Riot investigations

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traviswheeler

Riot released this statement in regards to the allegations made against a Gamechangers player cwaudia a couple weeks (months?) ago by another player or figure in the scene saying that cwaudia and her bf assaulted her when she was very drunk, https://twitter.com/an1megf/status/1560375266769530881?s=20&t=jl5OLvG0RUJhLEcg9R0PYw this is the original allegation. cwaudia made a response but i cant find it. both sides seemed pretty messy when it came back, and there was absolutely foul play involved some side. but not time has passed and riot has found no new information which is embarrassing because there was so much to investigate off of. This is also similar to sinatraas case where they made no headway but then Cleoh came out and said she wasnt asked for the video by riot nor questioned at all by them. So they fumble that investigation and now this one, and i gotta ask are they even trying at all?? now we have to potential assaulters in the scene, or two players whos rep have been tarnished because riot cant find literally anything, cant confirm one detail even. these are serious allegations on both side and riot just doesnt care which is honestly awful

edit: if u have cwaudias response pls link

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Riot is not a government agency, they can only determine so much in their investigations without a warrant to search people’s possessions. All they can really do is ask people questions and threaten to suspend them if they don’t cooperate, so it’s not really surprising that they haven’t found much in either case.

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they can threaten to not remove them from the game entirely, force sinatraa/ cwaudia to give a written and signed statement to what happened or not be allowed to play, and then go off of that statement as well as the accuser/victims statement find the discrepancies and investigate them by talking to other parties involved and seeing where the truth lies, but i wouldnt be surprised if riot just said that shit and then did absolutely nothing and then tweeted this shit after a bit.

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In sinatraas case they tried to do that but he didn't co-operate which resulted in him getting a temporary ban.

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Not much riot can do yet they will still fuck up doing the bare minimum

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the whole thing is so weird like why isnt the guy who did it "known"/namedropped.
i feel like thats very important????

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cioccolat

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this is literally the police's job dude, riots work is games and ban people who are proven to have committed a crime or violate their code of conduct. thats it.

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im not saying its riots job to criminally prosecute them or that their findings should be used in a criminal prosecution against them. but i think i speak for many when i said i dont want sexual assaulters and rapists in the game and because riot has the power to investigate these things and the power to ban players from competing they should use that to find any truth to the allegations made in both cwaudias ( a woman) and sinatraas (a man) case. They should also use the investigation to clear the names of the accused if they allegations have no basis. When these players are big figures in such a public scene that represents riot, riot has an obligation to its players and fans to investigate these properly.

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cioccolat

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they cant tho, they cant properly investigate these things cuz theyre not the police, they have no warrants or power over players, what are they gonna do? ban a player that turns out to be innocent? what if the person with proof doesnt play valorant? what leverage does riot have?

Riot has no power. all they can do is wait for the legal verdicts and then act , "but the image" you think they dont want to have a pristine image? its incredibly profitable to be moral, but they cant do shit when someone that simply plays the game fucks up, hell, its more of an asshole move on our part as an audience to associate the actions of people that dont work FOR RIOT to riot in the first place.

TO SUMMARIZE. RIOT DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO PROVE STUFF. THEY CAN ONLY REACT ACCORDING TO THE LAW

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traviswheeler

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riot has leverage over the players, which are the ones accused, so they can force them to cooperate and BAN them if they DONT COOPERATE, not ban them for doing it or not doing it but for not cooperating. riot wont have leverage on the accusers especially if they dont play valorant professionally but because they are the accusers and have the burden of proof i think they will more than likely comply and cooperate, and if they dont then riot can just say hey we tried but the accuser wont cooperate so we cant do anything and thats fine, but that isnt what is happening or being told to us.

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Riot doesn't even do a good job investigating their own treatment of women employees, what makes you think they will do a good job investigating other's actions?

It's still very wrong and unfortunate, but I kind of expect if from a company where misogyny runs rampant at this point

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traviswheeler

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yeah its so fucked but i guess i was just hoping to create awareness but tbh val community could care less about SA which is fucked but how it goes in gaming