Tenz really out here...

Except Tenz, himself, never mentioned the final bit.

And this narrative makes no sense. If Yay always plays good, then the success of the team depends on everyone else playing their roles properly, why would it depend solely on Victor?

Alright, I've already debunked your statement that TenZ is claiming Yay consistently plays well therefore the success depends on Victor in my response to scream fan. Like that doesn't even make sense since the claim that TenZ was responding to was, "Optic is screwed if Yay doesn't show up."

I'll spell out the TACIT claim. Since Yay is constantly putting up great numbers, TenZ is undermining Yay's consistency and uplifting Victor's position since TenZ is also Sentinel's entry. In other words, he's arguing that Victor (and thereby TenZ as proxy) is playing a much harder game and impactful role for the team.

edit: grammar

Ppl seem to be braindead when it comes to understanding how this game works.

Leave your rank and IGN.

If you think a good entry is determined by whether you get a kill or not, that's exactly the braindead take you're purporting that people have. You can entry and get 0 kills, but if you leave enough space for your team to occupy the site and force the enemy to be visible through multiple chokepoints, you've done your duty exceptionally.
If you think a duelist can just enter site, kill everyone, while the team just enters, at the pro scene, no less, then you're braindead. A equal amount of responsibility for a successful entry is the 2nd entry, typically the initiator, who supports the duelist by either shutting down the enemy's util, blinding them, or binding them, and trades the entry (this is also where Victor makes the majority of his mistakes). It is so much easier for the duelist to only deal with someone shooting at you than if the enemy has full util and can either chip away your health for free, bind/blind you, and/or has the free peeker's/positional advantage.
The reason why a duelist can pop off where everyone has cracked aims is because the teammates create the situations for it. The duelist typically don't create the situation alone, they literally just try to create space and take aim duels. And finally, Optic doesn't run a fucking typical rank pub setup where the duelist enters and 4 people follow him. Often enough, the sentinel or controller followed by the initiator enters while the duelist takes side control with the help of another agent, or vice versa. Does that mean the game is determined by whoever entries? And only in the site's main entry?

Did you know why Fnatic lost to 100T ? Cause Will pop the fuck off and derke/alfajer wasn't able to do their job as duelist properly.

So the stats matter if the duelists are top fragging, but if it's anyone else, such as Yay, it doesn't matter? What is your argument? I could quite literally say the same thing: do you know why Optic won against TL? Because Yay popped the fuck off.

I'm braindead? No, that's not the point I was making at all. The point is if it's structured like OPTIC have it then it doesn't matter, because everything is already planned. No that's not the reason FNC lost to 100t lmao. We can talk about that. On pearl they had a bizarre setup where alfa was playing mid on neon and derke was on the A exec... very strange. They made a bunch of other small micro mistakes that aren't relevant to this convo but in short both Alfa and Derke did p well in terms of "killing", just because they're two good players.

Have you been around for the past year and a half? If so, you should know that duelists such as Raze and neon are no longer these characters that people go loosely running round the map looking for picks with, they're simply used to create space and sometimes delay. For that role, you're looking at Chamber, which yay plays. "Yay pops off regardless of win or lose" thanks for proving my point ?XD. This means that he always has insane impact. Most of the time optic lose it's because they make some stupid mistakes as we literally just witnessed on Ascent (I didn't see haven, but I imagine it was p similar).

You call me braindead, but I don't think you understand how site takes work. I will repeat. They are not made up on the spot. Victor barely ever will decide where he's blast packing to, or neon walling to, this is planned and orchestrated. He is simply another tool in the massive operation of OPTIC. And yeah, as long as he entries and dies yet creates enough space for the site to be taken with minimal casualties, which he usually does then yes, he did good. That's not having big impact though, that just shows they've planned/orchestrated it well (or either the enemy team are trolling XD).

You're right, if your duelist dies on attack it is not good. Again, this doesn't affect their impact. The only reason it is not good is because it is a duelist and their util is key for taking sites. It's not about getting kills. Victor isn't some master at staying alive and in fact he dies a bit more often than he really should be.

Oh, you're talking about his last bit lol.
Dude, Victor's performance relies on Yay performing well. Of course, if the rest of the team is pulling their weight and Victor doesn't (usually when he plays Kay/o and has to be the first initiator or 2nd entry), then the team will collapse. The stats suggest it, the scores suggest it, the gameplay suggests it, but that's not the point. The point is TenZ is claiming Victor is more important than Yay and more impactful, yet he's ignoring how Yay has been performing consistently well such that it usually comes down to Victor's performance to make or break the team. The question is, if Yay absolutely can't pull his weight, like some of Victor's game, can the rest of the team carry Yay's weight with just Victor's entry? The answer is probably a no.

edit: your youtube video also agrees with me about what TenZ says directly lol...