roster for unexpected reasons is not going to meet "superteam" expectations

#3
pampire
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at least top 8 imo

#5
sp0rtsman
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g2 is already top 8 lol

#4
PicKaRuu
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Not that good imo (to be top 1)

#6
Tira
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Don't forget EU still have many good team that haven't qualify yet like FPX, Acend, BDS, NIP, Guild, Vitality
Maybe Top 3 or Top 5 but Top 1... still doable but i doubt it

#11
Obeeey
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Not even top 10

#7
w1nT3r
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I would keep Pat instead of Avova. And a new IGL, Kolda isn't as 'good' as the rest of the team.

#8
hekzy
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I'm skeptical about pyth. He's pretty underwhelming lately.

#16
NOSKoala
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Lately? I'm sure you haven't watched the last G2 games, he was the best by far.

#21
hekzy
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he topfragged once in the last 10 games and that was when they got stomped by fnatic. He is a consistent fragger and doesn't whiff too much, but he is too passive and doesn't bring much to the team.

#31
DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN
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I mean a sentinel is a passive role, you don't go out taking opening fights as cypher

#32
hekzy
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Tell that to pAura, aimDLL, dimasick, chiwawa, magnum, MOJJ. It's part of the european game, sentinels utility don't have much use in attack. Moreover the new meta is taking a bombsite and playing afterplant so map control has been less useful than ever.

#37
Sims4proplayer
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Offended u didnt include my boy nATs. Dude is best Cypher eu period

#38
hekzy
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yeah nAts too <3

#40
kyLeria_
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Ayaz >= all atleast ..

#43
kapteN
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Lmao if you think ayaz is anywhere close to nats

nAts singlehandedly secured the win against FPX

#44
kyLeria_
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very funny, shit on my pant

#45
kapteN
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?

#34
Vonik
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I was unsure of him about 2-3 months ago when g2 was still pretty good, but lately he has played really good. I think that shows hes a good "anchor".

#39
hekzy
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i do agree he has improved, but he was never impressive

#9
Heavon
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-> pyth
-> superteam

#10
hekzy
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Lowel
Paura
Bonecold
cNed
Ardiis

That's the real superteam.

#13
Obeeey
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Paura if I'm not wrong will comeback to Turkey

#14
kyLeria_
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sure? how do you know? we all thought cned and him will meet in heretics, rubino benched aswel hm?

#30
Helix_Exton
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I want to argue that you should pick nukkye as the primary duelist or maybe patitek for smokes
over bonecold or duelist over Lowel, but that’s just wrong. Perhaps you could transition nukkye or patitek to Sova and get a better aimer than ardiis on Sova (not that he isn’t good, he just isn’t the best rifler in Europe, or even top 20 probably) but this almost certainly would lead to a drop off in performance in terms of utility, as ardiis is still one of the best at Sova utility in Europe, if not the world. Now if niesow wasn’t taking time off.... I would definitely pick him and take the cut in utility for a top 10 player in EU.

#33
hekzy
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Niesow will never come back.

If you wanted to replace ardiis in that lineup just get any CIS sova, they seem to have tons of elite ones kek

#41
tenzen
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lol maybe more like top 11 :D

#12
Glycoroldas
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Anyway, if twitter likes are anything to go by, I find Tanizhq liking particular neL's tweets quite intriguing: https://i.imgur.com/1tmoeLX.png

If Tanizhq's twitter like on neL's "It's starting. Basically G2 will finalize it's roster, then everything will move." means anything, then this only corroborates the article that was published by neL a week ago. Or the mans could just be baiting.

#15
deva
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What's intriguing? neL already made a report about this a week ago, and plans were also revealed in a spanish podcast. It's just a question of time right now before everything is made public.

#17
Glycoroldas
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Intriguing in terms that he is likely corroborating/confirming the move. I'm aware that neL's record is near perfect or perfect, but in his article he did state that negotiations were ongoing and it was all dependant whether G2 could reach a reasonable agreement with Heretics regarding buyouts for both nukkye and Avova.

#23
Tanizhq
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Don’t read too much into a Twitter like lol, I follow neL and he shared Ruben’s post, so liked that too

#18
Ibis
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Am I the only one who finds nukkye and avova a bit overrated? Nonetheless this team could with a good synergy reach top 5 at best

#19
Glycoroldas
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Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I have my doubts about nukkye being the main duelist on this roster. He does have a decent Raze and Reyna, but he does slack on Jett and op'ing in the current meta, as he is supposedly main OP'er on Heretics team too. At the same time I think that niesow was the superior aggressive duelist over nukkye. Don't get me wrong, nukkye is a solid player, but not the kind of player that could carry a team like cNed does or niesow did in heretics roster.

If this G2 roster iteration is to succeed, they will need to have mad good fundamentals, chemistry and tactical depth. This is not the kind of roster that is gonna win games due to their mechanical skill superiority.

#22
mattgg2015
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nukkye is top 3 in europe and avova is god support

#25
Ibis
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Never. Alone out of the 2 qualified teams for Iceland, I would rate scream, Derke, doma and jamppi ( when he had more time in valorant) higher than nukkye

#27
mattgg2015
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no way are jamppi and doma better than nukkye, this is recency bias

derke might be on the same tier, the top 5 in EU is definitely ScreaM, cNed, Nukkye, Derke, and maybe russ or Zyppan

#20
Helix_Exton
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If Acend, G2, and Heretics fall apart the players are:
ardiis, avova, bonecold, cned, kiles, koldamenta, lowel, mixwell, nukkye, patitek, paura, pyth, rubino, starxo, and zeek.

What teams should keep:

  • Acend (I really don't think they should trade/change anything, but assuming they do decide to change 2 players):
    • cned (cracked Jett/Reyna player, can definitely learn the other duelists)
    • bonecold (cracked smokes player)
    • koldamenta (igl, good Sova)
  • G2 (top 10 team in EU, but I guess they think its broken even thought they aren't giving enough time to the igl + patitek duelist plan):
    • ardiis (still a great and flexible player, although no longer an elite rifler)
    • patitek (great duelist, get him off smokes)
    • pyth (still a top sentinel player in EU, and the best looking player when patitek isn't on duelist)
  • Heretics (also don't think that they should make changes, but if the team is falling apart and they change two players...):
    • lowel (second best player on the team currently, and that's not counting that he's the igl)
    • nukkye (best player on the team, incredible duelist)
    • paura (this one was hard but it's easier to find a great smokes player than it is to find a great sentinel player imo)

This leaves the following 6 players:
avova, kiles, mixwell, rubino, starxo, and zeek

I think that the players out of those 6 that are worth picking up are avova, kiles, rubino, and starxo.

I can't decide where to place these 4 players since I feel that the only one that shouldn't go back to their original team is rubino, and that Heretics should find a good Sova from somewhere else. This would lead to G2 needing 2 if they did not decide to get rubino and have one of them playing something other than Sova, Heretics needing a Sova, and Acend needing 0 changes.

#36
DumboVAL
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Heretics just need to steal patitek and put him on main duelist role, nukkye - second duelist/fill and you have pretty good team, like it was with nieSow which was insane when he played duelists on the team

#24
Darkoplax
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IF this team happened which i hope doesn't , there still could be other changes then what a massive downgrade roster i prefer zeek ardiis patitek pyth mixwell over this

nukkye will be the only shining light of this roster , AvovA/pyth/kold are such low fragging trio that it will be all on nukkye to carry and mixwell is very inconsistent on OP

#29
ValdemieGC
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Man it's 3:30am and I'm not really in the mood to argue.
But that AvovA take is such a terrible one

#26
FireII
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i think that heretics can be a great team with the core that they have as in

lowel, nukkye, paura, avova

the team could go back to dominating if something like what happened to liquid/fnatic with a new pickup. I think lowel and nukkye are locked to stay if this happens, but this whole scenario is unlikely.

#28
Vonik
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koldamenta?

#35
Creaz
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I dont think Kolda is leaving Acend tbh, but who knows

#42
Kumin04
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I don't think this would even be as good as the old Heretics Team

#46
bow___
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i'm saying this isn't good enough team to be TOP 4 EMEA.

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