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ASIA-PACIFIC REGIONAL DEBATE

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#1
senjuicer12

VAL = JP>SEA>KR>SA(SOUTHASIA)>>OCE> CN(CHINA)?
LOL = KR=CN>>>SEA(VN,TW)>JP>OCE>>>>>>>>>SA(SOUTHASIA)
CSGO = ?
DOTA = CN>>SEA(PH,MY,SG)>>>>>>>>>>>>>KR>JP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SA(SOUTHASIA)>OCE

as of 05/2022

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DRX beat PRX and went 1-1 with ZETA, who also beat PRX, so it seems more like JP=KR>SEA?

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DRX beat PRX and went 1-1 with ZETA, who also beat PRX, so it seems more like JP=KR>SEA?

Zeta beat liquid
JP>Kr

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CSGO is so dead in APAC to the point that Mongolia is dominating the scene

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enri [#3]

Zeta beat liquid
JP>Kr

Liquid didn't even play vs DRX...? Also this is a Regional debate...

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overall SEA > KR > JP. but best team JP (Zeta) > KR (DRX) > SEA (PRX). also OCE >> SA

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CSGO is so dead in APAC to the point that Mongolia is dominating the scene

its a dead game for boomers

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archetype [#5]

Liquid didn't even play vs DRX...? Also this is a Regional debate...

But they are better than DRX

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enri [#8]

But they are better than DRX

Well the first time Zeta met DRX they got 5 rounds and 2-0'ed, the second time it was a close win with an 11-13 first map. So I don't think it's fair to say they are better because in the end they are 1-1 against each other.

Unless you're saying Liquid is better than DRX, which is completely unproven because the two have never played each other, and it doesn't even make sense because it's a regional debate..

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respect ++
cz u wrote SA in LoL
LMFAO

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sweetdreams11 [#10]

respect ++
cz u wrote SA in LoL
LMFAO

SA is one of the biggest and emerging esports in asia beside CN(CHINA)

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senjuicer12 [#11]

SA is one of the biggest and emerging esports in asia beside CN(CHINA)

who tf said?

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senjuicer12 [#11]

SA is one of the biggest and emerging esports in asia beside CN(CHINA)

one day i will watch an indian dude explain the concepts of MOBAs and Tac FPS with a shitty mic on youtube, just like in math and coding

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one day i will watch an indian dude explain the concepts of MOBAs and Tac FPS with a shitty mic on youtube, just like in math and coding

lol copium

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sweetdreams11 [#12]

who tf said?

i mean south asia is one of the promising emerging esports in asia, because of its population equal with china

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one day i will watch an indian dude explain the concepts of MOBAs and Tac FPS with a shitty mic on youtube, just like in math and coding

Don't disrespect my Indian guys, I would not have survived my CS major without them.

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senjuicer12 [#15]

i mean south asia is one of the promising emerging esports in asia, because of its population equal with china

there are still lot of ppl who think that gaming/esports is for those who cant get jobs/study

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sweetdreams11 [#14]

lol copium

depends on whether india keeps producing players like Forsaken, who cheat. i still feel bad for the indian cs community cuz of that.

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simurgh [#16]

Don't disrespect my Indian guys, I would not have survived my CS major without them.

no disrespect at all my dude. they helped me out as well.

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sweetdreams11 [#17]

there are still lot of ppl who think that gaming/esports is for those who cant get jobs/study

nah maybe they'll change their minds bro and open their hearts on esports

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sweetdreams11 [#17]

there are still lot of ppl who think that gaming/esports is for those who cant get jobs/study

Asian in general

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one day i will watch an indian dude explain the concepts of MOBAs and Tac FPS with a shitty mic on youtube, just like in math and coding

That Indian youtube guy are my CS Professor

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senjuicer12 [#11]

SA is one of the biggest and emerging esports in asia beside CN(CHINA)

Esports mobile yes.

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wtf did i just see?

#25
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man said kr=cn in LoL

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enri [#8]

But they are better than DRX

lmao good joke

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mofoko high as shit

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KoreanOverlord [#27]

mofoko high as shit

true AF

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Fr1tZ [#6]

overall SEA > KR > JP. but best team JP (Zeta) > KR (DRX) > SEA (PRX). also OCE >> SA

bruh SEA a whole bunch of countries just put KR > Thailand > Japan > Singapore > Malaysia > PH > Australia > India > Taiwan > Bangladesh > China+HK

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KoreanOverlord [#29]

bruh SEA a whole bunch of countries just put KR > Thailand > Japan > Singapore > Malaysia > PH > Australia > India > Taiwan > Bangladesh > China+HK

Mf really put Bangladesh above china and hong kong 💀💀💀

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DeluluGavin [#26]

lmao good joke

Every tourney there is hype for Korean teams but at middle they get clapped out of tourney.
Circular life

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depends on whether india keeps producing players like Forsaken, who cheat. i still feel bad for the indian cs community cuz of that.

its sad to see an entire region being looked down upon due to one idiot, people speak as if only forsaken cheated, forsaken was just a bigger idiot than the other cheaters thats all, even some 'pro' players now have cheated in the past when they were in lower ranks/were no namers

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Nuturn with Lakia >>>>>>>>> than whole APAC

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enri [#31]

Every tourney there is hype for Korean teams but at middle they get clapped out of tourney.
Circular life

thats the same for every team if they don't win. plus I'm saying good joke because you literally put in TL for comparison, and said JP>KR so like idk man you do you.

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japan is not good. they are a bigger 1 team region than kr

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Fr1tZ [#6]

overall SEA > KR > JP. but best team JP (Zeta) > KR (DRX) > SEA (PRX). also OCE >> SA

Agree with this

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In League, its CN > KR.
Its close but CN has better depth while KR is more top heavy. Top 8 in CN can beat each other while in KR its top 4-5 besides T1

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Nisham [#37]

In League, its CN > KR.
Its close but CN has better depth while KR is more top heavy. Top 8 in CN can beat each other while in KR its top 4-5 besides T1

compare world titles

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sweetdreams11 [#38]

compare world titles

to be fair china has won more recent titles, tho thats largely to do with the koreans on the chinese teams

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sweetdreams11 [#38]

compare world titles

China was won the last 3 out of 4. And the last 2 out of 3 MSI
Both stats from after 2018.
China is just better and performs better in worlds and finals.

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Nisham [#40]

China was won the last 3 out of 4. And the last 2 out of 3 MSI
Both stats from after 2018.
China is just better and performs better in worlds and finals.

Chinese teams have korean players in them while korean teams do not have chinese players.

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Nisham [#40]

China was won the last 3 out of 4. And the last 2 out of 3 MSI
Both stats from after 2018.
China is just better and performs better in worlds and finals.

kr better...cant win without korean carry players

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Nisham [#37]

In League, its CN > KR.
Its close but CN has better depth while KR is more top heavy. Top 8 in CN can beat each other while in KR its top 4-5 besides T1

every chinese team that won worlds had at least 2 korean players who also arguably happened to be their star players
iG: Theshy, Rookie
FPX: Gimgoon, Doinb
EDG: Scout, Viper

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Jwpp33 [#41]

Chinese teams have korean players in them while korean teams do not have chinese players.

RNG has no korean players and has won 2 of l;ast MSI tho?
And when in finals its the Chinese junglers that carry. (Tian in FPX, JieJie in EDG) Only exception is The Shy in 2018.

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Nisham [#40]

China was won the last 3 out of 4. And the last 2 out of 3 MSI
Both stats from after 2018.
China is just better and performs better in worlds and finals.

LPL without Kr imports can barely win anything tho

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Nisham [#44]

RNG has no korean players and has won 2 of l;ast MSI tho?
And when in finals its the Chinese junglers that carry. (Tian in FPX, JieJie in EDG) Only exception is The Shy in 2018.

kr>>>.

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every chinese team that won worlds had at least 2 korean players who also arguably happened to be their star players
iG: Theshy, Rookie
FPX: Gimgoon, Doinb
EDG: Scout, Viper

Doinb was freakin scary

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every chinese team that won worlds had at least 2 korean players who also arguably happened to be their star players
iG: Theshy, Rookie
FPX: Gimgoon, Doinb
EDG: Scout, Viper

But in Finals the Chinese players are the ones who carry tho. JieJie in EDG (Man stole every baron and jungle gapped Canyon). Tian and LWX (Tian was everywhere, LWX went deathless, Doinb was crazy tho)

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Nisham [#44]

RNG has no korean players and has won 2 of l;ast MSI tho?
And when in finals its the Chinese junglers that carry. (Tian in FPX, JieJie in EDG) Only exception is The Shy in 2018.

without KR players i doubt they could have gone to the final so...

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Nisham [#44]

RNG has no korean players and has won 2 of l;ast MSI tho?
And when in finals its the Chinese junglers that carry. (Tian in FPX, JieJie in EDG) Only exception is The Shy in 2018.

Yeah, but your argument was that China has better depth in their teams. And the fact that Chinese teams have Korean players in it really shows how impactful they are. Remember it's a team game

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Nisham [#44]

RNG has no korean players and has won 2 of l;ast MSI tho?
And when in finals its the Chinese junglers that carry. (Tian in FPX, JieJie in EDG) Only exception is The Shy in 2018.

no ur flat our wrong lol. jiejie was only impactful in the games they won not the series throughout and fpx literally had doinb. the fact remains that every chinese worlds winner had their carry players which were korean; theshy rookie doinb viper scout

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Nisham [#48]

But in Finals the Chinese players are the ones who carry tho. JieJie in EDG (Man stole every baron and jungle gapped Canyon). Tian and LWX (Tian was everywhere, LWX went deathless, Doinb was crazy tho)

inorder to play in finals they need kr players lol

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japan with one fluke 3rd place tourney, "they are better thank kr/sea" OMEGALUL

#54
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sweetdreams11 [#42]

kr better...cant win without korean carry players

Weird how Tian carried FPX in finals tho
Same with Jie Jie.
The game Jie Jie was prioritized EDG won.
And in the EDG doc JieJie asks for the team to give him the resources, and when they did they won.

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Nisham [#54]

Weird how Tian carried FPX in finals tho
Same with Jie Jie.
The game Jie Jie was prioritized EDG won.
And in the EDG doc JieJie asks for the team to give him the resources, and when they did they won.

kr>>

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sweetdreams11 [#52]

inorder to play in finals they need kr players lol

Yea but LPL still better, Scout grew in LPL. Same with Doinb, his career was made in LPL
They play like LPL, not like lCK

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everyone rated that APAC below KR and JP because 1 fluke run is full cope
APAC is more consistent and bigger scene that one team region

and no, this is not flag bias

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Nisham [#56]

Yea but LPL still better, Scout grew in LPL. Same with Doinb, his career was made in LPL
They play like LPL, not like lCK

The only reason they grew in LPL was because Chinese teams simply paid more than Korean teams. They are still Korean players.

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jimjam789 [#51]

no ur flat our wrong lol. jiejie was only impactful in the games they won not the series throughout and fpx literally had doinb. the fact remains that every chinese worlds winner had their carry players which were korean; theshy rookie doinb viper scout

Scout was korean but his career was made in the LPL. IN THE CHINA REGION. LPL >>>>>>>>
HE has the LPL style, he only through acad in LCK, and his pro career was made in the LPL
LCK didn't give him the chance to prove himself, LPL did

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tonyhart7 [#57]

everyone rated that APAC below KR and JP because 1 fluke run is full cope
APAC is more consistent and bigger scene that one team region

and no, this is not flag bias

They are consistently performing worse than KR and JP's "fluke" runs though

#61
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Jwpp33 [#58]

The only reason they grew in LPL was because Chinese teams simply paid more than Korean teams. They are still Korean players.

Their careers were made in LPL. Im not saying their nationality lol. Their league, Their league is LPL and LPL is the best.
Scout wouldve made it to any LCK team but he wanted starting spot and LPL gave him that. LPL grows the korean talent and the talents paly the LPL style, not the LCK style or game

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Nisham [#61]

Their careers were made in LPL. Im not saying their nationality lol. Their league, Their league is LPL and LPL is the best.
Scout wouldve made it to any LCK team but he wanted starting spot and LPL gave him that. LPL grows the korean talent and the talents paly the LPL style, not the LCK style or game

kkkkkkkkkkkk

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Nisham [#59]

Scout was korean but his career was made in the LPL. IN THE CHINA REGION. LPL >>>>>>>>
HE has the LPL style, he only through acad in LCK, and his pro career was made in the LPL
LCK didn't give him the chance to prove himself, LPL did

are you slow? theres a reason they were got scouted. they were born and trained in korea, its not like they started playing LoL in china. its almost as if he had to adapt to the region and teams he was playing with and against LMAO.

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Nisham [#61]

Their careers were made in LPL. Im not saying their nationality lol. Their league, Their league is LPL and LPL is the best.
Scout wouldve made it to any LCK team but he wanted starting spot and LPL gave him that. LPL grows the korean talent and the talents paly the LPL style, not the LCK style or game

Do you really think Scout became a great player solely because he played in LPL? He had his talent and potential as a basis, he would've succeeded in LCK as well. You can't say LPL>LCK when it's flooded with Koreans players.

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Jwpp33 [#60]

They are consistently performing worse than KR and JP's "fluke" runs though

and you are latam with extra step

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Fyujin [#53]

japan with one fluke 3rd place tourney, "they are better thank kr/sea" OMEGALUL

Did SEA have any good runs in global competitions though? The best performance I can recall is PRX's run last masters.

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tonyhart7 [#65]

and you are latam with extra step

Based on results, when did SEA consistently perform better than KR and JP?

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Jwpp33 [#67]

Based on results, when did SEA consistently perform better than KR and JP?

LAST CHAMPIONS HELLO?

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Jwpp33 [#67]

Based on results, when did SEA consistently perform better than KR and JP?

every team SEA send consistently enter top 10 lmao

while Vision striker eliminated in group stage

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senjuicer12 [#20]

nah maybe they'll change their minds bro and open their hearts on esports

an asian mum's slippers will hit you faster than you can open their hearts

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Dart_Leo [#70]

an asian mum's slippers will hit you faster than you can open their hearts

true

#72
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Jwpp33 [#67]

Based on results, when did SEA consistently perform better than KR and JP?

X10C AND TS AT PLAYOFFS WHILE KR AND JP ARE OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT

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CSGO is so dead in APAC to the point that Mongolia is dominating the scene

CSGO is dead everywhere except for BR and EU

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tonyhart7 [#69]

every team SEA send consistently enter top 10 lmao

while Vision striker eliminated in group stage

Xerxia was eliminated in group stage last masters. DRX got out of groups in every events except for last champions

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Jwpp33 [#74]

Xerxia was eliminated in group stage last masters. DRX got out of groups in every events except for last champions

xerxia eliminated because its a optic the winner master 1, if its other team like easier group a like jp or sea

pretty sure they will send them home

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JP=SEA=KR

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tonyhart7 [#75]

xerxia eliminated because its a optic the winner master 1, if its other team like easier group a like jp or sea

pretty sure they will send them home

w

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senjuicer12 [#72]

X10C AND TS AT PLAYOFFS WHILE KR AND JP ARE OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT

But we're talking about consistency, right? Masters 3 PRX was eliminated in group stage, and last masters DRX and ZETA arguably performed better than SEA teams.

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Jwpp33 [#78]

But we're talking about consistency, right? Masters 3 PRX was eliminated in group stage, and last masters DRX and ZETA arguably performed better than SEA teams.

educate me, when did SEA not in playoffs?

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tonyhart7 [#75]

xerxia eliminated because its a optic the winner master 1, if its other team like easier group a like jp or sea

pretty sure they will send them home

They lost to TL though

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senjuicer12 [#79]

educate me, when did SEA not in playoffs?

Masters 3, and they performed worse than KR and JP in last masters.

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Jwpp33 [#81]

Masters 3, and they performed worse than KR and JP in last masters.

who were the teams?

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who were the teams?

PRX lost to both DRX and ZETA last masters, and PRX lost to DRX in group stage in masters 3. The only event when SEA performed better than KR and JP was in champions.

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who were the teams?

PRX, and only PRX. Bren (now Secret) were supposed to qualify for the event but visas were hard to acquire.

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csgo probably china/mongolia cause i think they're the only region still playing the game lol

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Jwpp33 [#83]

PRX lost to both DRX and ZETA last masters, and PRX lost to DRX in group stage in masters 3. The only event when SEA performed better than KR and JP was in champions.

oh the time that TS(BREN ESPORTS) can't travel due to visa problems, i see. that's the reason why SEA is inconsistent

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senjuicer12 [#86]

oh the time that TS(BREN ESPORTS) can't travel due to visa problems, i see. that's the reason why SEA is inconsistent

You asked me when SEA didn't qualify in playoffs, and I gave you the answer. PRX also didn't make it to playoffs btw. Based on results JP and KR performed better than SEA.

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Jwpp33 [#87]

You asked me when SEA didn't qualify in playoffs, and I gave you the answer. PRX also didn't make it to playoffs btw. Based on results JP and KR performed better than SEA.

yeah but as of know JP>SEA>KR

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Hmm

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senjuicer12 [#88]

yeah but as of know JP>SEA>KR

How is SEA>KR? I just want to know your opinion behind it

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On Valorant, if based on aim China must be better from SA and OCE at least.
For CSGO China teams was better than any APAC teams i think.

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Jwpp33 [#90]

How is SEA>KR? I just want to know your opinion behind it

as of this month SEA>KR

4th:PRX(SEA)
5th:DRX(KR)

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On Valorant, if based on aim China must be better from SA and OCE at least.
For CSGO China teams was better than any APAC teams i think.

China's aim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asia (XIA Foxz)

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Nisham [#61]

Their careers were made in LPL. Im not saying their nationality lol. Their league, Their league is LPL and LPL is the best.
Scout wouldve made it to any LCK team but he wanted starting spot and LPL gave him that. LPL grows the korean talent and the talents paly the LPL style, not the LCK style or game

Scout was literally the second midlaner for SKT T1 while faker was in his prime lmao?

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senjuicer12 [#92]

as of this month SEA>KR

4th:PRX(SEA)
5th:DRX(KR)

Wait, what? DRX eliminated PRX in playoffs and the only reason PRX was placed higher than DRX was because DRX faced Optic, the eventual winners of the event. Same logic behind why you said xerxia couldn't make out of groups.

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simurgh [#93]

China's aim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asia (XIA Foxz)

yeahh many pro players said if based on aim they're so good, but braindead just run and shoot without strat hahahaha

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Jwpp33 [#95]

Wait, what? DRX eliminated PRX in playoffs and the only reason PRX was placed higher than DRX was because DRX faced Optic, the eventual winners of the event. Same logic behind why you said xerxia couldn't make out of groups.

oh i see, sorry wwww but still JP>SEA=KR.

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oh i see, sorry wwww but still JP>SEA=KR.

so why is JP>KR when KR has only ever lost to a JP team once, and also beat that same team earlier in the tourney in a dominant fashion?

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Dart_Leo [#70]

an asian mum's slippers will hit you faster than you can open their hearts

haha

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no bias KR>SEA=JP... From past history JP never placed higher than SEA (in master and champion) except last master and although you guy said that PRX lost to JP team twice, X10(XIA) and TS also beat CR, the best JP team at that time so I don't think the skill gap between SEA and JP are too far. For Korea, we need to accept that they beat SEA and JP so many time although FS beat NU and DWG during LCQ but other SEA teams lost to Korea. Therefore, in overall I think Korea still the strongest but the skill gap not that large anymore. Hopefully, next year we will see more match between SEA,KR and JP more, it gonna be fun:)

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KoreanOverlord [#29]

bruh SEA a whole bunch of countries just put KR > Thailand > Japan > Singapore > Malaysia > PH > Australia > India > Taiwan > Bangladesh > China+HK

What happened to Indonesia

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Did SEA have any good runs in global competitions though? The best performance I can recall is PRX's run last masters.

Valorant is a new game ya.

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everyone rated that APAC below KR and JP because 1 fluke run is full cope
APAC is more consistent and bigger scene that one team region

and no, this is not flag bias

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Xerxia was eliminated in group stage last masters. DRX got out of groups in every events except for last champions

Patiphan aint here in the Valorant scene ya. The real monster playing overwatch for $$$

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Valorant is a new game ya.

and your point is?

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Jwpp33 [#66]

Did SEA have any good runs in global competitions though? The best performance I can recall is PRX's run last masters.

how about nuturn's 3rd placing on first masters to disprove your point? putting jp>kr is a joke

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LOL AVERAGE MAD CHINESE SINGAPOREAN KID, WHY U SO MAD BRO???? DID I STRIKE A NERVE???? IT'S OKAY TO BE MAD BRO HAHAHHAA

chinnese owns ur country bitch

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how about nuturn's 3rd placing on first masters to disprove your point? putting jp>kr is a joke

What point are you disproving? I never said JP>KR? in fact it should be KR>JP

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and your point is?

Instead of saying which teams are better based on their best global achievement rankings, I think its also imperative to analyze each teams' roster changes, reshuffles or any individuals that stands out or came back from hiatus.

For example, the current Zeta Divisions are comprised of Japans top players from different Esports teams:
Sugarzero aand TENNN from Northception til (Dec 2021),
Depp from Team Reject (til Dec 2021) with the remaining 3 members moving forward from Absolute Jupiter.

DRX, K1ng who went inactive since Dec 2021.

Xerxia, with Patiphan who left the Valorant scene to Overwatch with higher renumerations, ultimately replaced by Surf.

PRX with their member Shiba replaced by Jinggg.

Bleed roster swapping out FirstLove and Flaring for Pyth and Maxie from Sweden.

As more agents get introduce and meta changes over time, there might be a change in team/role compositions, acquiring players from other regions or Esports and even influx of newer players joining the scene from CSGO or Overwatch. The game is fairly young but dynamic. Since its advent in 2020, its has only been slightly more than 1 year in, so I think its hard to say which region is better than which region now.

*ps i freaking love Mako's gunplay from DRX. 10/10

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Instead of saying which teams are better based on their best global achievement rankings, I think its also imperative to analyze each teams' roster changes, reshuffles or any individuals that stands out or came back from hiatus.

For example, the current Zeta Divisions are comprised of Japans top players from different Esports teams:
Sugarzero aand TENNN from Northception til (Dec 2021),
Depp from Team Reject (til Dec 2021) with the remaining 3 members moving forward from Absolute Jupiter.

DRX, K1ng who went inactive since Dec 2021.

Xerxia, with Patiphan who left the Valorant scene to Overwatch with higher renumerations, ultimately replaced by Surf.

PRX with their member Shiba replaced by Jinggg.

Bleed roster swapping out FirstLove and Flaring for Pyth and Maxie from Sweden.

As more agents get introduce and meta changes over time, there might be a change in team/role compositions, acquiring players from other regions or Esports and even influx of newer players joining the scene from CSGO or Overwatch. The game is fairly young but dynamic. Since its advent in 2020, its has only been slightly more than 1 year in, so I think its hard to say which region is better than which region now.

*ps i freaking love Mako's gunplay from DRX. 10/10

Right. I agree with the points you've made about the fast-paced meta changes and the competitive scene being only a year old. But adapting to the meta, including the roster changes you've mentioned and changes in team compositions, contributes to the team's overall skill level and this is evident in their global event results. Because at the end of the day, what decides a winner and a loser is the result itself, not the process.

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tonyhart7 [#109]

chinnese owns ur country bitch

LOLLLLL GONNA CRY? GONNA PISS UR PANTS? MAYBE EVEN CUM??? WHY SO MAD KID KEKWKEKW

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LOLLLLL GONNA CRY? GONNA PISS UR PANTS? MAYBE EVEN CUM??? WHY SO MAD KID KEKWKEKW

kekw change flag, insecure about ur country ?

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its sad to see an entire region being looked down upon due to one idiot, people speak as if only forsaken cheated, forsaken was just a bigger idiot than the other cheaters thats all, even some 'pro' players now have cheated in the past when they were in lower ranks/were no namers

ayo gotta give forsaken credit for having huge balls to do it on LAN.

But yeah, one region being mocked for a single cheater, despite other regions have pros being banned. Hell, atleast Forsaken lost his career. In NA you just swap games and you're all good to go.

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Zeta had one cinderella run and now all of a sudden Japan is the best region? Even better than Korea? No way dude, just because Zeta may be the best team in Asia and has the best result doesn't mean the whole region is at their level. Zeta did not play as well as they played in Reykjavik locally and were still way better than everyone else in Japan. Japan was a one-team region even before Zeta became elite the rest of the region has not shown that they are nearly as good. Now that Zeta is elite, they can definitely catch up, but you can not say the rest are as good because Zeta improved outside of the region. Both Korea and SEA have had better results and have sent more great teams internationally.

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tonyhart7 [#114]

kekw change flag, insecure about ur country ?

KEKW SO CARING OF ME TOU, TY FOR CARING AND LOOKING OUT FOR ME CHINESE SINGAPOREAN KID OMEGALUL

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