Gen.G vs. TSM | Champions Tour North America Stage 2: Challengers 2 | Open Qualifier | Valorant match

you guys saying this didnt age well when i was saying they had to easiest pass ever to GET to this game . No edits no nothing from days before they made it to this game

valplayer1

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GENG gonna deny TSM again?

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PP4ND4

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GENG lost last time tho

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valplayer1

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I meant in qualifier, GENG beat TSM in stage 1 challenger 2 qualifier

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Reqru1t

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That was LAST time lmao

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wexleu

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Last time TSM won was in Challanger 3 before masters

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TakeBeer

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nope

STRAWHAT

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Sadge GenG or TSM is out hope this gets to map 3

greedeetv

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Honestly... I'm not a TSM fan, so don't call me out... But I think TSM take this one 2-1. I think TSM, for a while, have had a good read on GenG as a team. If GenG doesn't come up with come crazy shit, I think TSM could pull out an upset here. Both teams look shaky as of late, but the pressure is definitely on GenG. I think it's close either way.

mAko

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FNS???

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greedeetv

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Sorry I keep thinking FNS is on GenG. Dunno why. Mixing NV and GenG I guess, both are pretty boring.

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greedeetv

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SHEEEEEEEEESH looking good so far

mAko

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AGAIN? lmao. Seeding on purpose

kurama3x

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TSM redemption time

beb0p

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if god roza shows up they win, if bot roza shows up they lose

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Rimuru_T

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exactlyyyyyy

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PP4ND4

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fax if Roza plays bad they lose no question. Unless Wardell goes off

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PG_newt

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wardell went off

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beb0p

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and we got god roza at the same time pog

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kurama3x

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easy win for TSM

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Tsm_Diamond

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#TSMWIN

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Rush112

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pretty sure tsm got this in the bag they been on a win streak against gen g for a while now

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syn505

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literally only one game since their last loss to gen g.
TSM did look better than Gen G last matchup though.

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SelectiveFucksGiven

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Want TSM to win here just to stop hearing all this TSM hate.

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kfox

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i'm getting flashbacks to koosta's 2v1 clutch...

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DARZY

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It is always TSM vs GenG kekw
Again GenG wins

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PP4ND4

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TSM won last time tho

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SerPnau

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both so bad

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SunnyD

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betting this dudes iron

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swaglord69

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ah here we go again

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raka_gg

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2.60 odds against bot hazed and bot cutler looool brax on bench.....

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NSG_Observer_2

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Lol tsm are so braindead they almost lost to aussies lol they need to drop there braindead coach

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Dylxn

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This is going to be another close match up but I think that Gen.G will pull through and take it 2-1 over TSM

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beb0p

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are you the real dylxn or are you fake

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plas

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doesnt matter i agree with the GENG prediction ez

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WitLitning

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bro every time tsm plays geng all i hear is the reyna dismiss sound all game long from when shawn kills wardell

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sampenn1

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Shawns literally the op killer

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Rush112

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damn thats crazy all i heard was the jett dash after wardell shredding

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WitLitning

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it was so beautiful. i’m a tsm fan btw just been thru so much shit it’s tough to trust the boys

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swaglord69

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tf u mean real is he famous or something

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plas

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itsa guy on twitter

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beb0p

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https://twitter.com/NottDylxn

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xdee1234

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hes some rando 12 year old whos convinced hes on sentinels

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Dylxn

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i got verified now so u don’t have to ask anymore

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beb0p

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noiceeeeee

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GetsystheGr8

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SEN are trash 13-5 by BBG... then easiest run to qualify in history...

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NSG_Observer_2

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LMFAO YOUR CAREER IS BEING A SEN FAN BOY YOU SHOULD JUST QUIT WHILE YOUR AT IT 😂 😂😂😂

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Dylxn

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i’m a community moderator?

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Ryxof

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Why brax didnt play last tsm game. Is there a reason or was it preference

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swaglord69

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idk but i feel like they need brax if they wanna beat geng.

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connorwalsh

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I add, I multiply, I subtract and divide and I can't understand how Subroza is so hot. Let's go TSM!

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XQOM

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TSM Wins
lol

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GetsystheGr8

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TSM 2-0 13-10 Icebox and then 13-3 Ascent

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Dylxn

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very bold, do you think they will be playing brax this series?

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SamTheGreat47

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hopefully lmfao. I don't mean to be rude or anything like literally everyone on this site but brax seems more consistent.

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pewpew

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Their synergy with brax is awful tho. They haven't had enough practice to play well as you can see from first qualifier.

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plas

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TSM recently got shit on by soniqs on icebox so i dont know about that prediction i think GenG are the ones who 2-0
edit: i am wrong guys rip my prediction game :(

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GetsystheGr8

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But GenG got shit on by COM...

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pewpew

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Nah, Soniqs on Icebox is a different breed. Even SEN almost got shit on CT side. Soniqs got to 9-3 half. But SEN managed to pull the comeback cuz the players are just individually better and they won the gun fights on T side. I think most teams would lose to Soniqs with their Viper/Killjoy post plants comp.

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Rimuru_T

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upvote for u :)

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plas

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taxxje

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TSM have only dropped 1 Bo3 to GenG and it was during Reyna stinger meta. I think they have a good shot here and need it more than anything. If not, then bye bye Cutler :(

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swaglord69

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even if they win i think its about time they say bye bye cutler if they really wanna shot at iceland

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WitLitning

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I was one of the first TSM fans to vocally call for Cutler's removal, but now I'm reluctant. The team should probably keep him to play Astra in some games. Let's take full advantage of the 6-man roster. Play Brax unless Cutler is required. TSM can switch them out per map.

I think TSM needs to bring in another player before they can fully drop Cutler. Brax isn't the same type of player as Cutler. He's like Wardell in that I only realistically see him on sentinel agents. If he can expand his agent pool, I'd love to be surprised.

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pewpew

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It shows that you are not familiar with TSM. Brax mains duelists like Jett/Reyna, not sentinels. He was put in the sentinel position cuz the team needed it more to replace Hazed on the first qualifier. I really don't think Brax can do any good with TSM's comp cuz no way TSM gets rid of Wardell/Drone/Broza, which means that only Hazed and Cutler can be cut. But Hazed is sentinel and Cutler is IGL which Brax is not known to be good at those roles.

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krayzeemf

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??????????????????? wdym brax always played sentinel agents on t1. only on stream does he play duelists. everyone likes playing duelists cuz its fun to play and watch.

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pewpew

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Lol, have you heard him saying how much better he plays duelists compared to sentinels? Playing sentinel on T1 doesn't mean shit cuz T1 was horrible back then anyways. The fact that he has only played sentinel on his previous team doesn't mean that that is his full potential as a player

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WitLitning

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Eh, you can check comment history if you want. I'm a pretty big fan lol, I'd say I'm familiar with the team and the comps they like to run. Until he mains duelists in pro play against legitimate teams, I'm not buying it. Comp is one thing, pro play is another.

Like I've said a few times before, he doesn't really fit TSM's roster. It's hard to replace Cutler since I don't think Brax can IGL or play Astra. I'd rather keep Hazed.

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Yagami

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Brax or Hazed both can play Astra, it's not a big thing. And really if TSM is looking for long term benefits, they should replace Cutler with Brax or else everyone have seen in past months that now Cutler is not a player who can win you match on his own performance. And if people say he's playing controller, I'd give example of Gmd, s0m, Nirto and many more who play support but still frag for team very well.

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WitLitning

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So when Hazed plays Viper on Icebox and Split, are you putting Brax on Astra or sentinels? And who else on the team plays the agent that Brax isn’t on? That’s what has to be considered here.

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Yagami

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Since Hazed is IGLing rn and it's going good, and Hazed and Brax both are flex they can play Astra well if given time to practice with team. I'll always vouch for Brax in and Cutler out, but they just need time to build synergy with Brax.

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lmao 11 head to heads. Is this the most teams have played each other.
i think GenG have this 2-0 btw
edit: now im starting to think tsm 2-1 because GenG has been looking sloppy with there 2-1s over t3 and low t2 teams

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TSM after this game: "Thank you Cutler"

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chameleoN

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2-1 GenG

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crunchers

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#TSMWIN 2-1 LESSS GOOOO

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NSG_Observer_2

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Having trouble deciding which team is stupider can someone help me

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Rimuru_T

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probably ur comment is the stupidest compared to the both teams

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Hedron

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You both have terrible grammer

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Rimuru_T

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may i know which grammar? u mean stupider and stupidest?

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Rimuru_T

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if thats the case both are real words in case u dont know

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Rizvi

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GEN G wins 2-0, though I want the reverse :(

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Seldruddd

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I have a feeling that TSM is coming back into form but their Ascent is weak dropping a lot of rounds vs nobody teams they will straight up lose to GenG's Ascent no problem. I like that they are trying Astra and Skye though they are looking good

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syn505

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Aged horribly. I hope you saw the first half of Ascent from TSM lol.

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HQTSHQT

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TSM 1 : Gen.G 2

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Spicydog

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I'm OOTL, why does everyone hate TSM now? Did they do some cancellable shit?

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Zaynio

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People hate TSM because they went from a top 2 team to a top 8 team right after First Strike. Mostly dissappointing results fuel the "hate" but then again, people like to crap talk a lot of the time.

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M4trix

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I hope they play brax and bench cutler

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connorwalsh

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according to what we can see here right now, Brax is not playing Ascent :( Bench Cutler pls

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PP4ND4

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Why tsm pick ascent its there worst map

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MaOdennn

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lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo "worst"

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PP4ND4

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nvm LMAO

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MaOdennn

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bruh geng just fluked their first win series against tsm last time

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eLbRiLLoEUW

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this gonna be a fast 2:0 for TSM

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rohitpulipaka

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WARDELL LOOKS SPICY 3 Flawless in a row.... Wardell first 3 rounds: 4K 3K 3K

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Canuling16

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HOLYYY DELLYYY IS SMURFINGGG!! TSM LOOKS SOO GOOD

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plas

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every team keeps on proving me wrong which is really nice to see. if both faze and geng miss out then both the final qualifier and the challengers 2 closed will definitely be more interesting. good for tsm :)

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xdee1234

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look at wardell man

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Zaynio

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TSM's return to power?

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pewpew

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TSM is 9-0 at the moment and I still do not feel secured man, their past inconsistencies left me with traumas lol. Anyways, Letssss goooo thoooooo

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pewpew

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As I posted this, they lost a round... FML FML FML lmao

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pewpew

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Lost another... I jinxed it...

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GetsystheGr8

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Yea fuck u

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pewpew

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nah fuck u, u stupid fk

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GetsystheGr8

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GG TSM HATERS MALDING

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mAko

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GODDELLLL

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mAko

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no tarkov diff

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PG_newt

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WARDELL SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

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pewpew

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Look at Curry man, so inspirational

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WitLitning

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jesus christ wardell. i should have never doubted my team.

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MaOdennn

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dont doubt brother

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salty

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Oh my Wardell. Haven is normally TSM's usual ban we see how it goes

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STRAWHAT

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WARDELL diff first map

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MaOdennn

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always has been

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raka_gg

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Looks like brax will stay benched for another couple of months

GENg needs 2 or 3 changes

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beb0p

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tsm could still be better with brax, tho they are looking really good right now

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beb0p

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throw solo mid? wtf is going on
EDIT: thank god

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FIreFistOM

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I was worried there for a bit

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Rush112

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ez 2-0. got me sweating near the end but letsgooooooo

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mAko

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Subroza needs to fast until Reykjavik

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pewpew

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Ramadan did only good things to TSM...upvote if agree lmao

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supernova

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Subroza looking insane last games

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Swiftmal12

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The calling from Gen G's IGL was awful during this he made a good call like twice in 2 entire games lmao

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pewpew

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Jett 16-32 vs Jett 52-18 True definition of Jett diff
If this is not a Jett diff, what is a Jett diff?

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CeeRN

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so like does Brax actually play in the team or...?

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MrUnknown

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They(TSM) don‘t know either, well at least, that is what Hazed said

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Nahue1709

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TSM is back on the servers finally