I agree with you overall but this point is so degrading...

they have had the same core for ages lmao

boaster or redgar as IGL. FNS makes too many mistakes under pressure otherwise he would be up there.
there's not really an only "opper" role in this game tbh, its either you play jett and learn that playstyle (which is far more than opping) or you only play chamber which is probably the closest but not viable on every map.

lowkey just for jett entries I would honestly get tenz as I think for executes he still has the best movement and reactions, even if I have serious reservations about the rest of his play....

if you asked me at the beginning of 2021 I would've said zombs for smokes, now I don't really know. probably nats...

Anecdotal doesn't mean it's not xenophobic lol...

but they weren't changing their roster every 2 months lol

Wait? Issax again?

100T's roster mentality hurts me. I'd be surprised if they get anywhere.

They have the right ideas, but they do make just really stupid pressured mistakes that even golds would know not to do. FNS is a good igl ofc yes. But they didn't make many in this game. Though watching them get thriftied on haven against xerxia was honestly so irritating.....

I literally was supporting OPTIC to win lol, admittedly I didn't think they were going to for the above reasons

ah yes, the human nature argument again. Yeah totally, compare us to tribal people. This is the 21st century, we are civilised. This analogy makes no sense.

Being selfish is part of human nature, does that mean we should be? Wait, I probably shouldn't let you answer that one.

They're a good team but they make a shitton of mistakes its unreal. Also hearing their comms it doesn't sound the best mental environment to be in, probably explaining these mistakes.

What is it with these people who think as soon as a team loses, it's time to change a player? Liquid destroyed everyone in group stage, but apparently after two losses now is the time to change a player?

Changing rosters shouldn't be a common thing, it should be a last resort. The reason for super teams such as Gambit/M3C, Sentinels (with their initial dominance of the scene, evidently now its a very different picture) and The Guard doing so well is because of their synergy and how well they play together. This isn't achievable by switching every player every time a team loses a game, like you have them would.

The reason for G2 doing so badly after Masters 3 berlin was because of their constant subbing and roster changes with keloqz, koldamenta, mixwell etc, meaning the team never got a chance to play properly together enough, now they've stopped look where they are now.

Liquid don't need to replace anybody.

I know the meaning of anecdotal and it isn't so lol. I literally just explained how it isn't.

How's it anecdotal? Yes its fine if you said that "one british guy", but you're basically saying that its mostly British people who were being toxic/whatever. That isn't the same. Again, imagine if I said that about black people, I would be rightly called out.

Again, you just showed xenophobia, being toxic or rude doesn't have anything to do with being British. Let's try this: "Black people are mostly but not always rude". Again, that has nothing to do with britishness. These people are two out of how many people playing badly? That's not a "recurring trend" lmao.

Exactly, they just happen to be Brits, so whats the need of bringing it up? Its an unrelated property to their performance.

That doesn't mean its not a hard agent to learn?

The xenophobia is by finding "britishness" as a common characteristic for players playing badly lmao. Its nothing to do with being British. If Jampii was playing badly you wouldn't blame his Finnish identity.

Oh right, mb

No he just didn't reply to any of my points... which seemingly you are incapable of as well

Ah yes, you sound incredibly clever. How could anyone disagree with such a compelling argument? But then again, stupidity leads to careless generalisations and borderline xenophobia like this so I shouldn't be surprised.

why would you need to remove two players to get an IGL? I agree with you but eventually one of them will learn how to do it

Yes it's totally to do with the fact they're british not themselves or any other bit. As an english person, I guarantee you I know more pro play in this game than you. Stop making these careless generalisations and believing that the entire success of a team can be altered by changing one person. It so obviously isn't, but you can't understand because as previously mentioned you understand nothing that happens in pro play.

Team alterations are undeniably what caused the downfall of an incredible amount of NA rosters in Valorant and many French rosters in CS, but you don't care as all you see is who kills who rather than team synergy and strategy.

2 braindead posts I've read in a row from this guy. is this normal?

Indeed it was

Well it does make sense in the way that different regions produce different play styles. Paper Rex are more than enough proof of that. But yeah you’re right in the sense that one should not disqualify any region just because of a specific team.

I didn’t think otherwise but on ZETA’s pick and G2s worst map obviously it’s not gonna be amazing for G2? And they still win anyway?

Yes you said that already but that’s not what I asked for, if you can make a clip comparison it would be far more compelling rather than “caster bias!!!! they reacted differently to different plays!!!!”

Liquid were never supposed to be here yet beat everyone in groups

G2 didn’t struggle, they 2-0d them?

FNC had two subs

And the best team from EU isn’t even at the tournament (FPX)

There’s no “falling off” it’s just insanely unlucky with the timing.

No I really haven’t. I’ve always felt casters are decent in keeping neutrality… Can you give me a specific example clipped? Probably not…

So you want casters to say the same thing in the same voice for every play? This is getting ridiculous…. There’s no important distinction here whatsoever

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Perhaps they also had the same thing happen to them by Liquid the other day too on Split, I still think fracture is a very strange choice. Breeze, icebox, ascent? All maps that optic don’t look great on atm.

Their comp displayed a complete lack of adjustment to the new meta though

Ah yes, “frags mean everything” line. There’s no other reason for FNATIC to be playing badly, they have LAN experience, brilliant strategy and usually dominate. If it was once you may be right, but this is evident at this point. If you think otherwise, you clearly haven’t watched many regular FNC games lol.

I don’t remember blaming them? I don’t expect them to play any better - they’re tier two players, it would be ridiculous to. Stop straw manning me. They are playing horribly as a team, that’s my whole point… the cohesion is not there because they have two new players , let alone ones that aren’t used to playing at this level especially on LAN

I would really like to see OpTiC beat XERXIA as they seriously improved their Ascent today and made nowhere near the amount of mistakes. That said it would be nice to see XERSIA through. I think it could really go either way, though if OpTic wins it will really bring back a lot of the NA hopium…
It is annoying for XERXIA though as rematching is always harder and they really are good

Even then they weren’t nowhere near on EU’s level. Of course they aren’t bad teams but apart from Chamber, NA really hasn’t developed much.

How could they not be destroyed? What other teams do you know who have actually managed this, with two tier 2 subs with minimal practice time?

Yeah, didn’t they let games in Champions happen remotely regardless of covid? If Derke is well enough to play then I don’t get what the difference is.

They aren’t bad teams ofc but given any other situation they would not win. It’s literally like playing semi professionals or a start up team that has just a lot of brain power - not that bad when you’re a tier one team.

Not gonna lie I don’t think you know what you’re talking about lol. If you actually watch the game you can tell their cohesion is shit as they are losing easy af anti-eco rounds. Everyone knows Japan is a very weak region.

They were so good before the tournament, they have LAN experience. They are renowned for their international performance and you can’t really get “upset” or “fluked” on twice in a row. Anyone who has watched multiple of their games before and has the slightest bit of common sense can tell it’s because of them having subs, to practice with in 9 days who have no real tier 1 experience (they’re not necessarily bad players even).

but not in pro play… I’m talking about comps necessarily I’m mainly talking the meta play style

It’s not just that they didn’t have Derke but more the fact they had such a short space of time to prepare and practice. FNC have played with each other since SUMN FC, so for like 2 years… It’s so hard to replicate the team synergy and timings with not one but two standins in less than a month.

He’s been away from pro play for so long.. there have literally been two new metas since he played (which was back during the Phoenix on haven and NA best region days). Watch any 2020, early 2021 Sentinels game and it’s so clear that it’s gonna take a lot for him to get back into it.

Yeah but that doesn’t mean they’re stupid lol

After watching EMEA games and going to watch the NA ones during quals it’s so obvious which region is more advanced. NA is stuck with single role players whilst the rest of the world experiments. The only new, viable thing to come out of NA recently was the raze haven comp and we all saw how well that went… The amount of mistakes and lack of coordination optic and the rest of the teams have (apart from maybe the guard) is just shocking..

They probably meant in terms of the amount of people who play the game from those regions