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TenZ situation with SEN

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hawkval

So since TenZ's contract is expiring at the end of the month with Sentinels does anyone have any leaks if he's staying or not ? Still can't imagine Sentinels letting the biggest brand in Valorant go and he's still more than good to end up on a franchise roster imo.

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RickyIndian
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no leaks yet, but i think tenz should stay. people are forgetting how hard this guy carried SEN. he is probably just as good as dicey/bdog and has a huge brand/following.

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hawkval
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I don't think there's many people in NA that could replace him tbh. And yeah I do agree with you, can't do anything but wait for now tho

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h9zard
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He is better than bdog/dicey. He is the closest to a yay or Cryo in NA.

#7
hawkval
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A tier Chamber player (probably gonna be S tier for franchising)
S tier Duelist

#10
ppmcpoopoo
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no dude the best duelist players can play raze and neon unlike tenz who can only play jett.

take babybay, victor or saya for example.

#11
jawn
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there is a pretty distinct difference between watching tenz play those agents and watching victor etc.

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h9zard
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Just check his stats on Raze and compare it with these players. I know stats aren't everything but also keep in mind tenz never had a yay or dicey on his team to carry the load.

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RickyIndian
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he was that guy to carry the load

so much pressure on his back

#21
hawkval
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tenz can play neon, he just never played in in an official match

#58
Pumsyslayer
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Fns can play neon, he just never played it in an official match

#61
Finessed
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Brain dead american

#62
Pumsyslayer
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I am enjoying my borgors and fries.

#42
chemicqls
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Saya doesn’t play raze at a high level his Jett is much better and same for babybay’s raze. Players on the flex role usually play neon/raze like victor plays it instead of yay, zekken instead of cryo like use ur brain bro

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m11lan
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Bro literally said sayaplayer can play raze and neon lmao, dude saya is onetrick jett, while tenz already main raze and reyna before u touch valorant

Are u watching different game or what?

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Sentinels_BRAZIL
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I'm sure Tenz gonna stay in SEN
Just waiting to see who is joining
Only if SEN roster is shit, then he gonna leave.

#6
ry666
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i think he's still gonna stay with sen as a pro or content creator

#8
jawn
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TenZ to NRG

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RGS_OnToP
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I watched the new podcast with George Geddes
His entire claim is based on a Sen staff member telling him that the Sentinels want to win and that Shahz and Tenz are not held in high esteem by the new coaches

But Sentinels hadn't had any coaches for almost 2 years and now suddenly the new coaches are supposed to get so much power to kick Sentinels clout duo ?sounds unbelievable

and where are Tenz and shahzam F/A announcement

#12
idcabouturopinion
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when the new staff members are the second most consistent team in NA over the past two years they can have that type of say on the roster.. it is highly likely that the new coach is the xset coach and his resume speaks for itself so

#13
Ayush_
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sentinels lose a good chunk of their viewership if Tenz leaves lol at the end of the day their still a business

#14
jawn
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good chunk is an understatement

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symbols07
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they have tarik and he's currently bigger than tenz.

#41
RGS_OnToP
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dont think so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-lDQI9O_I&ab_channel=ChampJOY

#43
chemicqls
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Tarik isn’t on the competitive team bro so it’s not having a huge influence

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symbols07
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and nowhere is it required to have a big player to have an influence. there arent 10 tenz to chose from, eventually they had to move on from him, and guess what they have the next big thing.

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RGS_OnToP
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in which world was xset second most consistent team in NA over the past two years ?
are you drunk ?
https://twitter.com/vranking_gg/status/1534444143195443200 lol

xset only made it to one lan and if the guard hadn't screwed up so badly they wouldn't have made it to champ either
lol 0:2 copenhagen

#22
idcabouturopinion
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lmao ur still living off that 2021 early valorant championship lil bro if you think they can compete as currently constructed and win w rawkus ur an idiot. like i said his resume speaks for itself cornball https://twitter.com/syykont/status/1572999324157595648?s=46&t=tukRcqmI2-nsaSktupbe8Q

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RGS_OnToP
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are you dumb ?
this is from Jun 8, 2022
https://twitter.com/vranking_gg/status/1534444143195443200
is based of stats lol

SyykoNT himself said only top 4 you claim xset is top 2 lol

#33
idcabouturopinion
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u cant read.. he’s talking about how xset consistently finished at least top 4 in each event since 2021.. you sentinels “ fans “ swear you can win off “ clout “ ur not actually fans of the team but fans of the brands u mfs could careless if they go 0-12 in maps as long as shaz is on the team. 😂

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RickyIndian
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the thing is tho, who are the new coaches?

also their contracts expire in december

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RGS_OnToP
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it may be that his contract ends in december
but it doesn't stop both of them from the F/A announcement
when their future at Sentinels is uncertain

and no idea who the new coaches are

#25
RickyIndian
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they aren’t FA until their contracts expire

#26
RGS_OnToP
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yay and marved had long contracts left with optic
hadn't stopped either of them from making an F/A announcement though

If Tenz and Shaz's future at Sentinels is uncertain, I don't think their agency would just sit around
and just wait

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RickyIndian
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they became restricted free agents bro. they are still under contract with optic, but C9 will sign them. this means that when C9 offers them a contract, optic have the opportunity to match the offer IF THEY CHOOSE (which won’t happen)

TenZ and Shaz will become unrestricted FAs by the end of the year, and when they do, they will make a post.

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RGS_OnToP
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end of the year is to late dude
2/5 teams are already locked in Na
and that's what i mean by that tenz and shahz agency won't allow it if they both don't have a future at Sentinels
F/A announcement at the end of the year is much too late because by then all slots are already taken

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coz shaz knows nobody in tier 1 is gonna pick him up, why will he bother putting a f/a announcement, when he can just be a content creator till t2 leagues start. also if you still doubt shaz isnt being removed you can see various clips of him on youtube addressing why he was accountable from the orgs pov etc etc

#39
RickyIndian
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i'm just giving the facts

you can say or do whatever you want with them

SEN will likely let them look for opportunities as restricted FA before the soft roster lock on oct 15

#44
RGS_OnToP
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dude an F/A announcement is there because you want to let other orgs know you're available
what's the point of an F/A announcement at the end of the year ?
if by then all the teams are set anyway?
why would the agency that represent Tenz and Shahz allow Sentinels to do that?

#48
RickyIndian
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alright im done trying to argue with incompetent people

SEN will likely let them look for opportunities as restricted FA before the soft roster lock on oct 15

#57
DanielEVLR
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Sykko or Kaplan maybe?

#64
RickyIndian
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i think you're right

that's probably the most likely at this point

#34
symbols07
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yeah that unbelievable stuff is called change. they couldnt remove shaz mid season while his contract still had time, and neither could they have hired these new guys who want an overhaul. and for tenz and shaz f/a how about you look into what they focused upon. tenz might've already got an offer from eg or something and shaz might've already decided he'll stay on sen as a cc , just coz players dont announce stuff doesnt mean things arent happening. tenz is big enough that orgs will pick him up no matter what, and he definitely isnt the only player who hasnt put lft, you can look all over the world not just na and you'll find cases. it means they already have the next step planned out

#19
hawkval
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Still kinda unlikely he's gonna end up somewhere else than SEN cause not every team is willing to pay 1.25M million $.

#20
RickyIndian
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he will be an unrestricted free agent by the end of the year

#27
hawkval
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i forgor 💀

#56
Enamul_Huq1990
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"Not every team can pay 1.25M"
Bleed who's willing to pay 3M

#29
Zapkhiel
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But who would want to buy it? As a player he is meh and there are many better options and his price would be high

#32
hawkval
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meh? alright dude

#31
ValorantReader
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its very unlikely Tenz wont be on sentinels tbh. He is very big part of sentinels and even finding replacement for him wont be too easy. Even if others can match his avg performance, he still have lot of others things going for him that sentinels needs him for (like his brand, his popularity, etc..). The only way i can see him not getting picked is if he doesnt feel motivated enough to win the trophy compared to his tm8s and THAT is also only if sentinels change their full perspective of how they approach the team and the valorant scene. But at the end of the day we will never know what is happening inside the team. I just hope they find the best people to form the roster and the team members are all as motivated as each other to win championships

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symbols07
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yea sen can benefit from tenz's brand and all but just like george said, they are going to focus on building a proper team and not some streamer team, sen have tarik anyways for the fanbase and clout part. sen dont need to stick with tenz if they dont want to. sure it'll be easier , but they can do 10x better by picking a player who is firstly better in game and secondly doesnt have all this pressure of brands and stuff

#38
RGS_OnToP
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Tarik doesnt even bring viewer to sentinels lol
use your brain for a sec Tarik main source of viewer are his watchparty
problem is that tarik watch game from all orgs not just sentinels
so any views that tarik bring to Sentinels he also bring other teams lol
Tarik Fans arent even Sentinels fans lol
Tenz has fans who only watch Sentinels because of him

btw Tenz has over 8 M follower across all social media Tarik only has around 3M

#45
symbols07
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tarik averages 20k+ on normal streams and dwarfs lil bro tenz on watch parties. yes many fans will move on from sen if he leaves, but that isnt that big of a loss, considering this org wants to focus on actual results and not same clout fiesta like 2022. and people will still care about sentinels enough even if tenz leaves. and most regualr tarik fans not being regular sentinels fans doesnt mean that regular sen fans dont follow him. he still had about 100k more people when he was watching lcq sentinel. he grew from nothing(in viewers) into competing with tenz without being a pro , if not tenz, tarik surely is good enough at the very least, if not better, considering he doesnt have a buyout you had to pay

#49
RGS_OnToP
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Tarik peak LCQ was 200k after the Tenz +shorud game it went down to 50 k dude lol
sentinels fans are Tenz fans No Tenz=no views
Btw Tarik join Sentinels after LQC Basically, he didn't contribute anything to Sentinel's high viewership
so no idea why you think he could replace tenz clout here

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tarik also gets 100k+ regardless what teams playing in vct, tenz doesnt even cross 40k unless its a big match, pls dont compare live viewership of tenz and tarik. you can say all sen fans are coz of tenz, but just dont compare the viewership no.

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RGS_OnToP
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tarik only get 100k if the match is a master or champ game dude but never for a game in Na unless is was a Sen Game
but again 100k is not that much for an international event because shroud used to have watch parties with up to 500k
and watch party is the only department where Tarik is bigger than Tenz
Tenz beat him on youtube ,tiktok,twitter and Ig

#40
helohelo
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the average valorant player who only plays once a month would know tenz not tarik

#47
symbols07
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yea and that will eventually change, people wont keep tuning into see a big name tenz underperform under a bad igl and team structure for the third year in a row. 99% viewership doesnt come from that casual once a month guy either. sure he is the face of val but thats that. tenz is definitely bigger, but if you want to get better, its much more worth to remove him and go forward rather than trying to work with what doesnt work

#54
elayaCL
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Maybe there's no info? not every transfer or movement is known for those who has "contacts"

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Kiklop
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If he gets offers from other franchised teams i wouldnt be surprised if he leaves

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