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cobet

+braveaf
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lorenzopajaroFC

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Clear downgrade no matter who you replace, M3C’s current issues are with the player’s roles

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YouDii

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I agree, the only role that makes sense rn is nats.

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EternalXera

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What roles do u think they should play?

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lorenzopajaroFC

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If it was so simple that even I could know the answer they wouldn’t be suffering like this.

With that said, we could still theorize, what do you guys think about Nats back on the sentinel role+Viper and chamber (kinda like How Loud will be doing with Less now, using it for lurking)
Chronicle back on the Sova/Fade
Sheydos on the more aggressive initiators such as skye and kayo+sage in some maps
Redgar on smokes (wish he could stay back and micromanage the team more)
And D3ffo still on duelist I guess, although with how they use him to create space they should really be experimenting more with the neon

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patuj

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nah I don't think so. Braveaf is initiator player and they already have Redgar who is their IGL and Sheydos. Doesn't make sense to replace either one IMO.

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Glaciate05

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What if they replace Deffo and move Sheydos onto the duelist, Deffo hasn't top fragged for his team since the Groups Stage at Champions (before that it was July lol) and Sheydos has the skill and flexibility to fill his shoes. I do still like Deffo as a player, I just don't think he is comfortably in the conversation for top 10 duelists in the world and they need firepower on that level on the duelist to compete with the likes of Fnatic, FPX, LOUD and Optic.

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zardinez

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I don't think Sheydos would perform on agents like Jett and Chamber like he does on Sage, Skye, etc. I do agree deffo is probably the weakest link on the team, so naturally they should just get Derke to replace him. Ez switch totally gonna happen. More seriously tho, they do need someone on par with Yay/Derke/Aspas in order to really step it up a level.

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Valgod

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If they had to remove someone from the team it'd be deffo

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iMyw_

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Brain dead

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no_noise_979

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who would you remove then

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Olofboost

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https://www.vlr.gg/player/252/d3ffo/?timespan=90d

Look Jett and Raze stats
That's not what a duelist should perform like

Inb4 hundreds of excuses about how d3ffo "creates space"

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unknown_trash

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agreed. "making space" isnt good enough anymore, especially when you are against a really good team.

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xD1LL4N

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Stastic Steven. You clearly think dualists* are meant to hard carry because thats what tenz does etc.
His raze stats are similar to Victors.

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Olofboost

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Except Victor doesn't main raze, Victor is more of an initiator player... He can be allowed to underperform on an agent which is not his signature

d3ffo's signature agents are jett and raze, and you see those stats, it's unacceptable

I have nothing against d3ffo personally but I would've made a change already

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xD1LL4N

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if you couldn't tell, M3C doesn't need to rely on the duelist to hard carry to win the game. when you get a deeper understanding of the game, you will realise this.

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Olofboost

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Every team needs to rely on their duelist to be at least top-2/3 in scoreboard, what the fuck is your statement

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Olofboost

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"M3C doesn't need to rely on the duelist to hard carry" that's because they simply can't, not because they don't need to

I could be wrong but I feel like d3ffo just doesn't have the potential (aim skill for example) to get into bombsite and make 2-3 frags straight away

If M3C could get someone like trexx, purp0, whatever, they'd become more versatile and wouldn't be limited to one dimensional "duelist is not supposed to carry" playstyle

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no_noise_979

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https://www.vlr.gg/105559/potential-d3ffo-replacements

tell me what you think

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Olofboost

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From that list purp0 is best obviously
I think vo0kashu and chiwawa are too used to sentinels, they might not be that good on duelists

But if +trexx happened and M3C was bought out by some organization (without d3ffo), they'd come back to 1st position in the world

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xD1LL4N

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Guild aint selling trex ya dumbass

continue thread →

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xD1LL4N

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VLR rotted your brain, you clearly don't understand the strategic side of valorant.
Your gameplan is basically 'duelist' go kill.
Stay mad bozo

#22

Olofboost

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Ok
Have a nice day sir

At the end we're fans of same team and I just shared an opinion...

#26

Glaciate05

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the chamber role can be like that sometimes and I'd rather have duelist mains on the role so you have more comp diversity

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Glaciate05

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Right but Victor isn't on the duelist role alone... they have Yay on Jett/Chamber, the rest of the team is so flexible he isn't needed for his role

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ChrisPewPew

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and the best replacement would prolly be trexx or Shao but they would not be cheap and doubt guild and fpx would be willing to sell them , another option is something

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no_noise_979

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-d3ffo
+almost any tier2 russian player

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K2215

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duelist's main motive is to create space for their teams so that they can take site, fragging is the secondary nature. Like victor on neon for optic or corey for tsm or even liquid's duelist they don't frag much but they create space. I feel like the other players can control the round after the space is taken