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#1
WinterZ

what are your hottest takes about the meta of valorant (this can be for one map or for all maps)? I'll go first.

Cypher should be meta (or at least be used by more teams) on Ascent

#2
Sushi_
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Jett nerf isnt nearly as catastrophic as people act
Cypher and killjoy are both super viable on ceartain maps
sincerely, a bronze 3 pleb

#3
sheahhhh
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reyna should be used on bind

#4
Dybala21
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Reyna should be use often in team comps in current meta

#5
charizard_123
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there really isn't a "should", teams play what will win them games, and these teams know far better than any of us, there must be plenty of reasons why kj or chamber are favored

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Netero
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Viper post plant mollies are harder than using chamber op

#7
33AJ
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Jett is viable on all maps except fracture

#8
ChromeDZN
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They should use lineups more

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DELUSIONAL_SHAHZAM_FAN
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-Brimstone stim beacon is shit and needs to be scrapped completely, change the beacon to be an anti smoke deployable (ie: throw it into a smoke and it will dissipate the smoke in 3 seconds, throw it so it’s radius touches viper wall and it can cut out a portion of the viper wall), with VALORANT getting more and more smoke agents, it’s about time to add some more depth to smoke agents and add one with anti smoke capabilities

-Add more 2 angle corners in the game, making corners 1 angle (meaning you only have to check either the left or the right) means players will have to recon / use AOE damage more cautiously

#10
spookmeister
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ChromeDZN [#8]

They should use lineups more

Yeah I noticed most of the time it’s only initiator pings that they use lineups for (Kayo knife, fade eye, sova dart), or they use a molly in a set play to cut off an angle before taking a site
Very rarely does a team throw down a viper orb on bomb and just lineup the round

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spookmeister
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DELUSIONAL_SHAHZAM_FAN [#9]

-Brimstone stim beacon is shit and needs to be scrapped completely, change the beacon to be an anti smoke deployable (ie: throw it into a smoke and it will dissipate the smoke in 3 seconds, throw it so it’s radius touches viper wall and it can cut out a portion of the viper wall), with VALORANT getting more and more smoke agents, it’s about time to add some more depth to smoke agents and add one with anti smoke capabilities

-Add more 2 angle corners in the game, making corners 1 angle (meaning you only have to check either the left or the right) means players will have to recon / use AOE damage more cautiously

Nah I like the stimmy. Movement and fire rate buff is nice to have. Anti-smoke is too strong also, the most you can do and keep the game balanced is Kay/O’s prevention of utility.

#12
Sasi
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Chamber meta is very boring in game hold angle for half the game

#13
hiimnsk
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Sushi_ [#2]

Jett nerf isnt nearly as catastrophic as people act
Cypher and killjoy are both super viable on ceartain maps
sincerely, a bronze 3 pleb

First isnt hot

#14
WinterZ
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Sasi [#12]

Chamber meta is very boring in game hold angle for half the game

I said hot takes

#15
simza
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100% agree on cypher should be meta
also yoru is extremly powerful if your team is coordinated

#16
Sushi_
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hiimnsk [#13]

First isnt hot

maybe cooling off now, but their was a period of time after the nerf where people were acting like it was gonna cripple jett + i really dont think it did that much

#17
Ultimateattack
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on maps with small corners like bind if you lose the pistol round but get the plant down its prob btr if u force stingers into the next rnd?

#18
hiimnsk
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Sushi_ [#16]

maybe cooling off now, but their was a period of time after the nerf where people were acting like it was gonna cripple jett + i really dont think it did that much

True. I see it as a change rather than a nerf, you just need to use it wisely and plan ahead abit. Dont think jett iss any weaker cause of it

#19
SnooTangerines
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Pheonix is actually decent.

#20
WinterZ
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Sushi_ [#2]

Jett nerf isnt nearly as catastrophic as people act
Cypher and killjoy are both super viable on ceartain maps
sincerely, a bronze 3 pleb

amen brotha

#21
WinterZ
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SnooTangerines [#19]

Pheonix is actually decent.

ScreaM moment

#22
WinterZ
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DELUSIONAL_SHAHZAM_FAN [#9]

-Brimstone stim beacon is shit and needs to be scrapped completely, change the beacon to be an anti smoke deployable (ie: throw it into a smoke and it will dissipate the smoke in 3 seconds, throw it so it’s radius touches viper wall and it can cut out a portion of the viper wall), with VALORANT getting more and more smoke agents, it’s about time to add some more depth to smoke agents and add one with anti smoke capabilities

-Add more 2 angle corners in the game, making corners 1 angle (meaning you only have to check either the left or the right) means players will have to recon / use AOE damage more cautiously

I like the idea of an anti-smoke device. @riot come this guy giving u free agent ideas

#23
NANNE
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  1. If teams keeps using the Fpx lineup (No breach) in fracture, killjoy gonna be meta on that map
  2. Omen is actually great for opers
  3. Astra is still the strongest controller.
#24
WinterZ
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Case in point…

#25
WinterZ
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NANNE [#23]
  1. If teams keeps using the Fpx lineup (No breach) in fracture, killjoy gonna be meta on that map
  2. Omen is actually great for opers
  3. Astra is still the strongest controller.

viper, cypher and astra all also underrated oping agents

#26
SHROOMz
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NANNE [#23]
  1. If teams keeps using the Fpx lineup (No breach) in fracture, killjoy gonna be meta on that map
  2. Omen is actually great for opers
  3. Astra is still the strongest controller.

W take

#27
ChromeDZN
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SnooTangerines [#19]

Pheonix is actually decent.

fr

#28
S1N
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We need to Buff the operator so other agents can use it and this will lead to chamber's pick rate to be lowered

#29
Calangod
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S1N [#28]

We need to Buff the operator so other agents can use it and this will lead to chamber's pick rate to be lowered

opposite, chamber pick rate would skyrocket, to buff the operator riot needs to nerf chamber.

#30
Calangod
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NANNE [#23]
  1. If teams keeps using the Fpx lineup (No breach) in fracture, killjoy gonna be meta on that map
  2. Omen is actually great for opers
  3. Astra is still the strongest controller.

viper is by far the best, she is really good on 5 of the seven maps, uncontested must pick on 2, pro play bind she's almost becoming a must pick as well, fundamental agent in double controller comps

#31
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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i wish the meta allowed for more player creativity (different comps, higher skill ceiling agents)

a few agents have such a low skill ceiling (CHAMBER, kayo, fade) but have such a huge impact on the game rn. we need more characters like like neon, she is good but you actually need to have good utility and movement to take advantage of her.

i see some of crazy movement clips on twitter where they are bhopping, backwards dashing and chaining it with good util and i love seeing it. it takes SKILL to actually be able to pull it off and CREATIVITY to even come up with it. we need more of that. not get out of jail free cards and abilities that dont require much thought to get a lot of impact out of

#32
charizard_123
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Calangod [#29]

opposite, chamber pick rate would skyrocket, to buff the operator riot needs to nerf chamber.

both are needed, op without an escape agent is really slow

#33
tarik_chatter
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the only way to prevent op agents from taking over the game (jett/chamber/whatever asshat agent riot pulls out again) is to BUFF THE OPERATOR
if we just make the operator like the csgo awp we could use more agents in that operator role and vary the meta a bit more

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