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so 4 regions for franchise right?

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#1
Hecking_Love_Tenz

EMEA
America (NA+SA)
APAC (SEA+KR+JP+AUS+SA)
China

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Victorie
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Game is not released in China.

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TMosura
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Victorie [#2]

Game is not released in China.

Not yet

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Matrix13e
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Victorie [#2]

Game is not released in China.

it will be by 2023

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Victorie
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Matrix13e [#4]

it will be by 2023

How do you know that?

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JiangLi
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No China dude only 3 regions

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Typer
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What's franchising? Can someone explain

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Victorie
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TMosura [#3]

Not yet

Of course “not yet” , but it’s been “not yet” since 2020. Games like Fortnite and Rocket League never got approved either.

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Victorie [#8]

Of course “not yet” , but it’s been “not yet” since 2020. Games like Fortnite and Rocket League never got approved either.

Let's hope the goddamn government stop the freeze then

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I hope they make it APAC S(SEA+SA+OCE) and APAC N(KR+JP+CN)

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VibsTV
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Typer [#7]

What's franchising? Can someone explain

Team will get place in the league irrespective of they play dogshit or best. Everyteam will play in a league it doesn't matter whether a team in the league has 1silver player and 4 bronze they will still play in the league

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OzyMeister
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Typer [#7]

What's franchising? Can someone explain

IPL but for valorant

#13
Hecking_Love_Tenz
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OzyMeister [#10]

I hope they make it APAC S(SEA+SA+OCE) and APAC N(KR+JP+CN)

yea Asia is too big

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kbkdark
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OzyMeister [#10]

I hope they make it APAC S(SEA+SA+OCE) and APAC N(KR+JP+CN)

There's no way to happen... Valorant is not released in China
It's gonna be just APAC (SEA+SA+OCE+KR+JP)

EDIT: I think that for this ideia happens, they need to put MENA in APAC, then we got:

APAC West (MENA+SEA+SA)
APAC East (KR+JP+OCE)

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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#13]

yea Asia is too big

exactly not to forget they added Oceania too

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kbkdark [#14]

There's no way to happen... Valorant is not released in China
It's gonna be just APAC (SEA+SA+OCE+KR+JP)

EDIT: I think that for this ideia happens, they need to put MENA in APAC, then we got:

APAC West (MENA+SEA+SA)
APAC East (KR+JP+OCE)

Ik valulrant is not released in china but does it matters? I mean if we get franchising cant the chinese team shift outside china ofc it would'nt be as easy as I am saying but they could no?

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OzyMeister [#10]

I hope they make it APAC S(SEA+SA+OCE) and APAC N(KR+JP+CN)

Where’s HK/TW ?

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kbkdark
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Shashwat_Singh [#17]

Where’s HK/TW ?

Ignore this reply... typed some missinformation 😅

#19
OzyMeister
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Shashwat_Singh [#17]

Where’s HK/TW ?

HK/TW is in SEA as per Riot

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kbkdark
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OzyMeister [#19]

HK/TW is in SEA as per Riot

Ow... didn't know that

#21
jimjam789
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oce and sa getting spots in asian league...

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OzyMeister
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kbkdark [#18]

Ignore this reply... typed some missinformation 😅

mate stop being a clown

#23
Hecking_Love_Tenz
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jimjam789 [#21]

oce and sa getting spots in asian league...

why not south asia? wtf?

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kbkdark
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OzyMeister [#22]

mate stop being a clown

Why being a clown? I just didn't know some informations... after you replied they belong to SEA, I edited mine

btw I wrote "I think", showing that I was not sure

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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#23]

why not south asia? wtf?

sa cant even beat tier 2 apac

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jimjam789 [#25]

sa cant even beat tier 2 apac

yea DK got fucked by GE lol

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juno_VLR
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why tf they gonna give a whole region to china, that's like a nonexistent scene.
and is the american league still limited to 8, riot on some bullshit

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OzyMeister
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kbkdark [#24]

Why being a clown? I just didn't know some informations... after you replied they belong to SEA, I edited mine

btw I wrote "I think", showing that I was not sure

you said taiwan is a part of China
I don't need to elaborate more

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juno_VLR [#27]

why tf they gonna give a whole region to china, that's like a nonexistent scene.
and is the american league still limited to 8, riot on some bullshit

cuz China itself is bigger than any continent

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juno_VLR [#27]

why tf they gonna give a whole region to china, that's like a nonexistent scene.
and is the american league still limited to 8, riot on some bullshit

Well until they released the game- plus, China has honestly the infrastructure, economy, and fanbase to stand on its own once the game is popular enough

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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#26]

yea DK got fucked by GE lol

and did nothing again while dk came 3rd in that tourney. wheres ge now?

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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#26]

yea DK got fucked by GE lol

Kr besides DRX is tier 3 APAC mate he said tier 2

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KoreanOverlord
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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#26]

yea DK got fucked by GE lol

biggest fluke in history of valorant esports

I say this unironically with the upmost seriousness

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KoreanOverlord
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OzyMeister [#32]

Kr besides DRX is tier 3 APAC mate he said tier 2

next year youre gonna turn into a KR bandwagon when we win every apac tournament

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Hecking_Love_Tenz
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jimjam789 [#31]

and did nothing again while dk came 3rd in that tourney. wheres ge now?

who knows? GE might go 2nd in KR lol
They deserve 1 spot since they bring more than 20k viewership too

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KoreanOverlord [#34]

next year youre gonna turn into a KR bandwagon when we win every apac tournament

if OGT gets more korean players(which are quite good imo) sure mate but otherwise east asian teams are about to get exposed hard I still believe DRX is the only great team from east asia(dk about CN yet) but otherwise its on same level as rest of the APAC t1 teams if not worse

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OzyMeister [#32]

Kr besides DRX is tier 3 APAC mate he said tier 2

all of xerxia got diffed by meteor and joxjo. meteor wasnt even considered a top 3 duelist in kr and joxjo was a 'no name'. nt

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KoreanOverlord
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OzyMeister [#36]

if OGT gets more korean players(which are quite good imo) sure mate but otherwise east asian teams are about to get exposed hard I still believe DRX is the only great team from east asia(dk about CN yet) but otherwise its on same level as rest of the APAC t1 teams if not worse

DK >> XIA > APAC

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OzyMeister [#32]

Kr besides DRX is tier 3 APAC mate he said tier 2

We’re 7-3 against APAC, stop writing false narratives in your head

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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#35]

who knows? GE might go 2nd in KR lol
They deserve 1 spot since they bring more than 20k viewership too

theres no physical capacity in which one looks at dk ons roster and goes 'damn ge is better on paper!' or watches the gameplays of both and goes 'damn GE is better coordinated and better strategically!'. but yeah they will probably get one due to GE huge viewership

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SIRZONE
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Victorie [#2]

Game is not released in China.

But china got 2 slots for the upcoming East Asia LCQ

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KoreanOverlord [#38]

DK >> XIA > APAC

sure a team which couldn't qualify for Korean finals and lost to GE is better than a team which finished 5th in champs

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jimjam789 [#40]

theres no physical capacity in which one looks at dk ons roster and goes 'damn ge is better on paper!' or watches the gameplays of both and goes 'damn GE is better coordinated and better strategically!'. but yeah they will probably get one due to GE huge viewership

Pretty sure viewership is not what riot is looking at for franchising

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Hecking_Love_Tenz
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jimjam789 [#40]

theres no physical capacity in which one looks at dk ons roster and goes 'damn ge is better on paper!' or watches the gameplays of both and goes 'damn GE is better coordinated and better strategically!'. but yeah they will probably get one due to GE huge viewership

Viewership should be accounted too
If you are bitter about just 1 SA's slot, then KR should bring consistent 20k+ viewership
Franchising is business after all

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KoreanOverlord
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OzyMeister [#42]

sure a team which couldn't qualify for Korean finals and lost to GE is better than a team which finished 5th in champs

youre so brainwashed its hard to explain what NTH beating XIA really means

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KoreanOverlord [#45]

youre so brainwashed its hard to explain what NTH beating XIA really means

So you are saying if nth beats xia they can also beat all the other apac teams which xia can defeat ?

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OzyMeister [#42]

sure a team which couldn't qualify for Korean finals and lost to GE is better than a team which finished 5th in champs

they didnt specifically come 5th in champs, and that roster had pati, whilst dk roster has improved by twofold. guys using the fact that dk lost to ge when we can say dk beat prx lmaoooo.

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KoreanOverlord
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Shashwat_Singh [#46]

So you are saying if nth beats xia they can also beat all the other apac teams which xia can defeat ?

no shit

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KoreanOverlord [#45]

youre so brainwashed its hard to explain what NTH beating XIA really means

never denied Korean players are good check #36 I'm talking about teams here besides DRX the rest are no better than t1 from APAC

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Shashwat_Singh [#43]

Pretty sure viewership is not what riot is looking at for franchising

GE is a well renowned and trusted org as well tho no? its not like a scummy org that ive heard SA pubg mobile orgs are

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OzyMeister [#28]

you said taiwan is a part of China
I don't need to elaborate more

Well... they have a real long "politic fight" about it, cause Taiwan politics declares themselves as an independent country, but China never recognized it

Some countries acknowledge Taiwan as a Chinese province, and others acknowledge them an independent country

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jimjam789 [#47]

they didnt specifically come 5th in champs, and that roster had pati, whilst dk roster has improved by twofold. guys using the fact that dk lost to ge when we can say dk beat prx lmaoooo.

Defetaed prx lost to GE,FS

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Hecking_Love_Tenz [#44]

Viewership should be accounted too
If you are bitter about just 1 SA's slot, then KR should bring consistent 20k+ viewership
Franchising is business after all

our average games bring 15k. that obviously increases with more popular teams

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Shashwat_Singh [#52]

Defetaed prx lost to GE,FS

no they 13-0ed GE and didnt verse FS once

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jimjam789 [#50]

GE is a well renowned and trusted org as well tho no? its not like a scummy org that ive heard SA pubg mobile orgs are

Yeah

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KoreanOverlord
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OzyMeister [#49]

never denied Korean players are good check #36 I'm talking about teams here besides DRX the rest are no better than t1 from APAC

yeah thats true

apart from DRX the teams are pretty equal

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KoreanOverlord [#33]

biggest fluke in history of valorant esports

I say this unironically with the upmost seriousness

I dont think its fluke ge beat drx in scrims, Ik scrims doesnt means shit but hate me or not there is some logic behind a region's/team overall gamestyle counters some other region/team, like latam/kru > br, eu > optic, sea>>>sa but yeah it just shows how good a team plays when looking at it and ge doesnt show the same in apac challengers

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jimjam789 [#53]

our average games bring 15k. that obviously increases with more popular teams

Then make another region for SA and OCE? what's your opinion?
The only solution is to divide APAC into 2 (South and North) but Riot apparently doesn't want to do that

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Shashwat_Singh
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KoreanOverlord [#48]

no shit

Bruh that makes no sense

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OzyMeister
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KoreanOverlord [#56]

yeah thats true

apart from DRX the teams are pretty equal

thats what Ive been saying the whole time

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TMosura [#9]

Let's hope the goddamn government stop the freeze then

Val has a higher chance with how big Tencent is, but it really takes a lot of time even with them supporting it. What is kinda interesting is that the mobile version of Valorant has already been released in China and the PC version not. Who knows how East LCQ plays out if isn't relreased in time, maybe JP and KR get another slot and play without the chinese teams.

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OzyMeister [#10]

I hope they make it APAC S(SEA+SA+OCE) and APAC N(KR+JP+CN)

Agree with this, similar to Apex.

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Shashwat_Singh
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jimjam789 [#54]

no they 13-0ed GE and didnt verse FS once

GE is/was shit plus if you think PRX was the best sea team in the tourney at that time damwon still lost to GE,FS tells alot about the competition of the region cause both these teams (GE,FS) are not even in lcq now

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KoreanOverlord
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OzyMeister [#60]

thats what Ive been saying the whole time

Kr besides DRX is tier 3 APAC mate he said tier 2

??

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jimjam789
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Shashwat_Singh [#63]

GE is/was shit plus if you think PRX was the best sea team in the tourney at that time damwon still lost to GE,FS tells alot about the competition of the region cause both these teams (GE,FS) are not even in lcq now

or maybe they just fell off lmao dont even act as if 2022 fs was the same as lcq fs. boom was also in 2021 lcq and they are in 2022 lcq as well. "tells alot about the competition of region" ok fine then cuz dk been losing to teams like holymoly and maru i guess that also "tells alot about the competition of region"

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jimjam789 [#40]

theres no physical capacity in which one looks at dk ons roster and goes 'damn ge is better on paper!' or watches the gameplays of both and goes 'damn GE is better coordinated and better strategically!'. but yeah they will probably get one due to GE huge viewership

i don't think viewership matters much for franchising. riot wants orgs that will be reliable for long term league.

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Shashwat_Singh
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jimjam789 [#65]

or maybe they just fell off lmao dont even act as if 2022 fs was the same as lcq fs. boom was also in 2021 lcq and they are in 2022 lcq as well. "tells alot about the competition of region" ok fine then cuz dk been losing to teams like holymoly and maru i guess that also "tells alot about the competition of region"

2022 FS is obviously better than the lcq FS they got rid of their weakest player and a far better one as for BOOM they changed half of their roster FS were always a top 5/6 team in apac and are now not even top 3 in their own country which means not top 20 in APAC (theoretically) this is how the competition is here as for KR the top 5/6 teams were same for both the seasons this year with just changes in their standings and also DRX didn’t even lost a single map this time around

Edit: Not saying KR teams are bad i am still expecting a KR team to win the LCQ (the new damwon mostly)

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Shashwat_Singh [#67]

2022 FS is obviously better than the lcq FS they got rid of their weakest player and a far better one as for BOOM they changed half of their roster FS were always a top 5/6 team in apac and are now not even top 3 in their own country which means not top 20 in APAC (theoretically) this is how the competition is here as for KR the top 5/6 teams were same for both the seasons this year with just changes in their standings and also DRX didn’t even lost a single map this time around

Edit: Not saying KR teams are bad i am still expecting a KR team to win the LCQ (the new damwon mostly)

drx would no lose a single round to any apac team either lol. maybe a few to prx. wow fs roster changed 1 boom changed half roster well guess what DK changed 4 members and each and every one of them was better than their lcq roster. 'prx wasnt the best sea team in the tourney' well thats cool cuz the best korean team outside of VS didnt even qualify for lcq

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Shashwat_Singh [#67]

2022 FS is obviously better than the lcq FS they got rid of their weakest player and a far better one as for BOOM they changed half of their roster FS were always a top 5/6 team in apac and are now not even top 3 in their own country which means not top 20 in APAC (theoretically) this is how the competition is here as for KR the top 5/6 teams were same for both the seasons this year with just changes in their standings and also DRX didn’t even lost a single map this time around

Edit: Not saying KR teams are bad i am still expecting a KR team to win the LCQ (the new damwon mostly)

cope we are 4-3 against sea excluding drx. you guys got better well so did we. meteor and joxjo farmed ur xerxia, and they arent even top 10 players from the region

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jimjam789 [#69]

cope we are 4-3 against sea excluding drx. you guys got better well so did we. meteor and joxjo farmed ur xerxia, and they arent even top 10 players from the region

So what exactly are you trying to say here ?

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SKara [#16]

Ik valulrant is not released in china but does it matters? I mean if we get franchising cant the chinese team shift outside china ofc it would'nt be as easy as I am saying but they could no?

Idk... just guessing it

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Shashwat_Singh [#70]

So what exactly are you trying to say here ?

if we talk strictly about duelists (since sea is renowned for having strong duelists) which other sea duelist is gonna farm surf thats not from prx. maybe 1 or 2. there are around 5 korean duelists that are better than meteor lol.

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KoreanOverlord [#64]

Kr besides DRX is tier 3 APAC mate he said tier 2

??

that was a bait

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