OCE is the APAC of APAC

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AntarcticOrca

OCE in APAC gets one big win --> inflated egos, will say they are masters slot competitor
APAC in LAN gets one big win --> inflated egos, will say they are world champion competitor

OCE IN APAC --> has inferiority complex against APAC teams (thinks everyone is looking down on them)
APAC IN LAN --> has inferiority complex against International teams (thinks everyone is saying theyre a shit minor region and is looking down on them)

OCE loses and Enemy trash talks --> Says theyre being racist and that they should respect the effort of going against big teams
APAC loses and Enemy trash talks --> Says theyre being racist and that they should respect the effort of going against big teams

OCE fans are annoying to APAC fans like APAC fans are annoying to the rest of the world

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Apac_jimmy doesn't represent the whole of apac

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AntarcticOrca

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Ofc, not saying every APAC fan is like that, sorry English isnt my first language

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JustHunter

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you really are making it seem that way especially with the fact that you havent made it clear that you dont mean everyone

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AntarcticOrca

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my bad, sorry

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APAC_Jimmy has W takes negl

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JustHunter

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This is a miracle considering how far away W and L are on the keyboard
Maybe hes using a phone from 2004 with a tiny lcd touchscreen

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Real AntarcticOrca? 0:

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Real Vineyard? 0:

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enri

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Who?

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Alovant

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While yes APAC fan indeed say they are world champion material, i would say ( while i am def reaching a bit ) it is somewhat justifiable, considering yes abit of recency bias. First off last champion we of course have the 2 teams that qualified from APAC in the top 8, even taking maps of some pretty big notable teams and even qualifying over Envy ( yes to those that say they were underperforming, maybe so but it was a really big team to win against back then )

Then we have master 1, with PRX run being stopped by basically their kryptonite, ZETA ( East Asian Teams with some really high mental strength ) finishing top 4, knocking out TGRD and G2 ( both 1st seed of NA and EU ). Again people will say they underperform, got a srsly fluke run etc etc, but a win is a win, a lose is a lose, no matter how cinderella-like or fluke-like a run is, they still qualify over other competitors from their region and esp TGRD was hyped to be this new sensation that would crush the international landscape.

Plus people did look down on apac with the minor region term, esp with people saying APAC should have atmost 1 slot becuz we are not as good etc, both after the DRX loss and before the master started, which is why when PRX won it became somewhat of a meme on VLR for abit.

Lastly OCE fans are all-round great people, just a select few who are really passionate about their region which im fine with cause like look at any region during international competition, the shit-talking and passion is crazily high. The only reason people find OCE fans ( select few no name dropping tho cuz i think most ppl know ) annoying is cause of how they brought other teams down esp one with some really big fanbase like PRX who have fans internationally and locally, so OCE got some hate for that and the BOOM lies aswell but i dont wanna dig deep into that cause thats their problem not mine

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While yes APAC fan indeed say they are world champion material, i would say ( while i am def reaching a bit ) it is somewhat justifiable, considering yes abit of recency bias. First off last champion we of course have the 2 teams that qualified from APAC in the top 8, even taking maps of some pretty big notable teams and even qualifying over Envy ( yes to those that say they were underperforming, maybe so but it was a really big team to win against back then )

Then we have master 1, with PRX run being stopped by basically their kryptonite, ZETA ( East Asian Teams with some really high mental strength ) finishing top 4, knocking out TGRD and G2 ( both 1st seed of NA and EU ). Again people will say they underperform, got a srsly fluke run etc etc, but a win is a win, a lose is a lose, no matter how cinderella-like or fluke-like a run is, they still qualify over other competitors from their region and esp TGRD was hyped to be this new sensation that would crush the international landscape.

Plus people did look down on apac with the minor region term, esp with people saying APAC should have atmost 1 slot becuz we are not as good etc, both after the DRX loss and before the master started, which is why when PRX won it became somewhat of a meme on VLR for abit.

Lastly OCE fans are all-round great people, just a select few who are really passionate about their region which im fine with cause like look at any region during international competition, the shit-talking and passion is crazily high. The only reason people find OCE fans ( select few no name dropping tho cuz i think most ppl know ) annoying is cause of how they brought other teams down esp one with some really big fanbase like PRX who have fans internationally and locally, so OCE got some hate for that and the BOOM lies aswell but i dont wanna dig deep into that cause thats their problem not mine

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AntarcticOrca

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turning a well thought out series of paragraphs and turning it into a copypasta is such a douche bag thing to do, the person who wrote this actually took his time to think about it and write it. This type of behavior is very disrespectful to the writer.

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Alovant

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well this is a first for me, considering i had wrote quite a few long essays / article regarding mainly APAC honestly ( yes im an avid APAC fan ) but while it is a bit douche-baggy, i personally dont mind it too much cuz it def is a bit biased but i just want to support my region lmao, thanks for your feedback tho! ;D

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oce in apac - irrelevant
apac in lan - irrelevant

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AntarcticOrca

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i wouldnt say so, APAC has a huge fanbase, but internationally sure, i guess not a lot of americans or europeans dont even know most apac orgs or teams and players, meanwhile in NA or EU players that havent played internationally are already being recognized or even regarded as top players

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except they are racist.

https://twitter.com/fl1pzjder/status/1538799741449867264

could've taken the dub with respect, but really? this is disgusting.

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AntarcticOrca

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not defending fl1p but thats just a fl1p thing to do, ive heard that he is one of the most toxic and disrespectful APAC players, and i agree the fish thing was very out of pocket

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Beyonder

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common flipz thing to do, never liked that guy tbh. The rest boom members just countered that copypasta, but flipz decides to add some racist comment.

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SnooTangerines

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fl1p does this to pretty much everyone.

He did it to Rossi and Pakistani players and he did it to you.

The only thing that gets him away is that he at least beats the teams he trash talks.

WRONSKI lies and trash talks but does not win.

Keep in mind not everyone in APAC is toxic/racist players like fl1p, noxxy make a very small part of the whole APAC scene.

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Cheasle2

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This is on a whole other level than what wronksi did, which was harmless banter and a throwaway comment on his stream.

This isnt even trash talk anymore, Fl1ps just an asshole.

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Hes the same level as maple

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hystorez

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How about maple?

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what did maple do?

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I will say this once again.

This is esports, if you win you can apparently get away with a lot more stuff than you might think.

If you lose, you are just garbo trash and your words are meaningless.

If someone does not feel comfortable with this, they should not be in esports as it is just an occupational hazard.

Things should not really be this way and I agree but unless Riot actually cares what fl1p does nothing will happen.

Maple is in the same (actually worse) league than fl1p cause fl1p does this maybe once in 3 months. Maple just grinded in SEA ranked for a couple of weeks and stirred more attention.

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YAYE

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there's nothing you can do about it since Indonesians ourselves won't cancel this guy or whatsoever since our racism threshold is not based on or the same as western's standards. in addition, most Indonesians will most likely call you out as being too sensitive for bringing this up.

it's fucked up I understand, but for Indonesians, it's just a common thing to do when we've just beaten trashtalking outsiders

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Cheasle2

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yeah i realise this, i guess its just a culture diff.
i'll just move on from it.

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33AJ

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What he said to rossi and pakistani players
Can u explain:D